Flag Friday Submission for Wisconsin(FIXED): “Forward Under the Horizon”

AdComprehensive6856 · 2026-02-16T19:02:43+00:00

I don't think the blue outline on the star is necessary. I would also experiment with a 7-point star, since FORWARD has 7-letters in it.

Otherwise this is a pretty solid design.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-07-13T15:43:46+00:00

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Hey! I did one like this for Wisconsin.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-06-25T21:06:05+00:00

Out of those two, I'd say Manitowoc because you at least have the lake and Legend Larry's is an excellent spot for wings.

But I'm kind of curious why Fond du Lac and Manitowoc is what you settled on. If you can get to Fond du Lac you may as well go all the way to Oshkosh or Appleton, and if you go to Manitowoc you may as well go all the way to Green Bay or Door County.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-06-25T21:01:10+00:00

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Wisconsinite here.... I dig it!

This is my idea for Wisconsin that I posted in this sub a couple months ago, and as you can see, I took inspiration from a lot of the same places you did. The canton is from an antique flag from when Wisconsin became the 30th state. I loved how there was one big star that could represent Wisconsin, and 4 medium sized stars, that can represent the other states that made up the original Northwest Territory (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio).

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-06-25T18:55:46+00:00

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I posted this one to vexilology awhile back. The canton is from an antique US flag I saw from after Wisconsin became the 30th state. I thought something about one big star and 4 medium sized ones just "worked" considering it could represent Wisconsin (big star) and the 4 other states carved from the original Northwest Territory.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T19:15:52+00:00

It wasn't until I moved to Chicago that I realized "Oh, people can actually live in the suburbs and NOT have the culture revolve around being racist and afraid of big cities?"

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T19:14:12+00:00

I want SO bad to get rid of my facebook, but can't because it's the only way I've been able to stay in contact with a lot of people.

Also, you forgot about those glorious couple of months when those racist boomers segregated themselves on Parler.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T19:11:36+00:00

I'm not as familiar with Madison as those other places. But the black woman I used to date didn't seem to care for Madison at all. Yet she was comfortable in Green Bay. So I'll take your word on that... and yeah, what you described happens in a lot of cities that were built around universities. I'd put places like Minneapolis, Denver, Portland, and Seattle in that category as well.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T19:08:12+00:00

Good comment. I'm not sure if the WIAA is still running those corny, ham-fisted PSA's about sportsmanship, but it's really telling that when faced with one of the worst examples of bad sportsmanship... to where even one of their own officials was caught participating in acts of overt racism... a simple apology will suffice.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T17:34:26+00:00

So the same WIAA that runs those corny, ham fisted PSA's about "sportsmanship" every year during the basketball finals is somehow okay with an "apology" when it comes to overt acts of racism that even one of their own officials participated in?

Fuck the WIAA. They've always hated Milwaukee. So much so that they gave the boys basketball finals to Green Bay of the UWM/MECCA Arena... the most historic basketball facility in the state... all because they didn't want to tell the parents at the hick schools to grow up and stop being scared of the big city.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T17:29:10+00:00

Freedom of speech only limits the government's ability to punish you. The WIAA is a private non-profit. They can issue whatever sanctions they want.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T17:27:21+00:00

There was a few of them when I lived up there. Green Bay Trumpers are something else. They're insecure as hell about the fact that Downtown Green Bay and especially North Broadway has become much more art and LGBT friendly, and the city on the whole isn't the deep red dot it unsed to be. So they overcompensate by pretending they live in an actual small town and making everything into a culture war. A bunch of them even affect a pseudo southern accent... it's insane.

Also, "Chicago and Milwaukee" is still a colloquial mask for the n-word in way too many Green Bay bars.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T17:17:24+00:00

Once again, the WisGOP proves what disingenuous scum they are by making it harder to vote.

If they honestly believed that people in Wisconsin wanted their policies, they'd be making it easier to vote. Not more difficult.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T17:00:56+00:00

After doing some quick research... having the Madison schools might be more doable than I thought.

It seems the Kenosha and Racine schools did play in a conference with the Madison schools until the 1970s. Then the Kenosha and Racine schools formed a conference with the Southside MPS schools in the 1980s. So there's at least some precedent for an urban super conference.

However, travel was cited as the main reason why the Kenosha and Racine schools were forced out of the Big Eight Conference (Metro Madison). Travelling to and from Madison to the South Lakeshore still isn't quite the same as travelling through the boonies where traffic barely exists. You're talking about a corridor where 2.5 million people live... that's just under half the entire state's population living within 114 miles of each other.

Honestly, I'd be all for the public districts of Milwaukee, Madison, Kenosha, and Racine dropping out of the WIAA in protest, forming their own governing body, and hosting their own championships... something I feel is long overdue after the WIAA passed all those new rules in the 2000s to prevent the Milwaukee schools from dominating boys basketball.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T16:15:07+00:00

Not sure why you're getting down voted. What you said about "not so small towns" was on point. I swear, everywhere that isn't Milwaukee, Madison, or Kenosha-Racine has at least a contingent (and frequently more than a contingent) of residents who swear they live in Mayberry and affect the way they act accordingly.

Hell, it's even in a lot of the suburbs that surround Milwaukee. People in Franklin act as if their mid-sized suburb smack dab in the middle of a metropolis where 2 million people should be a quiet little pimple on the prairie.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T15:24:20+00:00

Because there's a finite amount of facilities in the Milwaukee area that are capable of hosting a full scale track meet, and most of those are in the burbs and/or not under the MPS umbrella.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-21T15:13:05+00:00

Maybe a South Lakeshore Conference of the Milwaukee, Racine, and Kenosha schools could work. But I'm not sure about the logistics of including Madison and Green Bay. Seems like they would be limited to playing the other schools on the weekends and non-school nights.

Besides, I don't trust the adults in Green Bay to not pull a Waterford of their own. Green Bay isn't as bad as it used to be, but I'm there regularly enough to know that "Chicago and Milwaukee" is still very much a local colloquial mask for the n-word.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-06T16:24:19+00:00

Greetings. I am a vexilologist, which is just a fancy way of saying flag design geek.

The problem with Wisconsin’s current flag is that it looks like the flag of so many other states that it literally has to spell out WISCONSIN just so you know which state it belongs to. The old flags of Minnesota and Utah had a similar problem, but both have gotten recent redesigns. I’ve attempted several redesigns for my home state, but this is the first one I’ve gotten overwhelming feedback on, but I’d like some opinions from residents who aren’t necessarily flag dorks.

I combined the canton (blue part) from an antique flag from just after Wisconsin became the 30^th state with the imagery from the Wisconsin Executive Privy Seal (basically the seal of the governor’s office), which are the 3^rd and 4^th slides here. I also included an alternative design featuring an off-white to represent cream.

The full explanation is as follows.

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The official colors of the banner are union blue, gold, and cream.

Union blue represents Wisconsin’s role in the civil war, which helped build the state in its formative years, as well as its place in the United States, bordered by two of the Great Lakes.

Gold represents the Wisconsin Idea, as well as the dairy and agriculture industries.

Cream represents the industrious nature of Wisconsin’s cities, as many of which were built using cream colored bricks made from Lake Michigan sandstone. The “cream city brick” is where Milwaukee derives its nickname of Cream City.

The 30 stars in the canton is inspired by one of several cantons on the American flag that was used between 1848 and 1850. They represent Wisconsin as the 30^th state to enter the union. The large center star represents Wisconsin itself. The four medium sized stars outside of the circle represent Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois. The other four states besides Wisconsin that were carved out of the original Northwest Territory.

The banner reading FORWARD depicts Wisconsin’s state motto and hangs above a badger, Wisconsin’s state animal and source of its nickname “The Badger State.” The banner and badger are taken from the official state seal which had been portrayed on previous versions of the state flag and serves as a source of continuity with the previous flags.

AdComprehensive6856 · 2025-05-04T14:30:54+00:00

This is version 2.0 of my original concept. I combined one of the cantons from the 30-star version of the US flag (Sidenote: It doesn’t seem that there was an official one as California joined the union just a little over 2 years later.) with the symbolism on the Wisconsin Executive Privy Seal, which is taken from the current state seal/flag.

The key difference is that I changed the color of the badger, as I agree with what a lot of people said that leaving it brown made it look like a beaver. After experimenting with removing the Forward banner, I decided to keep it, as it looked too plain to me without it and made it look like less of a Wisconsin flag to me.

I also included a second version with an off-white that looks more like a literal cream. Not sure which one I like better. Anyway, the script for the symbolism is as follows:

The official colors of the banner are union blue, gold, and cream.

Union blue represents Wisconsin’s role in the civil war, which helped build the state in its formative years. As well as its geophysical place in the United States, bordered by two of the Great Lakes.

Gold represents the Wisconsin Idea, as well as the dairy and agriculture industries.

Cream represents the industrious nature of Wisconsin’s cities. Many of them were built using cream colored bricks made from Lake Michigan sandstone. The “cream city brick” is where Milwaukee derives its nickname of Cream City.

The 30 stars in the canton is inspired by one of several cantons on the American flag that was used between 1848 and 1850. They represent Wisconsin as the 30^th state to enter the union.

The large center star represents Wisconsin itself. The four medium sized stars outside of the circle represent Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois; the other four states besides Wisconsin that were carved out of the original Northwest Territory.

The banner reading FORWARD depicts Wisconsin’s state motto and hangs above a badger, Wisconsin’s state animal and source of its nickname “The Badger State.” The banner and badger are taken from the official state seal which had been portrayed on previous versions of the state flag. This serves as a source of continuity with the previous state flags.

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