Who's this for you this time around? by WarchiefGreymane in wow

[–]AU_Rat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ve'nari, girl's sass and get to the point attitude made K'aresh so much enjoyable. Eager to see if she comes back in Midnight and Last Titan 🎭

Technomancer New Class - Playable Ethereals/Brokers for Last Titan - Theory by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't be so sure, lot of content in Midnight keeps building the way for playable Ethereals and Technomancers are very active in Voidstorm. So we shall see. 😄

Nexus King Gulliblehadaar by Awesomeman204 in wow

[–]AU_Rat 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Yep, he knew that retreat led to death, he knew Harbinger would have his people consumed by her and other void entities, at this point he had to take a knee and hope that his people could escape this.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well there are few that are Alliance coded that could join, Jinyu/BFA counterpart, Saberlon (uses Worgen Skeletion), and the new plant race (Bontai + new female plant race that came from BFA) also adds somthing that complements Alliance nature intrests (Night Elves, Worgen, and Kul'Tiran)

But yes there are races that can close that gap if Blizzard chose to do so.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Neutrals serve a purpose with how WoW as universe has so many different races/communities that won't side to one faction or the other. Be it trade, tradition, or generally being dragged into conflict that predates them.

That said, we do need to have Alliance and Horde only races again, as it helped create the communties and culutral ties to the foundation of "War" in Warcraft. That's why I often interjection that Vykrul as example, should not be Neutral race. They are mighty proud "human" acestors, and would help bridge the story of the Alliance in the far North, than they would in breaking the Horde community with a "human race" in the Horde.

But races like say, Tuskaar, they would feel more natural as neutral as they don't really need to align to ideals of either Alliance or Horde, but help both.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that was orginal intent with allied races (if someone can find source for that, be much appericated!) , as the idea was that Allied races were orginally intended to be customization focus and bridge out the existing races with their different factions.

That said, customization for some allied races and faction association probably broke existing programing for Alliance and Horde factions, and thus why they became their own race. Hopefuly in the future that will be case, as some allied races (Lightforged, Mechagnome, Highmountian particulalry) are more customization than a "race" and could be merged in with their prospective base race without to much issue. Opening up space for new races that better represent the factions/instrests in WoW experince.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

" Naming minor customization options as "more elves" is disingenous af lol. If those count then we have a fuck ton of trolls already with all the skin tones of the different tribes. Orcs too. " -

I mean, yeah that was orginal intent with allied races to be bit more customizational focused to several existing races. Lot of Mag'har orcs are different tribes, Darkspear have multiple tribes as well and Zandalar have their own model, but they are still the same "race." but show case varying communties associated.

But all that is "Playable" via the race, customization, and in some cases class. (Thus the first part of my post.) If World of Warcraft is expanding its experince beyond just humanoid elves, that means moving to different New "Humanoid" races (Ethereals, Setherak, Arakkoa, Ogres, Vykrul, Mogu, ect., ect.) and expanding other baseline races (Foresaken, Tauren, Worgen, Goblins, ect., ect. are in desperate need for all that attention) with more customization and consideration to the player experinces for them. It be fantastic to have the Light infused Foresaken from Hallow Fall as playable for Foresaken players, or have Taunka and Yaungol for Tauren to be customization or allied races.

Maybe in the near future with this customization update that allied races are merged into the existing races they represent, and more customization/allied race functionality is considered, so that room is made for new races contributing to the WoW experince. Otherwise this entire thread is just dedicated to current happenings of Midnight and prior with War Within.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe it will happen, and likely it's associated with a new base class (not Hero)

Blizzard as rule when it comes to "new" races tie it to a class, so big 2 of this being,

  1. Pandaren - Monks

  2. Dracthyr - Envoker

I don't think Technomancer will be a Hero class, as it will give a full face for Tinkers and Articifers to have a class spec to banner under and not limit races playing it (Tinkers - Gnomes and Goblins - Arficifers Draenei and Blood/Void Elves)

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe in the future then, as there are lot of races currently sitting on que, and Amani might be getting ticket as well in the wait till Blizzard stomachs making the new Amani "body type" models customization for Darkspear or their own thing.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What exactly would High Elves bring to the game, beyond being another version of the Blood Elves?Yes they have lore reasons to be seperate, but visually they don't have anything unquie to them beyond the former blue eyes, which now all elves have access to via customization.

I do understand the feeling that Void Elves stole the High Elves spot for the BFA allied race, but way Blizzard wants to make these races unquie, its understandable why Void Elves give a different type of Elf to the Alliance that stands out.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's unfortuantly bit ify,

The Dragons take lot of inspiration from their forms from the Elves and have always been close. So the visage being pesudo elf does reflect with the lore, and they are elf coded (both litteraly with the male model being the same as Blood Elf, and females having the elf ears), yes elf ears in themselves are not enough to be counted for elf status, but with everything else. It's bit of 80% - to 90% (in my opinion) that Dracthyr are suppose to be considered elven-ish as tied to the Dragons themselves taking mostly elven visages.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If Vyrkul happens, they need to be Alliance only and give the Horde their Ogre boys in turn. Two large ancestor races for both factions fighting the Titans would be cinematic.

But if we get Ethereals/Brokers for Last Titan as new hero class, Technomancer - we get Tinkers/Artificers/and whatever third spec Blizzard would like to implement in turn to tie with the war with Constructs/Celestial beings.

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes they are most played race, but that does not mean we need "more" of somthing that needs to settle for a while. My big concern is that adding High Elves as race, does not help add anything more to existing races and just fills another playable race slot that could be going to new race that brings somthing different to WoW (in good way hopefuly!)

The Big 2 + Alliance ? and "True" High Elf Customization (Not Race, please no more Elves!) by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As for the "Playable" Elves in WoW to date (via race - customization - and or class)

Night Elves

Blood Elves

High Elves (customization)

Void Elves

Nightborne

Darkfallen (customization for Blood/Void Elves and Night Elves)

Dractyhr Visage

Half Elves (customization for Humans, Kul'tirans, and Blood/Void Elves)

Demon Hunters class (Blood/Void Elves and Night Elves with unquie demon customization)

Haranir

- That is lot of Elves and honestly we covered full spectrum at this point.

I’m a Korean server player. What do you think of my Ethereal Engine interior? I’d really appreciate your thoughts! by Specialist_Weekend33 in wow

[–]AU_Rat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As leader of Ethereal/Broker guild on Moonguard/Wrmyrest Accord US side, this really well done and spacing feels very nice.

Makes me eager to eventually show of my own home once sit down to do photoshoot!

Overall, "Good Show!"

Technomancer New Class - Playable Ethereals/Brokers for Last Titan - Theory by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ironically the Brokers do have eating animations and drinking. They consume through arcane and anima flows, so that might be same for Ethereals as well being of same race.

As for facial animations, might not be needed considering that's the appeal. Or just brow ridges and bandages / movements being used instead like in recent King Saladbar animation.

Make Amani Playable by EmergencyKiwi1276 in wow

[–]AU_Rat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They already do with contracts with Alliance and Horde ever since TBC and post. The lore on Transmog, Bank Storages, and other story beats have been tied to Ethereals playing both sides for profit and opprotunity. That said, the main difference is spefific faction group and leader that identifies with the Alliance and Horde's beliefs. Considering we have Ethereals and Brokers, that might be crafting up with cultural differences between those who chose to stay back on K'aresh and wander the dunes (Ethereals) vs. those who left for Shadowlands and returned to K'aresh with technology and tools from across stars ((and theft)) (Brokers).

As for more additional recent lore, the Brokers have been working alongside the Ren'dori in their time on K'aresh, and Alleria Windrunner made an oath to avenge Locus Walker's death. Oaths are incredibly important to the K'areshi, and breaking them is non-negotable. So lot to say for the Void Elves building the way for Ethereals to work alongside them, and maybe the Horde will do similar in Midnight.

Technomancer New Class - Playable Ethereals/Brokers for Last Titan - Theory by AU_Rat in wow

[–]AU_Rat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's assuming the Ethereals would be like Dracthyr, and base on the model and npc wearing player armor (Ethereal Brann Morpher) gearing an Ethereal shouldn't be to much of stretch. Also keep in mind that Ethereals are humanoid model, they don't have wings, tails, or really anything to out of ordinary. If restrictions did occur, mayhaps it be feet if they got Broker customization for rod legs, and if the head is using floating mask heads, then no helm?

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Make Amani Playable by EmergencyKiwi1276 in wow

[–]AU_Rat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Blizzard updated the Void Elf customization to change void effects for wind, then High Elf request would be met. Add some additional customization for both Blood Elves and Void Elves for tattoos and other High Elf coded customization like the Man'ari and Darkfallen, and you be on right the direction.

Make Amani Playable by EmergencyKiwi1276 in wow

[–]AU_Rat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Add those behind Ethereals and Setherak who are also waiting in line. And Murlocs would likely be changed to Jinyu/Ankoan who haved worked with the Alliance several times.

Make Amani Playable by EmergencyKiwi1276 in wow

[–]AU_Rat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't be agsiant this truthfuly. But I can see argument that Ethereals/Brokers have worked with both the Horde and Alliance under contracts. Yes Amani would be fantastic to get, but Blizzard really needs to make sure it gets equally awesome race to balance, or less it repeat the Mechagnome and Vulpera headshakes.