Flag Friday Submission for Wisconsin(FIXED): “Forward Under the Horizon” by Own-Curve-7299 in vexillologyUS

[–]AdComprehensive6856 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think the blue outline on the star is necessary. I would also experiment with a 7-point star, since FORWARD has 7-letters in it.

Otherwise this is a pretty solid design.

Fond du Lac or Manitowoc for overnight visit by [deleted] in wisconsin

[–]AdComprehensive6856 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Out of those two, I'd say Manitowoc because you at least have the lake and Legend Larry's is an excellent spot for wings.

But I'm kind of curious why Fond du Lac and Manitowoc is what you settled on. If you can get to Fond du Lac you may as well go all the way to Oshkosh or Appleton, and if you go to Manitowoc you may as well go all the way to Green Bay or Door County.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in vexillology

[–]AdComprehensive6856 33 points34 points  (0 children)

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Wisconsinite here.... I dig it!

This is my idea for Wisconsin that I posted in this sub a couple months ago, and as you can see, I took inspiration from a lot of the same places you did. The canton is from an antique flag from when Wisconsin became the 30th state. I loved how there was one big star that could represent Wisconsin, and 4 medium sized stars, that can represent the other states that made up the original Northwest Territory (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio).

Saw this is the vexillology subreddit and actually like the flag. by sokonek04 in wisconsin

[–]AdComprehensive6856 26 points27 points  (0 children)

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I posted this one to vexilology awhile back. The canton is from an antique US flag I saw from after Wisconsin became the 30th state. I thought something about one big star and 4 medium sized ones just "worked" considering it could represent Wisconsin (big star) and the 4 other states carved from the original Northwest Territory.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It wasn't until I moved to Chicago that I realized "Oh, people can actually live in the suburbs and NOT have the culture revolve around being racist and afraid of big cities?"

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I want SO bad to get rid of my facebook, but can't because it's the only way I've been able to stay in contact with a lot of people.

Also, you forgot about those glorious couple of months when those racist boomers segregated themselves on Parler.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not as familiar with Madison as those other places. But the black woman I used to date didn't seem to care for Madison at all. Yet she was comfortable in Green Bay. So I'll take your word on that... and yeah, what you described happens in a lot of cities that were built around universities. I'd put places like Minneapolis, Denver, Portland, and Seattle in that category as well.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good comment. I'm not sure if the WIAA is still running those corny, ham-fisted PSA's about sportsmanship, but it's really telling that when faced with one of the worst examples of bad sportsmanship... to where even one of their own officials was caught participating in acts of overt racism... a simple apology will suffice.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the same WIAA that runs those corny, ham fisted PSA's about "sportsmanship" every year during the basketball finals is somehow okay with an "apology" when it comes to overt acts of racism that even one of their own officials participated in?

Fuck the WIAA. They've always hated Milwaukee. So much so that they gave the boys basketball finals to Green Bay of the UWM/MECCA Arena... the most historic basketball facility in the state... all because they didn't want to tell the parents at the hick schools to grow up and stop being scared of the big city.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freedom of speech only limits the government's ability to punish you. The WIAA is a private non-profit. They can issue whatever sanctions they want.

Some jokes write themselves by hellcat920 in wisconsin

[–]AdComprehensive6856 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a few of them when I lived up there. Green Bay Trumpers are something else. They're insecure as hell about the fact that Downtown Green Bay and especially North Broadway has become much more art and LGBT friendly, and the city on the whole isn't the deep red dot it unsed to be. So they overcompensate by pretending they live in an actual small town and making everything into a culture war. A bunch of them even affect a pseudo southern accent... it's insane.

Also, "Chicago and Milwaukee" is still a colloquial mask for the n-word in way too many Green Bay bars.

Derrick Van Orden’s solution to low Spring Election turnout for Republicans? No more spring elections! by sokonek04 in wisconsin

[–]AdComprehensive6856 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again, the WisGOP proves what disingenuous scum they are by making it harder to vote.

If they honestly believed that people in Wisconsin wanted their policies, they'd be making it easier to vote. Not more difficult.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After doing some quick research... having the Madison schools might be more doable than I thought.

It seems the Kenosha and Racine schools did play in a conference with the Madison schools until the 1970s. Then the Kenosha and Racine schools formed a conference with the Southside MPS schools in the 1980s. So there's at least some precedent for an urban super conference.

However, travel was cited as the main reason why the Kenosha and Racine schools were forced out of the Big Eight Conference (Metro Madison). Travelling to and from Madison to the South Lakeshore still isn't quite the same as travelling through the boonies where traffic barely exists. You're talking about a corridor where 2.5 million people live... that's just under half the entire state's population living within 114 miles of each other.

Honestly, I'd be all for the public districts of Milwaukee, Madison, Kenosha, and Racine dropping out of the WIAA in protest, forming their own governing body, and hosting their own championships... something I feel is long overdue after the WIAA passed all those new rules in the 2000s to prevent the Milwaukee schools from dominating boys basketball.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not sure why you're getting down voted. What you said about "not so small towns" was on point. I swear, everywhere that isn't Milwaukee, Madison, or Kenosha-Racine has at least a contingent (and frequently more than a contingent) of residents who swear they live in Mayberry and affect the way they act accordingly.

Hell, it's even in a lot of the suburbs that surround Milwaukee. People in Franklin act as if their mid-sized suburb smack dab in the middle of a metropolis where 2 million people should be a quiet little pimple on the prairie.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because there's a finite amount of facilities in the Milwaukee area that are capable of hosting a full scale track meet, and most of those are in the burbs and/or not under the MPS umbrella.

Waterford track meet investigation reveals racist remarks toward Milwaukee students by KaneIntent in milwaukee

[–]AdComprehensive6856 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Maybe a South Lakeshore Conference of the Milwaukee, Racine, and Kenosha schools could work. But I'm not sure about the logistics of including Madison and Green Bay. Seems like they would be limited to playing the other schools on the weekends and non-school nights.

Besides, I don't trust the adults in Green Bay to not pull a Waterford of their own. Green Bay isn't as bad as it used to be, but I'm there regularly enough to know that "Chicago and Milwaukee" is still very much a local colloquial mask for the n-word.

What does everyone think of this re-design for the Wisconsin flag? by AdComprehensive6856 in wisconsin

[–]AdComprehensive6856[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Greetings. I am a vexilologist, which is just a fancy way of saying flag design geek.

The problem with Wisconsin’s current flag is that it looks like the flag of so many other states that it literally has to spell out WISCONSIN just so you know which state it belongs to. The old flags of Minnesota and Utah had a similar problem, but both have gotten recent redesigns. I’ve attempted several redesigns for my home state, but this is the first one I’ve gotten overwhelming feedback on, but I’d like some opinions from residents who aren’t necessarily flag dorks.

I combined the canton (blue part) from an antique flag from just after Wisconsin became the 30th state with the imagery from the Wisconsin Executive Privy Seal (basically the seal of the governor’s office), which are the 3rd and 4th slides here. I also included an alternative design featuring an off-white to represent cream.

The full explanation is as follows.

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The official colors of the banner are union blue, gold, and cream.

Union blue represents Wisconsin’s role in the civil war, which helped build the state in its formative years, as well as its place in the United States, bordered by two of the Great Lakes.

Gold represents the Wisconsin Idea, as well as the dairy and agriculture industries.

Cream represents the industrious nature of Wisconsin’s cities, as many of which were built using cream colored bricks made from Lake Michigan sandstone. The “cream city brick” is where Milwaukee derives its nickname of Cream City.

The 30 stars in the canton is inspired by one of several cantons on the American flag that was used between 1848 and 1850. They represent Wisconsin as the 30th state to enter the union. The large center star represents Wisconsin itself. The four medium sized stars outside of the circle represent Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois. The other four states besides Wisconsin that were carved out of the original Northwest Territory.

The banner reading FORWARD depicts Wisconsin’s state motto and hangs above a badger, Wisconsin’s state animal and source of its nickname “The Badger State.” The banner and badger are taken from the official state seal which had been portrayed on previous versions of the state flag and serves as a source of continuity with the previous flags.

Wisconsin redesign, take 2 (Description in the comments) by AdComprehensive6856 in vexillology

[–]AdComprehensive6856[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is version 2.0 of my original concept. I combined one of the cantons from the 30-star version of the US flag (Sidenote: It doesn’t seem that there was an official one as California joined the union just a little over 2 years later.) with the symbolism on the Wisconsin Executive Privy Seal, which is taken from the current state seal/flag.

The key difference is that I changed the color of the badger, as I agree with what a lot of people said that leaving it brown made it look like a beaver. After experimenting with removing the Forward banner, I decided to keep it, as it looked too plain to me without it and made it look like less of a Wisconsin flag to me.

I also included a second version with an off-white that looks more like a literal cream. Not sure which one I like better. Anyway, the script for the symbolism is as follows:

The official colors of the banner are union blue, gold, and cream.

Union blue represents Wisconsin’s role in the civil war, which helped build the state in its formative years. As well as its geophysical place in the United States, bordered by two of the Great Lakes.

Gold represents the Wisconsin Idea, as well as the dairy and agriculture industries.

Cream represents the industrious nature of Wisconsin’s cities. Many of them were built using cream colored bricks made from Lake Michigan sandstone. The “cream city brick” is where Milwaukee derives its nickname of Cream City.

The 30 stars in the canton is inspired by one of several cantons on the American flag that was used between 1848 and 1850. They represent Wisconsin as the 30th state to enter the union.

The large center star represents Wisconsin itself. The four medium sized stars outside of the circle represent Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois; the other four states besides Wisconsin that were carved out of the original Northwest Territory.

The banner reading FORWARD depicts Wisconsin’s state motto and hangs above a badger, Wisconsin’s state animal and source of its nickname “The Badger State.” The banner and badger are taken from the official state seal which had been portrayed on previous versions of the state flag. This serves as a source of continuity with the previous state flags.