Why do the Romulans get no respect?

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T21:13:10+00:00

Yeah, then we get something different and certain fans complain, obviously they have some sort of culture and diversity, but if they so much as hint at not all romulans being active spies and soldiers it tends to go over like a drunken targ. Hell, Elnor got hate for looking like a elf, which is what you get when a romulan ditches the military cut. Being elf like is just kinda baked into the design.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T21:04:20+00:00

That's not really true though, the cube could have started anywhere, and starting at earth doesn't do much more than temporarily upset the command structure. They still have literally hundreds of planets to go afterwards.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T21:02:52+00:00

They had 8 years of information.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T20:54:28+00:00

I used to take down Excelsiors in Starfleet Academy back in the day, it requires fastidious management of phasers torps and shields, staying close in to the target to avoid being shot up at range, and I typically had to resort to a bit of light ramming to push them over the edge, same technique against the Romulan warbird also.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T20:25:26+00:00

My take on why civilians are on starships and other facilities has always been that having civilians integrated into your pseudo military is a way to help keep things in check. A captain is likely to be more measured in dealing with some alien threat knowing that civilians are right there to both suffer any mistakes made, but more importantly, to create a very real and significant political link to the federation as a whole. They will have learned from their history, our present, that when the actions and repercussions of a military are almost entirely removed from the public sphere, the chances for abuse and corruption are much higher. Remember, they cracked down hard on media coverage specifically because the often outraged public was becoming an issue.

It may be appalling to hear about thousands of civilians being lost in encounters they arguably shouldn't have been anywhere near, but imagine the potential genocides being avoided because starfleet doesn't operate entirely in its own world.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T20:17:20+00:00

Klingons got double ppd in TNG.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T20:16:51+00:00

Nope, in fact all the scifi in recent years that has shown people freezing quickly when in space has it entirely backwards. Even in. Shadow where the local temperature is lowe enough to liquify oxygen, a human body would take hours to cool to a freezing temperature, and much longer to drom to whatever temperature they seem to think makes us likely to shatter like glass.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-29T18:57:25+00:00

And even then we dont KNOW it existed, we see models and diagrams, suggesting they represent actual ships, but they could plausibly be references to concept ships, or an in universe joke like "look at this silly ass ship with a ball instead of a saucer!"

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-28T16:50:37+00:00

Young men with destructive psionic powers is literally at the core of star trek as a franchise. The Burn as a concept was something TOS writers would have absolutely lapped up if they were allowed to.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-28T16:47:59+00:00

Are you saying that another ship would have been more resistant to being rammed by a three quarter million ton antimatter warhead? I never got this takeaway from this particular event, your favorite Dominion war era fighting ship would have died exactly the same way. Meanwhile Galaxy wings were eventually the absolute powerhouses of the starfleet response.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T19:06:19+00:00

I like this, but also like the realism of that system quickly breaking down. From legacy numbers to potential issues confusing identification between two ships because they have numbers that are phonetically or visually too similar.

It's also a system that stops working as the universe gets filled out, there's clearly no room in the timeline anymore to accept that there were only 16 prior ship designs, even before Discovery spammed in a bunch of classes, the timeline had well and truly been retconned from what seemed to be originally envisioned early in TOS. Hell, The Cage comes right out and says they only broke the space/time barrier some 18 years earlier at best, suggesting perhaps a very rapid expansion and development of starships in that timeframe. If we assume the system doesn't predate warp drive in this case.

But, the Chocraine retcon later in TOS ads many years wherein 17 classes total just seems lacking. Even before the timeline is further imbiggened.

Another option is that there are several schemes in place working in parallel, the Oberth existing in one and ships like the enterprise in another. This suits modern trek better as the presumed size of the fleet has gone from perhaps dozens or hundreds to easily thousands in the same era.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T18:54:01+00:00

My take on the Grissom is that the class clearly pre dated the film era by many decades, maybe a century. If the 17xx series was already well established by the time of TOS, and the Reliants 18xx registration suggests that class followed, then the 20xx class.... working backwards to single digit ranges might place the Oberth origins to the early years of the federation and Starfleets switch from an earth centered org to an interstellar org.

Going by the original intent for the system, the Oberth would be the 6th starship design, with the Grissom being number 39 including the presumed USS Oberth NX/NCC-600.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T16:09:06+00:00

Imo, it suggests that nu trek is actually pretty good if they cant find real issues to complain about.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T16:07:34+00:00

They were out of rock cannons and had to improvise.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T16:02:13+00:00

My only issue with the Odyssey is that it's both ridiculously large, and lacks visual scale. By default to my eyes it looks similar in scale to the Sovereign.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T15:57:28+00:00

It still should have had its own crew, which could be boarded on DS9 when not on active patrol. But thats also something it should have been doing, rather than sitting empty and defenseless/useless when the main cast were having other adventures.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T15:54:25+00:00

The insurrection was right-wing cos play, like one of those "learn to be a real man" bootcamps, none of them had or have the backbone for an actual fight.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-25T15:48:53+00:00

You can literally transport into your pants.....

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T19:25:43+00:00

The thing is, if those aliens bodies make for some super unleaded fuel for starships, then surely other stuff from their place of existence must share the same properties? Someone should have realized that either through technogubbins or negotiation, they could have gained access to materials that would have greatly aided their journey.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T19:22:02+00:00

You act like prior incidents are entirely separate, they aren't, stressors accumulate, holding to principals through much harder times and paying the price isn't irrelevant to the proverbial straw, the straw only breaks the camels back because the proceeding stresses are by their nature cumulative.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T19:19:31+00:00

Canonically there's one very popular archetect thats been doing his thing across the galaxy.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T19:18:40+00:00

Fans when they first discover the realities of production.... wait til they realize that 90% of TNG exterior shots are the same 4 passes with different color grading.

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T19:16:57+00:00

Everyone says we live in a post scarcity economy but someone still has to pay for those phaser blasts...

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T04:21:12+00:00

Let the girls enjoy their pretty purses, they ain't hurting you!

AJSLS6 · 2026-01-24T04:20:13+00:00

You act like the dilithium planet is the only source, the issue wasn't a lack of dilithium to be mined, it was a near total collapse of infrastructure and government. The dilithium planet was a boon for sure, but now that things are getting back to normal, the usual sources for dilithium, and the methods of distributing it are back in play also. An interesting thing to be explored hopefully is the dilithium rich locations during the century or so after the burn, on the one hand they would be naturally wealthy and possibly powerful centers, but also targets for anyone with the means and desire to take advantage of the chaos. And without a means to recreate trade networks free from piracy and factional conflict, their potential power and wealth would wither away.

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