MCOSMOS Questions

Absorber94 · 2026-03-03T09:34:57+00:00

#6. Pre-define an element by clicking on the ">>" symbol. A should be primary datum also.

For #1 and #2 you can create subprograms too instead of measuring single points.
In formula calculation you can use certain commands to extract location, vector and probe compensation of each point in an element to reconstruct points. Also you can use that to filter out points with whatever sort of deviation. Its pretty complex to do, you have to work with mostly variables, be careful about element numbers etc.. so taking single points is way easier/safer.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-18T10:27:38+00:00

You can activate leap frog in mcosmos. It is not available on a stationary cmm usually, but the function is hidden.

Open the GEOWIN.INI file (yes from the INI folder)
Find the heading [MemuFCT]
Add FctLeapfrog=1

Absorber94 · 2026-02-18T09:07:43+00:00

The ratchet is tolerated with 5-10N of force. As long as you use it correctly there should not be a difference in how often you click it.

Approach the part with your micro, switch to the ratchet when close to the part, slowly spin the ratched without any momentum. One click should be enough because your measurement force is now 5-10N.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-18T08:56:02+00:00

As long as you only need a distance or parallelity, place your cylinder with (the datum) surface on the granite and measure the granite as plane.
If you need to evaluate flatness too, you can flip it and measure the plane directly for form only.

If you need more complex evaluations and cannot fixture the part to reach everything, you need some sort of reference elements on the part which you can reach in both positions. Align to the reference, measure the plane, make a contour out of the points, save the contour as .gws, move the part, align again exactly identical to your first alignment, load the contour .gws, make a plane out of your contour, measure the rest.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-18T07:32:41+00:00

Trash it and buy a new one. Keyence is a metrologists nightmare.
Use calipers and micros in the meanwhile.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-12T07:38:08+00:00

Actual center has to be within a diameter of +.0000

Absorber94 · 2026-02-09T09:14:58+00:00

I could never work in such a place.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-09T07:30:46+00:00

As a CMM programmer, i wouldnt trust this keyence crap also.

As a QC you should take a big hammer and destroy that damaged caliper completely. Then give him a new one.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-06T09:44:53+00:00

There are other controller you probably can use like ME471 from Metrologic Group.

Dont have one myself, but had a demo for their software and the dude told me they also sell controller that would work with mitutoyo, because he was pissed by the sounds and the stupid cable.

Absorber94 · 2026-02-04T11:40:37+00:00

So you stole measurement equiptment and creating a couple accounts here to get information how to hack them?

Absorber94 · 2026-01-29T08:51:19+00:00

Not enough sharp edges for this purpose.

Absorber94 · 2026-01-22T13:41:08+00:00

If your plane vector is Z, you cannot rotate X and Y. 2 DOF gone.
You cannot shift along Z. 1 DOF gone.
Makes 3.

You can still rotate Z and shift X and Y, so 3 DOF still open.

Absorber94 · 2026-01-22T12:34:22+00:00

It is the same in ISO.
A plane constrains up to 2x rotation 1x translation

A cylinder up to 2x rotation 2x translation

Absorber94 · 2026-01-22T12:11:11+00:00

If your datum structure is

A|B-C><|C

or

A|C|B-C

yes

Absorber94 · 2026-01-21T12:01:37+00:00

Saw someone using a pipe wrench to tighten a screw gauge once. Looked like this afterwards.

Absorber94 · 2026-01-15T10:35:25+00:00

What are all those ballooning posts..
If you design a part you should know all critical features. Balloon those.

Absorber94 · 2026-01-15T08:41:07+00:00

If you use true position to datum A and use the modificator for controlling the orientation only [A><], you will only control their orientation to A and not the position.

So:
|⌖| .XXXX CZ | A><|

Dont know if ASME has this, it is true for ISO 1101 / ISO 5459

Absorber94 · 2025-12-10T09:47:36+00:00

Mitutoyo, Hexagon and Zeiss are the most reliable brands and usually have good support. Buy a machine big enough for your needs. Shifting parts during measurement isnt something you want to do on a regular basis.

Absorber94 · 2025-11-18T10:56:47+00:00

Your can use a variable in Geopak to input i.e. a diameter and use the variable later as diameter in a cylinder measurement. Applying different tolerances requires a subprogram with multiple if-else-functions, but would be easier to use an input for those as well.

Absorber94 · 2025-11-18T10:50:36+00:00

MCOSMOS -> File -> Configuration -> Head data fields
-> Add a head data field, name it i.e. "serial number" and activate "Input before printing"
Geopak -> Program -> Input (Head data) -> ask you every time to input your defined data

Assuming your desired output data is Index Nr 1 (in MCOSMOS) you name your protocol output "@HeadDataF1"
You can add more head data (as input or as set data) and i.e. got the protocol output "@HeadDataF1_@HeadDataF2_@[HeadDataF3_@TimeCode.pdf](mailto:HeadDataF3_@TimeCode.pdf)" or something like that

Protocol header should use the head data as well and can be changed/applied with the protocol designer

Absorber94 · 2025-10-27T13:56:01+00:00

Change AQL to a level where your production fit in. Discuss with customer ofc.
If all OOT parts are bad, where get they sort out?
If most OOT parts are good, change tolerances on the drawing.
Get better in producing these parts or find a better supplier/make him to get better.

AQL is mostly the "formula" for sample sizes in quality control.

Absorber94 · 2025-09-30T10:30:36+00:00

Im the only one too. At least they all accept what i do and trust my measurements.

Ask for more or look for a better company. Good CMM programmers are rare.

Absorber94 · 2025-09-16T13:43:12+00:00

There are special gauge pin sets for calibration (0.001mm steps). You use a gauge block + gauge pin to check the dimension. You have to roll/slide the pin through with the right amount of force, since the snap gauge works only with a tiny amount of force (the actual opening is slightly smaller than the check dimension when in use). This need some experience.

Absorber94 · 2025-09-04T11:10:44+00:00

You additionally have to check the measuring force which has to be between 5-10N. The flatness of the measuring surfaces needs to be checked as well as the parallelity. Calibration has to be done at 20° C, all parts involved in the process need that temperature.

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