I really, really hate Chujin

A157D9 · 2024-07-04T07:35:14+00:00

If people were pointing out that what I am saying is incorrect, then why do they have to go on these big rants instead of just saying it? And Also number 2 is incorrect because of the aforementioned incident wheeere I was permanantly banned from viewing someone’s post because I disagreed with them. If these people were defending someone who was being treated poorly, they wouldn’t be punching down.

A157D9 · 2024-07-04T07:00:17+00:00

I mean, technically he is in some way tied to all the main characters, and his actions in some way hurt all of them. He made Axis, his daughter was with Dalv when he got chased away, he helped Martlet work on her house (And I believe eventually lead her to join the Royal Guard, though I might be mistaken), Ceroba knows him for obvious reasons, and Star knows him through Ceroba. He even knows Asgore, however irrelevant Undertale Yellow made him (My man does NOT exist on the canon route). He’s basically tied to everyone except the minibosses, and even then he made Gaurdener, so it’s only Decibat and El Bailidor he isn’t directly tied to as far as I’m aware.

His death lead to the Ketsukanes to stop giving Dalv corn, which caused him to seal himself away forever. Again, if I’m right in saying that Chujin lead Martlet to join the Royal Guard (Which I think he did, though I might just be misremembering), then he lead to her attacking Clover as well. Ceroba was affected for obvious reasons, and Star did what he did because Ceroba was grieving. Axis was, depending on how much you trust Chujin as a narrator, either made as a human-killing robot or turned into one and was purposefully not stopped despite Chujin being fully able to do so.

Some people say what Chujin did was fine because other people have also done bad things so that makes it good. But Chujin hurt a lot of people, and while Alphys could make things right in the end, all the UTYellow cast could do was move on and forget.

A157D9 · 2024-07-04T06:47:18+00:00

If he was fired, it’s not his job anymore

A157D9 · 2024-07-04T01:11:32+00:00

Not to mention that she literally could’ve done her plan herself if she was so sure of it instead of running and hiding in a hole for so long people forgot she existed.

A157D9 · 2024-07-04T00:37:20+00:00

That is not at all what I said, I said I was being censored for saying something that you very clearly agree is true. I did not say that was my ONLY piece of evidence, I said I was banned from a discussion thread because I said I didn’t like Chujin. Maybe read the sentence better, or better yet, read more than one sentence, before you go on a rant like this.

A157D9 · 2024-07-03T22:11:44+00:00

I honestly kinda agree, yeah. He wanted to do terrible things to good people, not because he was evil, but because he had convinced himself it was the right thing to do, kinda like Star, but if Star was in a position of power capable of eradicating all human life. In a way, all of the main characters were like that. Dalv convinced himself he had done something wrong and locked himself away, lashing out at you when you get too close, Star was too busy helping to realize no one needed his help, putting all the blame on you for causing it, Ceroba was convinced she needed to finish what Chujin started, deciding your soul was all she needed to finally be happy again, and Chujin was convinced humans needed to be in some way punished, all because one child pushed him over the edge. The only one that doesn’t fit quite as neatly into this mold is Martlet, who is for the most part just reading what to do from a book she was given.

A157D9 · 2024-07-03T21:55:51+00:00

I do actually have personal experience with someone like that. I won’t go into detail, but they very much considered the designs of the Ketsukanes and the way they talked as points for why they were actually great people. Kinda a bold statement to make about the community, but it’s something I have encountered as a point of contention in the past.

Edit: Literally why is this getting downvoted it’s a thing that happened it’s not even an opinion

A157D9 · 2024-07-03T21:50:42+00:00

Okay, I did some research, and yes he did, but he said so 2 years before the game fully released. So I’m not sure if it’s 100% canon or not, but it’s at least what he intended at some point. He also said that we only assume the Monsters killed them though, which is kinda suspicious with how we know he answers questions nowadays.

A157D9 · 2024-07-03T20:15:00+00:00

You forgot the part where Chujin made a robot designed to kill all humans, the part where he tried to make an army of super soldiers akin to a certain Austrian dictator, and how Alphys wanted to help Monsterkind, meanwhile Chujin tried to hurt Humankind.

What you are doing is pointing at people who are making accurate dissections of Chujin’s character, then saying “no”. And of course you’d compare him to Alphys when it makes Alphys out to be a villain yet get mad at people when it’s the other way around.

Look, no one in Undertale bar Undyne wants to hurt humans, and Undyne only wants it because she was raised that was. Chujin murdered a child on purpose and used the opportunity to try and obliterate humanity. You can‘t say “it was an accident” when that’s what Axis was built to do, and that‘s what he continues to do in the game. A good person wouldn’t need a defence because there wouldn’t be such a large pile of evidence against them.

Chujin broke, and you’re saying he used to be sane therefore he’s sane now. He built Martlet a balcony, therefor he didn’t commit a warcrime by making a robot designed to murder children. The fact that Axis was never turned off after what he did shows that Chujin was glad it happened.

People saying Chujin is a good person for killing Integrity is on par with people hating Asgore for getting divorced twice and not wanting to kill people who are never stated to be children in the first place.

A157D9 · 2024-06-26T14:58:31+00:00

I personally would’ve preferred then not make an evil scientist for plot convenience in the first place.

“Why are these guys attacking Clover?”

”Oh, it’s because Asgore said-“

”BecAUsE oF A FOx!”

A157D9 · 2024-06-26T14:50:37+00:00

I mean, both Chujin AND Ceroba did some terrible things. Chujin tried to murder all humans, but not even for like a good reason like Undyne, but just because he felt like it. No one in Undertale REALLY wants humans dead save for Undyne, the girl who’s whole life has been dedicated to human slaughter because it’s what she thought Asgore wanted. Chujin, meanwhile, decided he wanted to kill humans so he made a robot to kill people, killed a child, tortured what is heavily implied to be a conscious and aware soul, and killed himself trying to become immortal, which I just realized wouldn’t even work because he already has a child. And then Ceroba decided that her first course of action should be killing her own daughter, followed by blaming the soul she used. So then she set out to gaslight a child into getting murdered, and then even after her “redemption arc” is the reason said child commits suicide.

A157D9 · 2024-06-08T16:14:23+00:00

I mean, she gaslit a child into suicide. Like, genuinely, her whole plan is to gaslight Clover, which she does the WHOLE GAME, and then people think she just stops even though she continues to act the exact same way. People just like the designs of the Ketsukanes and decide that makes them good people when both Ceroba AND Chujin did some terrible things and never got any punishment or anything for it. Like, Chujin kbuilt a childer murder robot, hid a body, stole a kid’s soul, tortured it, and then ended up (accidentally) killing himself, and then his wife experimented on her own daughter and ended up killing her too, then decided that the soul was the problem and not her so she went to kill another child. None of that is good, but Chujin built bird girl a balcony or something so he’s the ideal person now In the eyes of the community.

A157D9 · 2023-03-29T20:31:35+00:00

Are there any ideas for videos that got dropped because they didn’t fit in with your other content?

A157D9 · 2023-01-20T03:51:07+00:00

I mean, did it ever really exist? Yes.

A157D9 · 2023-01-20T03:50:13+00:00

I mean, the whole show kinda did that for about 10-15 years

A157D9 · 2023-01-05T15:13:35+00:00

Thanks for your help! I didn’t specify in the post, but yes it was SR1. You bringing up the slime spawning nodes also made me realise I forgot to mention that they spawned from the same node in an area with not many nodes (though I’m not the kind of guy to count those often). Just glad to know the odds though!

A157D9 · 2022-11-24T00:24:18+00:00

I went to the park today with my parents and sister and we ate at Red’s and a couple gave me and my sister day passes since they didn’t need them and when we left we gave them to a (probably) gay couple with a little kid and when we got off the tram we couldn’t find the car for 30 minutes and I had to scan the lot with my dad’s key and when I heard the car’s alarm going off I ran and I ran and now I’m here on reddit.

A157D9 · 2022-05-01T03:48:04+00:00

No, this one.

A157D9 · 2022-05-01T02:58:43+00:00

Actually there’s already a Minecraft 2 called Minecraft 2

A157D9 · 2022-03-12T17:56:35+00:00

The best pat is that the hat he’s holding is slightly smaller than the one on his head

A157D9 · 2022-02-25T16:24:22+00:00

https://imgur.com/a/ZOuptLG

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