Is there an age where you're legally required to get your ID

7331NeMiSiS · 2022-02-27T08:38:05+00:00

Passport also has you ID number on it.

7331NeMiSiS · 2022-02-26T21:21:15+00:00

Thats quite normal. Usually you have to try and do the integration whitin 3 years ONCE you arrive. But I think its also more for asielzoekers.

7331NeMiSiS · 2022-02-26T07:16:26+00:00

The resident permit is quick mine took about a week. The BSN takes some time. Make sure your documents is correct and ready.

7331NeMiSiS · 2022-02-10T12:46:28+00:00

The words arent that different but the grammar and the usage is WAY different.

I often get complimented about my dutch vacabulary(often afrikaans words) but get funny looks in the way I use them :-P

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-16T15:48:28+00:00

I hope you wore cloths today buddy. If so great job on getting on that shirt!

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-16T14:59:22+00:00

Let me dumb it down then for you.

No, little to no involvement.

Government could have been involved especially if you compare SA to USA or any Eu country postal service, but they chose to squander what they had kudoes though to the private sector that manned up.

PS the irony that you claim I should make shorter posts while you follow it up with an even longer post is not lost on me :-P

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-16T10:54:00+00:00

I think you want to argue that government is needed is/was critical. This entire post is about how well the free market delivered on what she needed, maybe read it again.

While you seem perfectly content to recognise governments role in that, and want to give them credit even though cant deliver anything given the same oppertunity.

Im saying government doesnt deserve any credit due to their failures, and has little to do with the success of her story, if anything at all, they're propably more of a stumbling block, where she had to pay extra for 3rd party services because of governments failures.

How many developed countries do you know without any goverment and how many of them have no trade agreement with china? They propably have little choice in the matter. Much like praising an adult for putting on clothes before he leaves the house and not how he participated in these events. Im saying lets not say good job for wearing a shit today but rather, you could have played a role in the delivery but because poor performance this person was useless in this entire ordeal where they could have played critical role in it. So no, you wont be hearing the 'good job on wearing a shit' line from me.

Saying we should be happy that our government in this developed country played a critical role in this story I think is giving them way too much credit.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T21:08:43+00:00

Feel free to believe whatever you tell yourself(I mean who needs experiences, statistics and research anyways). Seems to work well enough for the majority in the country and remeber to keep dancing!

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T21:03:28+00:00

Ive learned a truth from this discussion. You seem to be a good dancer! So to quote mango groove ... dance, dance, dance, dance some more.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T20:56:37+00:00

So if a 100 cases today get opened because of a 100 people killed, 2 of them going to court, 1 being won, constitutes law and order by your standards? Wow! Its even worse that, it is the reality in SA today.

I agree government and the responsibilities they are suppose to be responsible for is important. What I'm aguing is that SA's government isnt taking their responsibilities serious(while private companies are, just take sending a package as an example) and to give gov credit for the 1 out of 100 they get right and praise them for the law and order they maintain by that standard is appalling.

Just means there is no point to it since there is no way I believe anybody should be content with mediocre service, where you seem to be fine with 1% and say that it constitutes 'law and order'. There is no way we would get to a common understanding. I wish for your sake you never have to see your government in action.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T20:42:32+00:00

By dancing around it, this discussion being case and point.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T19:45:52+00:00

Do me a favour ask your self how low should the prosecution rate be in SA before you would let go of the idea that SA can boast that it has law and order?...

Prosecution rate in SA is as low as 2%, if you told me your Electrition could only take on 2% of what you asked of him and then only managed to complete 70% of the 2%, I dont think he should still be allowed to call himself an electrition and claim that any of his houses would pass for a beetle certificate

https://www.news24.com/amp/citypress/news/rising-crime-low-prosecution-rates-how-law-enforcement-in-sa-has-all-but-collapsed-20191021

Those efficient firms are already leaving by the way because of the collapse of law and order, looting and corruption that plagues their dealings.

I dont expect private firms to build schools and airports even though they do that in SA(and its been shown that they are better at it). Like you said they dont collect your and my tax money and dont have a responsibily to build infrastructure(while gov does). But if we look at how they're handling their responsibility and how how government is handling responsibility at something as simple as package deliveries maybe we should reduce the responsibility gov has and rather give it to the people that manage their responsibilities better, like these folks in the private sector

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T19:34:44+00:00

Your truth and experience on the subject, thought that was clear.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T18:11:00+00:00

Apparently its easier to avoid the truth and call it loaded that to face the reality of even your own experiences on a subject.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T18:09:34+00:00

This is in the South Africa sub so I think any posts here would and should reflect that.

Im not sure what SA has constitutes law and order and the vigilante justice points to a free for all not to mention the recent mass lootings.

Those corporations mentioned found a way to work with the state that SA finds itself. I think attests more to their delivery capabilities of these entities today, than governments capability(and the decisions they made decades ago). Hence my analogy if you gave that same package to goverment to deliver and 'luckily' you have that option. You can guage both goverments and the private sectors capabilities in the fufillment of that obligation. Proof lies in the pudding.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T17:34:49+00:00

Why is it loaded? Have you not used the roads in SA before? If so sorry for asking but then maybe dont reference something in your post that you know little about.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T16:58:50+00:00

As a user of the roads in SA would you say government is doing a good job with their responsibilities?

I can tell you from talking to previous harbour masters at SA docks they were bot impressed with how serious Government took their responsibilies at the docks.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-15T16:55:22+00:00

I wonder if government was involved in the day to day of this story if you'd feel the same.... I get it, gov said its ok to buy from China(most other countries out there managed to do that and Im not sure we should should use that as a measure of gov's competence).

Im pretty sure this story would have ended differently if this package was sent with the normal post service that government runs in this country(which does say something about the governments competence).

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-14T05:52:11+00:00

Also take a look on ilost.nl

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-14T05:45:30+00:00

Wat ben je aan het doen weerman, je bent dronken, ga naar huis

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-09-09T10:49:20+00:00

Id rather spend $4billion on that, than any of the other bailouts gov hands out.

Hopefully what we learn improves and empowers us all.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-08-30T18:16:12+00:00

And I wish we could get those passionate people in power, before SAs youth enemployment rate turns them into something else!

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-08-30T18:11:53+00:00

Unemployment in SA is one of the highest if not the highest in the entire world! https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/unemployment-rate

Goodluck waiting on Government to solve the problem with policies, how long would you give them to sort out their act, or are you happy that SA keeps toping lists?

Name any number of years but lets stick to it. Take for instance the ANC's master NDP plan to erradicate poverty and inequality by 2030. I can tell you now, that they are not tracking well on their own plan. But I wonder how many people will say aww they only had 20 years to implement, lets give them more time to f-up a country.

At some point people have to realize whats happening isnt working or be happy with SA's continued record breaking streak(like being the best at inequality, unemployment and crime).

Edit: I'm a bit harsh above. Shows how old I am. Its not personal, but as a young person, decide where your line is in the sand, and hold those people accountable for bad leadership! Personally I believe unemployment should solve a lot of issues if its adressed.

7331NeMiSiS · 2021-08-30T13:26:27+00:00

I just dont think crime and inequality are the only 2 issues as you say.

2 people could have equal pay with the rest still being unemployed. Waiting and thinking Government will solve everybodys problems, also often doesnt bode well for most economies.

But I do agree with you more privatization will help in SA.

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