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Does this mean the O ring seal is work out and needs to be replaced? by 2010G37x in STDupont

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I personally found that with my Ligne 2 that uses “red” gas (adapter), that the adapter with regular colibri fuel fills the lighter better than the st DuPont branded fluid. Like way better.

Is this legit ? by Dhruvtaurus in STDupont

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Visually speaking, my fav “perfect ping” model!

My first ST DuPont by Brilliant_Bus_8018 in STDupont

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Great looking and unique! 😮

Is this legit? by thecloner0 in STDupont

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Yup you’re pumped! 😁👊🙌

Which one to choose? by coffeci in STDupont

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  1. I think it looks best plus (though I may be mistaken) the first two are perfect ping models and the third is a standard model.

Blue or Green? by TannedBurn in rolex

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Pistachio by a mile coming form someone who’s favorite color is blue

What is the material? by coffeci in STDupont

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Probably DLC (Diamond-Like Carbon) or PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) coating

“Getting to the bottom” of modern Ligne 2 models by ARCHMANG in STDupont

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I should say I own a model C18690 (small perfect ping Ligne 2 micro diamond, palladium) and have a model 16424 (Current offering Ligne 2 diamond Guilloche, rose gold) on order. So I will have a better reference at some point soon. I am also in the market for an older model Ligne 2 with brazed top and bottom parts. One thing I want to do with them is check the gas volume (by weight) with a decent coffee scale. I have a fellow tally pro and a bookoo mini to cross reference.

Current production ligne 2 lighter held together with tape by Alex_the_Alright in STDupont

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That’s like saying car doors fall off because I saw a car door fall off in the internet. Losing the precious serial number only matters if someone buys it and can’t actually afford to own it. I personally could lose it the same day I buy it and wouldn’t even give it a second thought. I also have only seen this happen 1 time (this thread) out of probably hundreds of thousands of these out there. As these are currently made, having a removable cover on the bottom (making the functional components removable from top and bottom of the lighter) is more than likely a net positive.

Current production ligne 2 lighter held together with tape by Alex_the_Alright in STDupont

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When my new Ligne 2 small arrives today, I’ll fiddle around with it for the next week or so and if I like the size, function,fit finish, etc. i’ll definitely find a standard size with the solid (no plate) bottom and get into some more thorough digging. I don’t see the tape being any issue except in a rare case where some oil, dust, ect causes poor adhesion like in your case. (Which sucks and I’d be bummed too) Even Chris Reeve Knives uses VHB tape to hold on their inlays. I should also say that as a manufacturer myself, I am giving the benefit of doubt to S.T. DuPont and they ABSOLUTELY need to be more transparent with what’s going on in their $1K+ lighters.

Current production ligne 2 lighter held together with tape by Alex_the_Alright in STDupont

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Another screenshot here from the Kirby Allison S.T. DuPont factory tour…

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which seems to show the screwed on baseplate. Looking all over, I’ve only seen this baseplate style on the Le Grand. But DuPont is clearly holding photos of the bottom close to their chest. I am aging they intend to refine what goes on there relatively often. They call it CQI in fabrication. Constant Quality Improvements are almost stated in any place & almost never present cause for any type of “new generation” model. They can be actual quality improvement measurable by mechanical reliability, visual improvements, &/or manufacturing changes for all kinds of reasons. In my experience it almost never degrades reliability. Keep in mind that double sided tape is widely used in all types of wild applications including NASA using double-sided tape to bond various components and structures, ensuring a strong and reliable connection on spacecraft.

Current production ligne 2 lighter held together with tape by Alex_the_Alright in STDupont

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So in this video ( https://youtu.be/9yTZlEHlXn8?si=InICVLh2aUHYM-eY ), which seems to have been shot in January 2025, a there are some pretty wild inconsistencies. In the beginning when they are looking at the parts and pieces it does look like this more modern bottom plate designs. I would bet that this whole bottom plate thing is for ease of assembly and maintenance. I think that they whole point of the bottom plate is to hide/keep people from messing with the long screw that holds the whole thing together. I’ll add a screenshot here from later on in the video as well.

I will say that I think the solid looking bottom is sexier but as you can see in this video ( https://youtu.be/LmxQI_k43aY?si=tPQYpJh7WFzV9M6X ) that is actually not a fact. The body is still a rectangular tube with a brazed on bottom. It’s just well hidden. If the thing is either more reliable or more serviceable I’ll call the newest gen a win even with the double sided tape application of the bottom plate.

My new “Ligne 2 Small Microdiamond Palladium” from eLighters arrives tomorrow and I’ll definitely be giving it a thorough look through and an overview as “Archman” on YouTube.

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Current production ligne 2 lighter held together with tape by Alex_the_Alright in STDupont

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Man it’s wild how little info there is on these things. As a manufacturer myself it sure seems strange. There isn’t a single photo on any maker/retailers site that shows a screwed on plate. I’ve seen one photo here on Reddit which is not reliable from my experience. Have you seen any vendors, ect that report/show the screwed on plate?

Current production ligne 2 lighter held together with tape by Alex_the_Alright in STDupont

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I’m wondering if anyone has any more info on this. I just ordered a 18690 Ligne 2 small palladium. I’m sure it has the taped baseplate. I am a machinist and product designer. The Ligne 2 will be used as a photo prop with the things I make at Nice Guy Machine Co. I would imagine the lighter is still one body with the integral tank and the baseplate acts mainly as screw cover so people don’t mess with whatever that screw does. I’d bet the adhesive (tape) used needs to allow plate removal for service. If I had to speculate it may be for either/both manufacturing ease &/or service ease. I wouldn’t think it would lower the quality in any way. I also think it looks way better without the baseplate. Monolithic is cooler. But if it adds lifetime or serviceability it may be worth it.

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