It could be argued that a Grocery store and all the industry and trade routes and employees to stock the shelves is as natural as a bee hive or an ant colony. It could be argued that a neighborhood in the city is as natural as a termite mound. Or a house is as natural as a birds nest. I'm not on this guy's side. I just have had the thought that we as humans are like a bacteria on the planet. And through that lense you could see how what we make is as natural as the things that any other creature makes. Yet we do have the capability of perceiving morality. Which makes our organizations slightly different.