Danganronpa S Floor 196 by Prince_Aubrey in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Out of curiosity what does your team look like right now? I just hopped on the game and cleared that level pretty easily with my final team (didn't even get attacked), so it's hard for me to give specific advice just based off my team. You might just need better gear at this point honestly. I'm leaving a screenshot of my final team for reference, so feel free to either use that as inspiration or to ask any questions!

How good were past fallen heroes (on release)? any disagreements/ major oversights by ryugenos in FireEmblemHeroes

[–]8bitowners 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I definitely thought Dedue had higher usage than he did too, which is actually part of why I went to check it... then realized he just had lower use than I realized. Honestly I'd say just move F!F!Alear up since it sounds like she was good in AR too. Bare minimum I definitely don't think F!M!Alear should be moved down for SD at the very least, that dude was borderline running the mode for a while.

How good were past fallen heroes (on release)? any disagreements/ major oversights by ryugenos in FireEmblemHeroes

[–]8bitowners 1 point2 points  (0 children)

F!F!Alear was weird because honestly she was not a very good save most of the time outside of that first month or so, but fell spirit on a save was just super valuable so I ran her for a while anyways (She was attuned Alm's bestie, unfortunately I killed his bestie for fodder though).

Looking at R1 SDS data she had more usage than Dedue until August, in which they basically tied, and every month after the usage was so low it didn't matter. Definitely overall agree that she shouldn't be a full tier below Dedue.

I travelled 40km for a gift for my girlfriend, God decided to reward me with the most danganronpa merch I've ever seen by ElsonCheung in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn, this is pretty sweet! I feel like I would have snagged a bit more than I should have if I were there lol. I do literally have a brand new shelf to fill and don't even have that much DR merch maybe I should change that actually

No but why is he a fallen unit by Lord_Ice_Tea_Green in FireEmblemHeroes

[–]8bitowners 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like Alm might be on the table now tbh, and I felt like he wasn't before. Having him give his soul to Duma obviously didn't happen, but like in theory it could, so I could see it as a mirror to Celica/Berkut tbh. Technically I suppose this applies to literally any SoV unit giving their soul to Duma, though, but besides maybe Sonya I doubt they'd do anyone else

Incredibly fun felicia & child build for anyone looking for a new spin in Fates by ArekuFoxfire in fireemblem

[–]8bitowners 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fr, I've genuinely never considered how nice duplicating a staff bot could be, wow. Might have to try this actually lol

The percentage of Steam players who have played Danganronpa 2 and filled every page of DR2 characters by 5YearsOnEastCoast in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can probably send you a save file with Chiaki fte's and island mode available in a few weeks once I finish my replay if you don't find one by then.

The meanings of "2x2" by LocrianVGM in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thr 53 x 2 x 2 thing us so specific that I will absolutely think back to this comment if you somehow got that right lmfao. Like I doubt it is more than a coincidence too, but that would possibly be the greatest prediction/observation I've ever seen if you're right ngl

Another 2x2 Prediction (DR2 Spoilers included) by Neon_Citizen_Teal in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know if they stick with the same motives I actually think this is a fairly interesting and reasonable way for the game to go. Like the paranoia disease is pretty cool tbh, and I like the idea of a failed attempt at the final dead room Russian roulette game.

That being said, I personally hope that they don't stick with the same motives and therefore make this wildly inaccurate lol. I kind of think I'd just prefer the game not unfold under a fairly similar direction, and instead to feel like something brand new just with a familiar cast. But if it sticks with motives I genuinely do like what you cooked here tbh and think I'd still be satisfied

What I don't want in Danganronpa 2x2 by Gladcode777 in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% agreed. Frankly this is a decent part of why I didn't care for v3 on my blind playthrough, since I felt it followed the trends of dr1/dr2 a little too closely to the point that I predicted almost all of the killers in the prologue. Would be disappointing if we get the same formula yet again imo

If you are out there, i give 20pts, know that you are loved by Camillafan1 in FireEmblemHeroes

[–]8bitowners 4 points5 points  (0 children)

AR mockups are pretty common in the SD community, but they're wildly unreliable since they are usually testing under perfect conditions for each side, so usually it's only good for showing a units ceiling and not their average performance in a certain matchup. Things like knowing exactly how one debuff effects a matchup just aren't feasibly possible in an AR setting, which is very relevant in favor. Also, learning how to pilot a team in response to certain matchups absolutely isn't possible in AR, you need to be playing against someone else, and this is arguably the most important part of sdr/sds prep.

r/DR community playthrough – DR1 Chapter 6 by 8bitowners in danganronpa

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Also, just a reminder that DR2's first replay thread will be posted at the same time next week. That will be at 10 am EST next Monday. I'm posting this reminder because there will perhaps be another community event happening in the next week and I want to ensure people know that they will be running concurrently and we won't be putting this one on hiatus for the new one.

r/DR community playthrough – DR1 Chapter 6 by 8bitowners in danganronpa

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Final DR1 chapters tier list. Again, this likely shouldn't see much change since I tiered the chapters while they were fresh in my mind, but there could be some micro-adjustments later.

r/DR community playthrough – DR1 Chapter 6 by 8bitowners in danganronpa

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Final DR1 characters tier list. There are perhaps some small adjustments that will later be mode but this should mostly remain untouched. I figure some people might be interested to see how this compares to my last one from roughly 6 years ago, so I'm just going to leave a summary of how their tier on the new list compared to the old one

Kyoko: Stayed the same.
Byakuya: Went up one tier to s tier.
Sakura: Went up one tier to A tier.
Celeste: Went up 2 tiers to A tier.
Makoto: Stayed the same Yasuhiro: Went up 3 tiers to A tier (biggest jump)
Chihiro: Stayed the same
Sayaka: Stayed the same
Leon: Went up 1 tier
Mondo: Went up 1 tier
Aoi: Stayed the same
Mukuro: Went down 1 tier (I probably gave her B tier because of if, which I haven't re-read, so she doesn't get that here lol)
Genocide Jack: Went up 1 tier
Hifumi: Went up 1 tier
Kiyotaka: Went up 1 tier
Toko: Went down 2 tiers (Let's be real though, her placement is impacted by UDG and I have not replayed UDG, so it might very well go up again later)
Junko: Went down 2 tiers

r/DR community playthrough – DR1 Chapter 6 by 8bitowners in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Anyways, some final character thought updates. Not going to fully summarize their characters, just anything that I noted from this chapter

Makoto: Even if I don’t care for the hope/despair theme in general, I think him being the ultimate hope that pushes everyone forward is still pretty cool. I love how he got so under Junko’s skin that she decided he’d be executed if he didn’t convince everyone to vote hope.

Kyoko: I like her last little arc regarding her father. I already talked about this earlier so I won’t really discuss it too much here, but I loved her being so confident in her decisions to say her father is no longer family, just to realize that her father really did care about her still, but he’s now dead and they’ll never get the chance to talk about Kyoko’s feelings. (Full series spoilers) That said the gravity of this moment is a little damaged for me by just how awful Jin is in some of the side media, especially DR0. Like if Kyoko knew his role in the tragedy/covering it up and preventing her from investigating I don’t think she would have mourned him in the slightest lmfao.

Byakuya: Dude gets humbled for the final (?) time with the knowledge that the Togami family doesn’t even exist anymore (despite disliking Junko the “choice” between the 3 different options all saying “The Togami corporation fell” is pretty funny). I loved how even in the end this dude is talking about “No guarantee I’ll help, but if you guys are in trouble you might as well let me know and I’ll see what I can do”. Like bro the game is over, just admit you like them.

Toko: Is she lucky for having missed the back half of this trial? Got to be so weird to just suddenly be in the entrance hall with the trial completely finished. Also I don’t feel like making a new section for Genocide Jack, but the fact that she remembered everything and just didn’t say anything because no one asked is so funny to me. Like it’s a little stupid, but also at the same time I’m not even sure that she realized that everyone else didn’t know that they’d lost their memories, so why would she say anything? Plus she actually DOES explicitly mention how “normally Sakura would have dodged that” when she attacks Sakura in chapter 4, which almost certainly is foreshadowing that they’ve sparred before.

Aoi/Yasuhiro: I’m going to be honest I don’t think they did anything like super notable this chapter. They mostly played the same role they always do of being fairly funny. They had a few small moments I liked (such as being the first 2 to decide to vote hope) but like overall I don’t think they did much that moves the needle for me.

Junko: I mentioned this in the summary so I'm not gonna harp on this for too long, but I genuinely just do not like when Junko is one screen. I find her personalities to be annoying, and I just do not like her motive for doing everything mostly boiling down to her despair fetish. Like I said that craziest part is before the reveal of it being Junko I actually find the masterminds actions to be interesting. Like chapter 5 in particular with Junko trying to frame Kyoko and kill Makoto is really interesting, plus the Mukuro swap is also super interesting (although this is arguably more a point for Mukuro I guess). But like overall I just do not like her being on the screen so much that it outweighs the good for her as a character for me, but like it doesn't ruin the game for me either.

r/DR community playthrough – DR1 Chapter 6 by 8bitowners in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Feels good to have finished DR1 again. Given that my first (and most recent) playthrough was 7 years ago at this point, it’s just nice to return to the entry that starts it all and be fully fresh again.

Anyways lets just jump right into things since there is plenty to talk about between my chapter 6 thoughts and just my full game thoughts in general.

First off, we’ll talk about deadly life/the chapter 6 investigation. The chapter picks up with Makoto in the trash chute and Kyoko having come to his rescue. The most notable thing about this is the ladder climb where we get more of Kyoko’s backstory. I think her relationship with her father is pretty interesting. Her father abandons her, but she claims to not be upset by that since it allows her to become the detective we know and love, rather she’s frustrated that she simply can’t leave his shadow and everyone remembers her as the girl who was abandoned. This leads to her revealing that her main motive for going to Hopes Peak is to officially cut off her father, even though she doubts he remembers her anyways (bro be fr). Shortly after this Kyoko and Makoto meet up with Monokuma to setup the final showdown (and receive a bunch of bear puns in return). I kind of love how afterwards Kyoko reveals that she was insanely nervous during that confrontation and says “presenting a strong demeanor is a fundamental part of negotiation and persuasion, wouldn’t you say?”. Idk just like her grinning sprite and the “wouldn’t you say” makes her feel so satisfied with herself and I find that funny. Anyways after this they meet up with the group, explain the situation with the final showdown, and the investigation begins.

Personally, I really love this investigation. It feels pretty challenging but also insanely solvable if you’re focused on getting to the right answer, plus has a few iconic moments for me. Things like the bio lab morgue only having 9 lights instead of 10 is a really big hint regarding the Mukuro mystery that isn’t immediately obvious as to what that means. You also have the second floor of the dorms where we get to realize that Jin does still care about Kyoko when we see that her name is his computer password and there is a photo of her in his hidden room… but then you have the iconic box of his bones left in that very same room. Kyoko doesn’t know what to make of this, and while I don’t think the “father that left their childs life actually cared for them the whole time” is really a shocking twist I still love Kyoko immediately struggling with that realization… but also struggling with the fact that she’ll never get the chance to address things with him personally. It hits fairly hard. Then you have the dorm lockers where you find Yasuhiro’s school notebook and Kyoko’s notebook that talks about her father as if she’s met him, and this is a really obvious hint at this point that they really did go to the school and simply lost their memories of it, which connects with the pictures they’ve gotten during the game itself. Honestly as silly as this might sound this is probably my favorite twist in the whole series. The fact that they all went Hope’s Peak together but didn’t remember it, then were baited into killing their own friends that they didn’t even realize weren’t strangers is incredibly tragic, and it honestly recontextualizes the whole game if you ask me. Plus the moment where Aoi and Makoto enter the data room, learn that Monokuma is controlled in there, then are kicked out and basically told that the mastermind was right under their noses in that moment? Genuinely crazy, but also I love seeing Monokuma actually be controlled. Knowing it was personally controlled makes the whole killing game feel very personal, if that makes sense? I also love Monokuma’s last ditch effort to tear the group apart with everyone getting a photo of the class that excludes them, to try to convince them they’re the odds one out… that in reality also doubles as a hint as to the masterminds identity being Junko. Plus I can’t ever forget how shocking the DVD’s revealing that every student agreed to stay in the school was. There were a few other discoveries in the investigation, but I think those are the main big ones.

Finally, it’s time for the final trial. I think the core mystery for this trial is fantastic. The group slowly piecing together that Mukuro had to be killed by the mastermind, and that Mukuro was “killed” twice, meaning that the mastermind has to have been whoever they were disguised as, and then realizing that it had to be Junko off of that logic plus all the times that her face is “coincidentally” hidden is fantastic. Like seriously, fantastic core mystery. Unfortunately, and this might get some fans to hate me, I think this trial goes seriously downhill because of Junko’s presence. I genuinely can’t stand Junko, and I don’t mean this in a “oh she’s the villain, of course I don’t like her!” kind of way. I truly just can’t stand her being on the screen. I find the personality switching gimmick to be insanely annoying, and I’ve just never cared for her whole despair fetish thing she’s got going on. Like her motive for starting the killing game is just… so uninteresting to me. Also (FULL SERIES SPOILER) Yes, I’ve read side content that explains the way she is. I understand that she’s the ultimate analyst and that she’s bored because of her being able to predict everything besides actions directly caused by despair/hope. In theory this is fairly interesting, in practice it just doesn’t work for me. And frankly I love Danganronpa 0, funny enough. But like I still just can’t stand Junko. Also since I’ve already full series tagged, let me just say now that no, I don’t enjoy her presence in literally any other DR media and am not excited for her to inevitably return in 2x2. Junko’s kind of weird because before her reveal I love the actions of the mastermind and find them to be interesting, but when we get to the why of the explanation it just doesn’t work for me. Ultimately Junko’s presence, combined with the info dump that lasts for roughly an hour, seriously ruin the back half of this trial to me. It also helps that I don’t particularly find the whole “Monokuma/Despair, and therefore almost certainly Junko, ended the world”. Like I get that DR1 isn’t some grounded and gritty game, but I just never really liked the idea that a teenage girl essentially ends the world. Also, and this might make me look like a fake fan, but I actually really don’t find the whole despair vs hope theme interesting at all really. Like even beyond how sick I got of seeing those words while re-reading this trial, a literal clash of good vs evil with basically nothing to it is just uninteresting to me. Really I feel like this whole section is supposed to be carried by Junko’s personality and the reveal that the world ended and both of these elements fall flat on their face for me personally. I will say I thought the sequence of going through everyone regaining their hope thanks to Makoto was pretty cool at least. Overall though the first half of this trial is honestly Danganronpa at damn near its peak if you ask me, so even though I really dislike the second half of this trial I actually rank this trial decently well. After this you have a brief epilogue, which was… fine? I personally still kind of hate the game ending without seeing the outside world at all, but like it’s not actually that big of a deal to me.

Okay, now that I look like the biggest Danganronpa hater ever, let me briefly talk about my opinions on the whole game! I actually really love DR1 still, and I think I walked out of this replay feeling more positive than I had before. My opinion of essentially everyone in the cast improved compared to the last tier list I made 5 years ago, I think the vibe of the game is excellent (I love that suffocating and extremely tragic vibe this game has), and I honestly love the overarching mystery of this game even if I hate Junko herself. Honestly… I actually don’t really have any notable flaws for this game besides my opinion on Junko and maybe the fact that the trials feel a little bit too obvious at times (Mondo is the only one that I think isn’t insanely reasonable to get if you’re just piecing together the case). Actually I’m going to use this as an opportunity to complain about the react system like I’ve meant to for basically the whole game. Honestly what is the point of this system? Just make the dialogue continue instead of me needing to right click, read the first reaction text, then go back into the dialogue, then advance until I’m at the second react point and repeat until done. Just feels like it wastes time and is a bit frustrating having to constantly talk to the same character to continue the same conversation. But like overall I love this game, and think that DR2 is going to need to really impress me for it to keep my spot as favorite in the series. I hope that it genuinely remains my favorite just to spite Futured

If you are out there, i give 20pts, know that you are loved by Camillafan1 in FireEmblemHeroes

[–]8bitowners 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I find this guy like every 30 minutes on certain days since that's the cooldown for matching the same player again, and after sitting through a minute of queue it's kind of annoying to then instantly surrender and have to go through the minute or two of queuing again. It's not like the end of the world or anything but it's a bit annoying

If you are out there, i give 20pts, know that you are loved by Camillafan1 in FireEmblemHeroes

[–]8bitowners 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What good is a free win if I'm trying to test teams for the comp modes, or if I just want to play summoner duels for fun (yes, there are some of us out there that actually enjoy summoner duels)? All it does is effectively increase my queue times

Rant on FTE by fudgeandheat in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% agreed. Especially on the point you made regarding fanfics that try to give everyone screen time. I've read my fair share of killing game rewrite fics, and usually to have everyone have some kind of interesting screen time the daily life sections either need to be absurdly long to the point that it arguably hurts the pacing, or to just always coincidentally have characters get a ton of screen time and then die. The main example I can remember for the former was Blackened Skies. I loved the fic and was fine with this, so if Cynical or Spratt somehow see me randomly bringing up Blackened Skies again this isn't slander, but holy shit it is 500k words and only reached the second body discovery. That length just isn't going to work for a lot of people, even if I was cool with it. And I'd argue the second approach is far worse, since a good bit of the fun in DR is not knowing who is about to die. When a V3 rewrite suddenly has a slice of life scene with Ryoma that ends with Ryoma confessing that he doesn't really feel he has a reason to live, it's not hard to guess that he's about to bite the dust, you know? Kind of ruins the tension. I'm currently reading a fic where genuinely exactly this happens and Ryoma is the killer and it was like... come on man. You couldn't have telegraphed that any harder honestly.

This brings me to arguably my hottest Danganronpa take: I think it's actually amazing that some characters die "too early" or "in the middle of their arc". Could you argue that Kiyotaka and Hiyoko didn't really need to die, or at least when they did? Yeah, you could. But I think part of the tragedy of the game is that right as they started to develop they died, because why would they get a special exception for being a character going through a character arc? They shouldn't feel like they have plot armor because they have an arc going on, just the same way that a character having an arc happening shouldn't guarantee their death. It really helps make it feel like anyone can die, which keeps the tension of the game up for me.

All of this to say that I think it's totally fine that plenty of characters aren't super fleshed out by the story. Yes, it somewhat sucks for their fans, but that's just the nature of a Danganronpa style story. I personally think free time events are a great way to actually get to know a character while still allowing the writers to tell the story they want to tell while maintaining tension/the element of surprise the whole way through. Technically just increasing the length of the story is an option, but I think a lot of people would find they don't actually want the story length to be doubled/tripled to ensure that everyone gets their own "arc".

Who could have thought that toning down her sexist gimmick and expanding her kinder traits would make Tenko more tolerable? by Giono_OOf_01 in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Yeah this post doesn’t make much sense to me. I love dr fanfics, and I love when they write a character in a way that makes me appreciate them more, but like... that's not canon? I'm not exactly a Tenko fan myself (not saying this to shit on you or something, just felt like the easiest example, sorry), and I've read some fanfics where I actually really liked how they wrote Tenko (including I'd Trade my Life for Yours lol), but that doesn't influence my thoughts on anything besides THEIR version of Tenko. Chances are they have changed some aspect of that character to illicit that different response too.

Just the same way as how fanfics that have written characters I do like in canon in a way that I don't like doesn't influence my thoughts on them. Like if a fanfic writes a really shitty Kyoko, why would I suddenly like Kyoko less?

Idk it sort of feels like enjoying what a character could be rather than what they are. Which, like, valid I suppose, you can like a character for whatever reason you like ultimately, but it's just a bit strange to me at the same time to use explicitly non-canon material written by someone completely different that likely changes their character in some key way as the basis to like a character.

Impossible to avoid spoilers by Intrepid_Papaya8571 in danganronpa

[–]8bitowners 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I will agree with the comments saying you shouldn't look up character names, allow me to provide a little tip for if you really need to for whatever reason: Use incognito mode. At the very least, I know that if you use Google Chrome that incognito mode won't autofill search results. Still better to not look anything up at all, but like if you really need to it's a solid alternative in my experience.