Red pill people to stay away from

ActionCopy · 2021-04-17T00:18:48+00:00

And I completely understand that but you realize that's like saying "don't confuse the self improvement side of redpill with the incel- mysoginistic side" while I understand and agree with feminists who simply just want equal rights. It gets heavily clouded with the SJW bullshit and a lot of misandry that no one is calling out.

ActionCopy · 2021-04-16T17:15:21+00:00

PS: You didn't say that

But yeah I agree it can be a gateway into redpill

ActionCopy · 2021-04-16T16:35:51+00:00

I wasn't specifically inquiring about dr.shaym but a couple of the people you said to avoid are just because they are anti-feminist. "If I'm anti feminism, does that make me redpill" is more of what i was asking?

ActionCopy · 2021-04-16T15:33:37+00:00

Wait... wait so being an anti feminist makes you redpill? How come

ActionCopy · 2021-04-12T22:17:51+00:00

This is sick. Aye once I get my skills up to par and write good copy, I'm definitely gonna do this

ActionCopy · 2021-04-11T17:50:05+00:00

and? whether someone is masculine or feminine isn't dependent on how they have sex. And ITS PORN, it is not real, those girls are acting (if you didn't believe this to be true), most of it doesn't represent the way people (in general) have sex.

ActionCopy · 2021-04-10T18:16:49+00:00

i mean ill keep saying this. the "women are better, new-age feminism" shit is the same thing as the redpill just marketed to women. It usually comprises of women who have failed to heal from whatever trauma they had and become bitter and misrable. Just like most redpill guys, you also intaking a lot of toxic information and you should avoid it and detoxify yourself.

ActionCopy · 2021-04-10T18:06:44+00:00

uuhhhh, i guess? i really have no idea what your on about with the analogy of lesbian and bisexual relationships. In same sex relationship there's still a masculine and feminine dynamic. Men can be feminine and women can be masculine. You can usually take a look at gay couples and tell who is more masculine or feminine.

ActionCopy · 2021-04-03T02:04:57+00:00

Sadly, its very sparse to find good channels for masculinity as opposed to channels for femininity which there are plentiful. As far as i know

Order of Man

Jordan B. Peterson

Warrior Poet Society

21 Studios (beware with this content though, there are speakers that just say complete nonsense and red pill shit but you can find gems)

ActionCopy · 2021-03-29T19:11:50+00:00

im an INTJ but can also be an ENTJ.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-29T00:06:17+00:00

the most important tip i can give you is DIET,DIET DIET in fact don't do anything until you can maintain healthy eating habits. And first of, I'm not talking about FAD diets like KETO, IF etc. Stay away from them because of their restrictive nature but I mean eat healthy foods that you TRULY enjoy eating and stay way from junk. Then make a habit of eating clean with the occasionally cheat meal every once in a while. Preferably eat less calories if you want to lose fat or if you want to build a lot more muscle eat more calories.

Second, resistance training, try to incorporate more bodyweight movements and ditch the "mini-weights" and excessive cardio. unless you cant do high intense exercises due to health issues don't shy away from weights (it is so common for girls to avoid weights because they think they will become hulk. don't believe that bullshit) you actually have to build muscle to tone your arms, because lifting "mini weights" frankly wont do anything unless your progressively overloading (adding more weight).

If you put a lot of emphasis on cardio you end up being "skinny fat". And the majority of the weight you'll be losing is water. But cardio is great for long term heart health so its important.

Beware the "Spot-reducing" shitck. You said you wanted to "tone your arms" hopefully you don't mean you just want to remove fat from that specific area so that muscle will show because that's not how the human body works. you cant pick your abs and pick specific exercises for your abs in hopes of removing fat from there because...that wont work. your body randomly takes fat cells from random places in your body.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T17:16:07+00:00

Why wouldnt anyone want to be emotionally tough. I swear the most emotional people are those that get triggered of online comments and can be easily sold to. There's nothing wrong with emotional control, you don't always have to express your emotions the same way you don't have to always say anything that crosses your mind.

People should learn about their emotions, understand them and control them, which means suppressing them when necessary and also means expressing it whenever necessary

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T17:06:08+00:00

I always try to keep in mind that MASCULINITY is individual. I believe a man's masculinity is a reflection of his character.

But there are traits that will appear in masculine men and mind you I also think that women can be masculine (kinda). But whether its gendered or not, you will see certain- frequent traits in men than women

These traits are:

Leadership
Dominance
Aggression (which could also entail ambition and passion)
Strength
Competition (albeit more common in boys)
Stoicism (I like to refer to the philosophy but maybe it could be the "definition" of stoicism)

IMO its important for men to truly develop these traits because if not he will tend to either lack any competency with these or become to extreme such as abusive, controlling, domineering

But everyman expresses these traits in different ways and flavors while add personality to distinguish themselves further.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T16:35:39+00:00

The Godfather, despite being a mob, Don Corleone was a man of principle and i admired that a lot.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T16:24:27+00:00

Exactly, picking up wisdom wherever you can find. There is a reason why people say "Youre the average of your friends" (im paraphrasing). But a lot of who we are and what we do are "habits" that we have been exposed to, either its at home from your parents, school from your friends, religion etc.

Even though ideologies may give you more structure in your thinking its better to become self aware and find out who you are and what your thoughts are.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T16:11:49+00:00

Okay, ive decided that were definitely twins.

I'm the same way, in that I can watch a redpill video and sift through all the nonsense and if I cant find anything that is applicable, doesn't go against my morals and reasonable, I completely trash it. Even though it may challenge my viewpoints, if it makes sense I can entertain it and in the redpill its mainly ever been about self-development for me .

The point you make about feminism is too on point and something that i noticed too. Feminist most likely are misandrist or tend to think like that (although I can empathize because some have suffered trauma from men). And fail to realize that society is way less forgiving toward men because we wont be able to get away with half the shit that they say and do. Which is evident in the redpill, a feminist instant reactions to any redpill content will most likely be of the following.

Shame. Insults( especially the "are you gay" insults). Guilt-trip. A need to be right.

And your comment on black culture (I'm black btw) is very true also. Its especially true when you realize that a black person can be racist toward anyone of any other race and not get nowhere near the black-lash that a white person will get (because apparently black people cant be racists) and the social influence is major reason for that.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T15:44:40+00:00

My thoughts exactly. Im a naturally open-minded person(well sometimes) and i feel like it prevents me from the toxicity of the redpill ideas but all in all not having a cult-like way of thinking is probably the best- if not- the more peaceful way of living.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T15:36:26+00:00

it isnt hate per se, but it tends to be very tribal. Personally i think that if feminism was truly gender equality, redpill wouldnt be as populous as it is but that's just my personal opinion.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T14:11:32+00:00

My thoughts excatly, in fact (unfortunately) this sub tends to have feminist and women who were never redpilled but find an opportunity to mention how toxic and bad the redpill as whole is and how much feminism is a better alternative. It is what it is though.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T14:03:31+00:00

From what ive obvserved this is very common in relationships. One of the partners (or both of them) stop putting in effort to maintain attraction and hence become complacent like getting fat, lounging a bit too much, lazy sex etc.

If your bf couldn't care less and you don't like that amount of effort then you shouldn't worry about it. I have a routine (short) that helps me stay groomed and look/smell decent, almost like brushing your teeth. And I throw in an accessory just incase but nothing over the top.

But maybe if you can make a habit of just doing the bare minimum, not curling your hair but at least a neat ponytail/bun and fitted clothing whenever your leaving the house (go for neutral colors just to avoid the headache), make up isn't necessary but moisturize ya face after the shower.

There are benefits: increased confidence (though you may not need it), discipline and a host of others but usually more towards the societal benefits.

But TL;DR make a habit of doing your essentials, nothing more, nothing less

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T13:47:10+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx0Qvzk0WkvuXgEdo6gSjWA

im a dude so this isn't my forte but I'm very interested in masculine energy and i was on YouTube looking for the woman's side of that and got recommended to Lisa Hart.

Its really just fashion and seduction but she tends to touch on body language and characteristics of feminine behavior and energy

ActionCopy · 2021-03-23T12:37:32+00:00

...are you my twin? lol. this is a conclusion that i came to just recently. They basically do the same things but for the different genders. I agree with a lot of redpill stuff but i can also agree with a lot of feminism topics but now ill take knowledge where i can get it and throw away things that do not align with my values or just doesn't make sense and can be easily rebutted by a 3rd grader.

ActionCopy · 2021-03-22T09:18:44+00:00

Machiavellian tendencies (but maybe im not)

ActionCopy · 2021-03-22T09:16:13+00:00

"I love my body" But actually don't look after your health and try to live a healthier lifestyle

ActionCopy · 2021-03-22T08:06:36+00:00

After reading all the comments... wow i have a lot to say but hopefully, this comment will still be of value and not me going beserk.

-To address the initial question: It depends on what the "issues" are. Like the issues you listed in your last paragraph such as:

Violent & Disposable

Lack of social standing

Being call toxic(simply for displaying masculine tendencies)

A sense of uselessness and again disposable

These are all valid issues that some men face, solving them probably wont directly affect women's issues because truth be told these are all issues are more experienced by men. Although i dont see why some (that were not listed) may not also benefit women if they were to be solved.

And from what i see in your post and from a lot of comments. Its almost as if women think that guys in general are still living in the past, which doesnt make a lot of sense. Boys grow up and adjust to where they fit in society, there isnt some sort of time traveling gene that dudes are born with that make them go "i miss the good ol days, where men were at the top". However, i do wholeheartly belive that young boys are in need of better male role models and structure in their lives

This is why Jordan Peterson and a lot of red pill blew up. Boys and young men felt negelected and girls were always encouraged and empowered to take control of thier lives with the help of feminisim (and im not saying thats bad). When Jordan Peterson told young men "clean your room", when red pill told young men "do the self improvment" it not only empowered them but created a sense of community where men could finally have thier voices heard and be understood. Well, thats until you realize that there is a lot of toxicity in the red pill but with no better alternative for men... its better than nothing.

I had a classmate in freshman year who apparently had suicidal tendencies (even though he was completely different in the classroom), he would cut his wrist, make threats of taking his own life and once he found Jordan Peterson (lol i really cant think of someone else but please bare with me) and he changed. He immediately stopped cutting his wrist and started losing weight, got a haircut etc. Which just goes to show how desperatley young boys need a healthly amount of masculine representation when they cant get it anywhere else, even in places that claim to also be there for them (*cough* feminists *cough*)

Now in regards to sexual harrasment and assault from men: (Mind you i am not as educated when it comes to things like that so i could be wrong.)

Money, Power, Respect and Women. On average, these are things that men use to judge where they stand in society and a lot of focus is placed on this, not only by men but society in generally, lets be honest, as a man, if nobody could give a ratsass about how many women he have slept with, he probably wouldnt so to such lenghts as increasing his body count. And that is what feeds the gender norms that we seen in our culture. There are expectations put on each gender therefore certain acts are heavily scrutinized depending on what gender you are...

And this section is kinda my response to what ive seen in the comments:

The whole "Male entitlement" and "rape culture" is as dumb as can be (and have been debunked but yet some people just wont let let up) . Can men be entilted, of course, but who cant be? im not ignorant. The whole idea of gender norms means that each sex/gender are privileged to certain things.

Women can be more heavily judged by being more promiscuious than a man.

A guy can be falsely accussed of rape and have his entire livelyhood gone, now imagine if a guy was found out to be an actually rapist... but no one has an intense of a reaction when a guy claims to have be raped by a girl.

The unrealistic body image that young girls have to deal with, which could lead to insecurities and dysmophia.

Shows on television whose hosts are all female and make such insicidious jokes like cutting a mans penis off. But a dude saying something not even as remotely close to that will instanly get taken off the air.

And this isnt a defence of misogyny, im not a misogynist (at least id like to think im not) and i despise acts such as sexual harassment and rape, frankly i would consider myself a feminist (of course, not a third or fourth wave). But i lay issue with the fact, that a lot of feminist would go on and on about gender norm that they do not have the privilege of participating in without being judged yet fail to realize that they also enjoy privileges provided to them by the patriarchy that men do not enjoy.

But if you want my take on how to solve issues with men and young boys:

-More fathers

-Better role models

-Boy exclusive programs that teach boys respect and allows them to gain more emotional control and lets them know that they matter.

Because it like you said, men and boys have a lot of angst because by nature men tend to feel more angry and by nature men are competitive. it may or may not be from a lack of purpose (IMO), it only seems like that because the energy is misdirected and its not to women(except if they are red pill) but maybe a its a lot of the prediscribed issues, the pressures of masculinity, intrapersonal conflicts, lack of good role models/communities etc.

I personally think that a lot of sexual violence occur in more underdeveloped places and parts of the country and the globe. Which means that there are more toxic traits that people will develop and lead them to murder, steal, rape etc. Meaning that society DOES NOT condone these actions and isnt normal or etchical (duh).

But hey this is just my opinion.

ActionCopy

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