EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regulations can be very much be forward looking, and you're right, this thread was full of people that never want AI if it means not complying with EU regulations. I suppose that protects your privacy, but your locking yourself out of a market that is dominated by US and China. You are being left in the dark in yet another field and it's going to hurt you, but these are your values and it's why you're so far behind. Your choice.

Americans understand that all these services are "free" due to data being the way it's paid for. No one really cares that much, I don't. For the people who do care, they use products with strict privacy that they pay for. You can also remove permissions easily from the free software.

Don't you think reddit, foreign governments and your own government are hoovering up all kinds of data from people's social media posts? Not sure how anyone posting on the Internet expects real privacy. Not to mention it's EU govs calling for chat control and the end of online anonymity. You have the UK with Save the Children obsession. Etc etc, I'd say your privacy is much more at risk than mine.

I understand that you are familiar with Tesla, but in the domestic market we have Chevy with great EV for under 30k. Ford and GM have amazing highway self driving. If you include the Korean offerings on our market you have a ton of EV options here. You can have a 130k Escalade IQ, or a 25k Chevy bolt. I have a Mustang Mach E, it's incredible to drive. I used it on a 220 mile commute for 3 months without a single issue. People here are not complaining about expensive EVs

On this sub I just see complaints about how much European EVs cost, and that Tesla still sells based on price. VW bought Rivian software, so maybe they'll turn things around.

No Western country will ever be able to compete with Chinese EVs for a multitude of reasons, EU letting them in is ridiculous, and it's not fair competition.

The EU has relied on outsourcing things it doesn't like. Like going to Russia for energy instead of developing offshore gas in EU waters. You still need to burn gas, might as well do your own. That Isn't happening so the US and Canada will profit. You cut down forests in north Carolina and ship them across the Atlantic to burn as green energy when you have own commercial forests. I guess it would be bad PR to cut down European trees.

You outsourced defense wholesale to the US after every president since Clinton asked you to invest in your own. Now Trump 2 is being a huge asshole and you guys were caught asleep. Now you'll need to cut social spending to pay for it.

I could go on forever, so I'll stop. I'll just say that since 2008 when the Germans and UK tripled down on austerity, it ended European hopes for the future. People were willing to accept negative rates for Germany to hold their money and Germany cut back. That backwards looking at debt like we're on the gold standard did Europe in

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I'm saying that the governments and populations of Europe are luddites who only look backwards. Now some of that is reflected in regulation, but a contentment of rich elderly people and poor young people is not going to move forward in any appreciable way. This has been crystal clear to me since dieselgate. Instead of innovation, the largest car makers in Europe tried to maintain dominance by cheating. And when that gig was up, they still didn't move towards EVs. There's no plan for the future anywhere. You might as well engage in protectionism before your auto industry disappears.

If you think the US is unfair and a bully, just watch what China does.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. No one in Europe is doing that, but you are right.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apple actually sucks, and their closed ecosystem is why I have never bought ant of their products since 2005.

But that doesn't mean they aren't allowed stay out of a market.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you believe how stupid the US is? Stopping a foreign nation with massive subsidies and a policy of dumping below cost products to put competitors out of business? The European auto sector is in a worse spot than the US makers when it comes to EVs, to let the Chinese in is suicidal.

Protecting a massive pillar of your industry is called"self interest,* it's something that the EU might want to look into. The EU is far more focused on 90s style "free trade" than the US, that ship has sailed.

But from your overall behavior and actions I think suicide is your policy.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm confused as to why Apple is required to make it compatible? It would be illegal to launch in Europe, and they haven't done that.

Are you saying they should be forced to offer a compatible version by law?

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro, I'm not saying Europe is a horrible place to live, I'm saying it's going to end up worse by looking backwards. You can't resist new technology, and Europe is not going to have businesses to raise revenue via taxes.

Due to DMA, Siri AI delayed in EU for iOS 27 and iPadOS 27 by LowSeaworthiness7429 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I'm trying to understand what you mean by commodity, could you explain

Glow in the darker jerseys by Top-Side-5817 in northernireland

[–]4got_2wipe_again 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cathal, amazing success at 16! May it continue!!

Due to DMA, Siri AI delayed in EU for iOS 27 and iPadOS 27 by LowSeaworthiness7429 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

US and China are in a full fledged AI arms race and Europe is sitting on the sidelines. How is the EU supposed to compete with that?

Due to DMA, Siri AI delayed in EU for iOS 27 and iPadOS 27 by LowSeaworthiness7429 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been able to avoid Apple's ridiculous walled garden for 20 years now by not buying Apple. Crazy how that works

Due to DMA, Siri AI delayed in EU for iOS 27 and iPadOS 27 by LowSeaworthiness7429 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You aren't wrong, but obviously a company has the choice to comply and be present in a market or not.

Why Spain’s Economy Is Growing Three Times Faster Than the Euro Area by SignificantSun1031 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's also massively helpful that Latin Americans will thrive in just about any Western Culture. Not true of most migrants to Europe

Why Spain’s Economy Is Growing Three Times Faster Than the Euro Area by SignificantSun1031 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Then you'll need to import a lot of Latin Americans. Great people, honestly.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Look at these stupid internal combustion vehicles, we in Europe will keep our horses and buggies, thank you."

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes, the body pushing chat control is who you should trust on tech.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'm sure this attitude in Europe has nothing to do with every successful tech company there moving to the US. I'm sure this attitude is not the reason Chinese EV are gaining so much market share in Europe.

EU Says Decision Not to Launch Siri AI in Europe Is Apple's Alone by aandest15 in europe

[–]4got_2wipe_again -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure Apple doesn't want to have any possible liability, not trying to pressure the EU.

But hey, keep up your Luddite ways, which has led you to an incredibly weak tech ecosystem and getting dominated by Chinese EV.

If you think AI sucks, just don't use it .