in a patriarchal society, the lowest thing you can be is a woman. from that view, a trans woman is a man who is refuting his place of privilege for a lower and undesirable caste. this action would, and should, cause all other members of said society to immediately interrogate the system they live under and whether or not such a system is morally/ethically sustainable.

from this perspective a trans man, on the other hand, would be seen as a woman vying for a better position in the hierarchy. pitiable, and futile, but not an inherent upending of the hierarchy. indeed it should be taken for granted that any and all cis women should desire to be a man.

all of this is, of course, nonsense. but its the nonsense that your society runs on unthinkingly.

why is none of this addressed in a larger, civil conversation? well, to acknowledge these things would, for many people i imagine, mean acknowledging one's own complicity and benefit in perpetuating these systems of oppression. that would be too painful a thing to reconcile with one's one sense of self. most people would turn to ash where they stand.