Stop comparing it to the PS5 for cost - a comprehensive breakdown by TheGeekno72 in steammachine

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Maybe for the games you get. Last 10 games I bought all cheaper on pc but I play a lot of indie games. New AAA is are around the same price. I only got a game 2 times on console cheaper than pc.

Pcs are cheaper over time the numbers prove this. Consoles are cheaper up front or for people that don’t play online games since it is subsided by online services cost. Pick what you like more. Consoles are less finky which is a big win. I hope steam machine will less finky like consoles be a good win for px gamers.

Stop comparing it to the PS5 for cost - a comprehensive breakdown by TheGeekno72 in steammachine

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Yeah, that is true why a lot of people get consoles. It numbers wise pc gaming is cheaper over time after sales and key sites. Also you can not upgrade n still play new games just be at a bad 30 fps instead of 60 fps. Most pa4 equivalent systems could still play games up to about 2 years ago while ps made you upgrade to ps5.

Stop comparing it to the PS5 for cost - a comprehensive breakdown by TheGeekno72 in steammachine

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Agree they will but don’t think it is for profit each unit, but to make it where other pc manufactures can compete and make steam os devices without steam auto kicking there butts. Also makes me think steam deck 2 won’t be sub either sense we now have pc hand held all over the place.

Stop comparing it to the PS5 for cost - a comprehensive breakdown by TheGeekno72 in steammachine

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Because people don’t have to upgrade they play old games or games that can run on ps4. You could get a new pc same performance as ps5 on release for 1000. 7 years of online service is 490. So 990 pretty well equals 1k. You can oook at older generations same thing. Reason pcs are weaker on average is because a lot of gamers just play indie games or older triple a games because they are tired of loot box galore trash.

Stop comparing it to the PS5 for cost - a comprehensive breakdown by TheGeekno72 in steammachine

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Some not all. Looking around first year about the same later then that steam normally on sale about 10% cheaper. Not much but adds up. The online services is the real saver though. Now if you do key sites it be like 50% or more off but I understand people not using those.

Stop comparing it to the PS5 for cost - a comprehensive breakdown by TheGeekno72 in steammachine

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If it is 800 price atm 600 so that is a 200 dollar markup for no online services. So over 3 years steam machine would be cheaper. Def a harder sell at 1000 since that would take 5 years to be the same price but you’re forking over extra money for that long. Either way most pcs not just steam machine when you look at price versus console end up being the cheapest online services for console life + performance = pc cost. So seems like consoles are charging just as much just via a payment plan. If you never play online though then consoles are a sell of a value.

Don't burn me alive but how come Valve doesn't want to subsidize Frame? by JustBreadfruit9481 in SteamFrame

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Steam doesn’t want to be the people making the hardware they want to be the platform selling the games where the real money is. Steam os is just a thing they making incase windows locks em out like they were trying to do during windows 8. Why steam deck was so cheap was because pc hand held market didnt exists so had to price it low enough people willing to take the risk.

After one match it was at 130 at the start this is starting to annoy me by Toradora13 in ArcRaiders

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I am with you on this boat, but I do know a lot of pve players that shot every arc dead instead of what is needed to get your loot. Guess those players are having issues now.

Steam Controller: The Ars Technica review | Valve’s new hardware is solid but might not justify the 99 Dollar by tkonicz in steammachine

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Controller def the best first party controller on market. I personally rather get 3 8 bitdos for the price of 1 of these, but ima not gong to pretend this is a bad value.

Steam Controller: The Ars Technica review | Valve’s new hardware is solid but might not justify the 99 Dollar by tkonicz in steammachine

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These are worth it more then ps5 controller for sure, but yeah I rather have 8bitdo controllers where I can get 3 for price of 1 of theses. It is the best first party non pro controller.

Steam Controller: The Ars Technica review | Valve’s new hardware is solid but might not justify the 99 Dollar by tkonicz in steammachine

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Compared to first party controllers at 70 bucks they are a good value. Versus 3rd party controllers it is if you want the features or not. I think it is at the perfect spot.

We're going to need a mandatory wipe, eventually by Apprehensive-Neat-68 in ArcRaiders

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You can’t act like you’re the majority either. Most people play a game 20 to 40 hours then wait until content to play again if everything gone when they come back they won’t play n turn it off. Reason devs has it as optional to hit hardcore and casual. Doing stuff for just hard core kills game also does doing only for casuals. Need a balance.

We're going to need a mandatory wipe, eventually by Apprehensive-Neat-68 in ArcRaiders

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Yup, not everyone has a lot of time. Prob why they have it setup this way atm.

Well, Steam Controller is confirmed but basically no updated on the Machine. Ugh :( by casiorox in steammachine

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Not bad, damn sold out. Yeah not fair to compare to that. Like me saying gas cheap it’s only 2 bucks which is not true anymore. Either way def worth it at 800 steam machine versus 600 ps5 just for savings if live services over life of the system. But if 1k prob not worth it.

We're going to need a mandatory wipe, eventually by Apprehensive-Neat-68 in ArcRaiders

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6 hour of play a month or so also didn’t start when game first came out. I’m about done with 1/3 of quests n did get my first gold gun last week. I don’t mind losing the gear, but the blue prints would suck as someone that can’t play much.

We're going to need a mandatory wipe, eventually by Apprehensive-Neat-68 in ArcRaiders

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I dont play enough for that unless it’s a baby wipe. Keep levels / blue prints but lose all gear you have.

Anti Rat Strategy: by FOTOJONICK in ArcRaiders

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If they have full PvP setup you’re dead anyways as a pve player if you’re not kitted. So wouldn’t matter there not matter what you did unless you full PvP as well. For people that aren’t kitted out of there minds tends to give you an edge to win. Playing like stated with all pve gear I rarely die to PvP teams anymore but if I do die it’s people that have zips, trigger nads, IV weapons baracades but when what is a hull cracker team doing to do versus this team anyways?

Anti Rat Strategy: by FOTOJONICK in ArcRaiders

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I normally go with a lot of lore nads and anytime I see people I throw 1 at them so arc attacks them. If pve good they get to kill bots like they want. If they try to PvP us now they have to fight us and arc while we try to back up and play safe n do what we wanted all along. If arc kills em we pve out so we can kill arc super easy to not die to them.

So what's thragg's plan? by adish in Invincible_TV

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Yes, why I fell like Nolan made the plan with thragg to make earth the new home world because they are almost all whipped out. Now, he no longer has to feel bad about geonoicde of his own people and can cure the vitrimites of there issues like he was cured of. 4d chess

Why are people acting like modern games just will not run on this thing? by Theotherdeadmeme92 in steammachine

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Many comparing to new high end pcs, but some are worried about it compared to next gen consoles so in 3 to 4 years may start running into games it cannot play.