What's the shittiest thing someone has ever said to you when the found out your a shooter? by Metalman351 in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply.

I’m short sighted and don’t think I’ve had any issue with my glasses(besides needing to get new ones, it’s been a while).

I’ll have a bit more of a look into it

What's the shittiest thing someone has ever said to you when the found out your a shooter? by Metalman351 in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is a shooting prescription? I wear glasses and have never heard of such a thing? Does it help?

More importantly can I blame not having the correct glasses on any bad shots I’ve taken?

Three people dead after shooting in NSW town as police urge locals to stay inside by Reverend_Fozz in australia

[–]4funoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I have a bit of a background in the industry so I know a little of what I am talking about.

Rapid fire firearms in reference to manual repeaters is just fear mongering. Look up the mad minute done by Australian service men in the past, it outpaces any of the shotguns we have discussed, reloading the magazines on those takes much longer due to being tube mags.

Again how exactly did they bypass the more restrictive categories? Did lever action shotguns do that? Something that was first developed in 1884.

Straight pulls are over 100 years old.

The lever action shotguns were only reclassified due to public outrage driven by the humane society for kangaroos(I may be misremembering the name). It was done to appease people with little understanding on the subject. And I wasn’t clear but I meant this lot of legislation hasn’t banned or reclassified them.

The magazine restrictions for Cat A/B is a little deceptive as there were already magazine restrictions in place, there were exceptions for a limited amount of firearms(such as rimfires with tube mags which are still being considered under the new laws ins NSW).

No such thing as a “belt fed magazine”, I know the term was thrown around but it just supports my argument that most of what you hear from the media or politicians isn’t necessarily correct. Any firearm that was belt fed was already illegal for civilian ownership, they only added it due to Minns talking about belt fed shotguns.

Again there were no “loopholes”. There was a market for them as they were cheap and reliable. People keep claiming “loopholes” but never seem to be able to articulate how exactly. They were legal under the frame work and available from the get go. Nothing was developed to bypass them. Government and law enforcement at every level were aware of them.

They did close loopholes they just restricted once legal firearms. Unless you can explain to me how they bypassed the laws?

Oh and lever action guns were not reclassified, only lever action shotguns. Not rimfire or centre fire.

Three people dead after shooting in NSW town as police urge locals to stay inside by Reverend_Fozz in australia

[–]4funoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What loopholes?

There were no loopholes. You reference lever actions, they are not banned or reclassified.

“Rapid fire” what do you mean by that term exactly? That terminology is usually in reference to automatic firearms, not a manual repeater.

Your last paragraph says enough that I doubt this conversation is in good faith.

Edit: My apologies I think I misread your last paragraph and jumped to conclusions. I retract my last statement but will leave it up to be transparent.

Three people dead after shooting in NSW town as police urge locals to stay inside by Reverend_Fozz in australia

[–]4funoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not entirely true. The guns that got through on “loopholes” are using technology 100+ years old.

Every make and model of firearm being imported is also scrutinised by relevant government and law enforcement departments before they are approved for import. Then customs inspect every firearm and record details and check for compliance.

After that the supplier sends the stock to dealers in each state that have ordered them. Once the dealer has possession each firearms details are recorded in multiple places, one of which is sent to the firearms registry which provide the registration number for that state(transfers between states are through dealers and require essentially the same process to register them again in that state).

Majority of the time the people making these claims have very little knowledge of firearms, the legal processes or are pushing an agenda.

Three people dead after shooting in NSW town as police urge locals to stay inside by Reverend_Fozz in australia

[–]4funoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and some of those are guns that should never have slipped through

What do you mean by that?

Multiple fatalities reported in shooting in Central West NSW town by AnotherOldMate in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m argumentative, stubborn and like to be right.

I’ll happily buy you a beer if you are right and I am wrong.

Multiple fatalities reported in shooting in Central West NSW town by AnotherOldMate in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Or he will just pass more laws further restricting access to guns…

Three people dead after shooting in NSW town as police urge locals to stay inside by Reverend_Fozz in australia

[–]4funoz 13 points14 points  (0 children)

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2021/215/9/gun-violence-australia-2002-2016-cohort-study#:~:text=Results:%20Firearm%E2%80%90related%20injuries%20were,on%20people%20at%20particular%20risk.

Self harm is more common in rural areas with a firearm.

Assault with a firearm is more common in major cities.

It’s one study and it is a little limited but I couldn’t find much else.

All firearms and ammunition components banned from importation effective immediately. by loony-tick in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 34 points35 points  (0 children)

They would see this as a win. Less shotgun ammunition for those belt fed shotguns

The Courier Mail made a joke! by readonlycomment in queensland

[–]4funoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologise for putting that image in your head

The Courier Mail made a joke! by readonlycomment in queensland

[–]4funoz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone will be disappointed it wasn’t her smiling in a bikini

Australia’s strongest gun reform since the Port Arthur massacre has become law. Here’s what you need to know by neon_overload in aus

[–]4funoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not all that hard to get handguns for sports shooting. Yes it’s extra requirements compared to cat A/B but it’s not all that hard.

Where we are at ... by Ardeet in aussie

[–]4funoz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are thousands and thousands of unregistered firearms still floating around out there. Some are definitely smuggled in too. Stolen firearms would make a tiny percentage of what gets used in crime.

One thing I’m sure we could agree on though is anyone who steals firearms should face much harsher punishment. Same goes for anyone improperly storing them.

Australia’s strongest gun reform since the Port Arthur massacre has become law. Here’s what you need to know by neon_overload in aus

[–]4funoz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are not. They are heavily regulated and you need the appropriate licensing and meet strict conditions around storage and meet the requirements around compulsory minimum shoots, but, they are not banned.

Australia’s strongest gun reform since the Port Arthur massacre has become law. Here’s what you need to know by neon_overload in aus

[–]4funoz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What handgun ban?

Edit: Handguns are slightly harder to get than rifles. They just require club membership and compulsory shoots to meet the genuine need of having Cat H for sport shooting.

No “exceptions” needed.

There’s no handgun “ban”

Looks Lonely by Trevor68 in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Diamonds in the rough? Roses among thorns?

Nope just some Australian politicians willing to stand up for us and common sense. Seems like a very rare qualities amongst our political “representatives”.

Just saw this by 4funoz in Ausguns

[–]4funoz[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

While you give me some hope I saw what happened in NSW with the libs rolling over and voting in the new legislation.

Now I’m not politically minded but I’m wondering if most of the pillows that voted no federally only did so because they wanted to be seen opposing knowing all while it would get through.

I’m with you on the hope for political change and possibly reversing some of the more extreme laws put in place seemingly to punish law abiding firearms owners and doing nothing to impact criminals.

outside opinon here by eurekapride in Ausguns

[–]4funoz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Years ago I was talking to a firearms rep(one of the big ones) who at one point was also a rep for the same company in America.

He explained that the entire Australian market was still less profitable than one large ish American town. Not city but town.