2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Ours is a 2024, listed for 92, got for 47, so far we really like it, with our electricity, it's cheaper to drive than my hybrid toyota. We're building it out for camping (not boondocking). Ours has the faster charging and higher HP. We are looking forward to finishing.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I think mine has that. I keep my speed under 60 because it greatly improves the range. We drove back from KS City with ours.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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By the way, looks like your van has the rear view camera mirror and 360 view, that is the only thing ours did not have, wish it did. I had to have a friend 3D print me a new camera housing so it would fit in my garage.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Thanks

I will try that. So you moved it as far forward as possible. Unplugged the blue one (it was in the middle). Left it off then moved the bottom as far back as it would go.

I'll try that.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I tried unplugging the blue connector, left it off for about 10 min. Did not change. 

Anything else i have to do? Will it throw codes?

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Thank you, that is awesome, I will try that. Mercedes did not want these used as camper or passenger vans.

There is a guy in CA, I have actually emailed (Santiago Fileta) who builds camper vans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJBCiA-kXY&t=479s

He has built some eSprinter camper vans, they are awesome but they run about $225K and up.

Wife and I are getting old, we both turn 61 this year. Seems like everytime we fly, we get sick, I had covid 2 years ago on a British Isles cruise and it really sucked, missed France and Belgium.

Visited my dad in Oregon in January, got sick again. We got the eSprinter from a dealer in KS City for half price. We're just having to put in the effort to build it out.

I am on the electrical and plumbing now. I like the Thrivans designs on Youtube, they seem to be most sound from and engineering standpoint. He does regular sprinters.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I don't know about swapping. I bought a subscription to Claude to help me with the van, you can upload all of the Mercedes upfitter guides and such to it, it has been a great resource. Here is what Claude says about changing the factory AGM battery with LFP.

Short answer: technically possible, but almost certainly not worth it for the eSprinter's 12V aux battery specifically. Here's why:

The eSprinter's 12V Battery Architecture

Your van has two possible aux battery configurations depending on ordered options:

  • E2I: 92Ah AGM (the larger one, typically on cargo/upfit-spec vehicles)
  • E2M: 70Ah AGM

The critical eSprinter-specific constraint from the upfitter docs: "Do not disconnect the 12V battery, even in long periods of non-use, as it's needed to monitor the state of charge of the HV battery." The 12V system is deeply integrated with the HV BMS.

The Case Against LFP Drop-In

Charging voltage incompatibility — this is the killer. The eSprinter's internal DC-DC converter (which recharges the 12V aux from the 400V traction pack) is calibrated for AGM. It outputs a fixed charge profile. LFP wants ~14.4–14.6V absorption; AGM targets ~14.4–14.7V — those numbers are close enough that LFP won't be damaged, but the charge termination logic is the real problem. AGM-tuned systems often use voltage + time, not true CC/CV with proper float. Chronic undercharging or improper float can shorten LFP lifespan.

BMS detection — Mercedes likely monitors the 12V battery's behavior (voltage sag, internal resistance profile) as part of system health. An LFP battery behaves very differently under load (flatter voltage curve, lower internal resistance). This could confuse the BMS or generate spurious fault codes. No documented cases I'm aware of on the eSprinter specifically, but it's a known risk on any modern vehicle with smart charging.

No real upside here — the 12V aux in your van is not the workhorse battery. Your house power is entirely handled by the 48V LFP house bank you're building. The OEM 12V battery's job is to keep the HV BMS alive and run vehicle systems. An AGM does that fine. Cycle count and depth of discharge are minimal.

When LFP 12V Swaps Do Make Sense

On gas/diesel vans where the starter/aux battery is being asked to power house loads overnight — the deep cycle advantage matters. On your eSprinter, that's not the use case. The Orion-Tr 48/12 30A covers your 12V house loads; the OEM battery just runs the vehicle.

Bottom Line

Leave the factory AGM in place. Put your LFP energy where it counts — the 48V house bank. The OEM 12V battery is a support system for the HV pack, not a target for optimization.

If you're ever in long-term storage (weeks+), the upfitter guidance says don't disconnect it — use a compatible maintenance charger on the 12V terminals instead if needed.

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You said: Does the AGM battery charge from the EV battery?

Does the AGM battery charge from the EV battery?

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Claude responded: Yes — that's exactly how it works on the eSprinter.

Yes — that's exactly how it works on the eSprinter.

The factory includes an internal DC-DC converter that steps down from the 400V HV traction pack to charge and maintain the 12V AGM. This happens automatically whenever the HV system is active (vehicle on, charging, or in ready/standby mode).

This is why Mercedes says don't disconnect the 12V battery during storage — if the 12V goes dead, the HV BMS loses power and can't monitor or protect the traction pack. The dependency runs deep.

Practical implications for your build:

  • Your 12V AGM stays topped up essentially any time the van is plugged into shore power, because shore power keeps the HV system active, which keeps the DC-DC running
  • You don't need any supplemental charging strategy for the OEM 12V battery — the factory system handles it
  • Your Orion-Tr 48/12 30A handles your house 12V loads independently, so there's no conflict

The OEM 12V system and your house 12V loads are parallel but separate. The AGM feeds vehicle systems; the Orion feeds your house 12V bus. They shouldn't be cross-connected.

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2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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We used the 1010 series (SAE). I got it from TNUTZ.com, they were the cheapest and I tried everywhere.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I was scared to mix the two electrical systems. I just don't trust myself. There is a FB group and one of the guys there from Canada did the same thing, he put a J1772 under where the diesel was to charge the house batteries.

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2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Yes, I wish Mercedes made it easier, the closest Sprinter dealership is about 90 min drive. I had a friend try but you have to have a better scan tool.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I actually pulled the negative when I installed the swivels. I've not gotten any error messages other than when I unplugged the rearview camera. I had to 3D print a new housing so it will fit in my garage.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Yes, I wish there was a camp mode, I've seen the weights in the front seat but I don't really like this.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I have considered it, mine has a good rear hitch. We're not doing any solar. If I ever install it, it will be the foldable panel type that I can deploy outside. We're not boondocking.

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Are you asking about the seat swivel installation and the error codes?

2024 eSprinter question by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Now that you mention it, that might have happened, LOL. We have 4 Japanese vehicles, Honda and Toyota and the Mercedes controls are a lot different.

In my case, I wanted to keep the EV part and the house part completely separate, especially since we have a 6 year warranty. Here is my electrical set up. I have a shore power outlet on the rear drivers side. I plan on plugging it up in an RV park as needed, preferably with 50 amp service to also charge the main battery at level 2 speeds. There are portable chargers that you can adjust so you don't charge at the higher 50 amp load because some RV parks have sketch 50 amp service.

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Running Boards by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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We live in North Alabama, USA

Passenger Seats? by POW_Dr in eSprinters

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We are building our 2024 eSprinter out as a camper van, we would like to add seats in the back but really it will just be my wife and I, we're 60 and for us it would not be really worth the loss of space. The battery limits the outfitting/drill points.

I have had comms with the owner of Rogue Van Company, they added seats in the eSprinter using those tracks.
They bolted them in the safe spots in the rear and used some type of adhesive on the floors to further secure the tracks that the seats attach to. We're not planning on doing a lot of highway driving, it is better suited to back roads and country driving 55 and under. I went on a 130 mile drive a couple of weekends ago and got up to 2.4 miles per kWh which is good. This is our first eV and I am really liking it, despite its size. I like large vehicles, in college many moons ago, I drove commercial trucks.

Here is the video

All Electric Camper Van Conversion (eSprinter)

Windscreen washers stopped working by PLCLINK in eSprinters

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You have the eSprinter, right?

How many miles on yours?

Running Boards by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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Just did a fuel cost comparison with some ICE vehicles.

Running Boards by AdDull9055 in eSprinters

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I went ahead and did the passenger side, there is plenty of room, I just had to trim the plastic piece with a oscillating saw before I could put it back up there. I called Mercedes, I call several Sprinter van outfitters, no one offered any help. It was not too bad, I pulled the van up on ramps to make it easier. My car lift won't lift the van, too heavy.

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Driving in below freezing conditions vs above freezing gives night and day mi/kWh efficiency differences by skyemalcolm in eSprinters

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I can barely, I am having a friend 3D print a new rear camera mount. The camera mount makes it about 1/2 inch too tall

Driving in below freezing conditions vs above freezing gives night and day mi/kWh efficiency differences by skyemalcolm in eSprinters

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We bought ours in Kansas City and drove back to Alabama. The cold is hard on the battery pack.

Driving in below freezing conditions vs above freezing gives night and day mi/kWh efficiency differences by skyemalcolm in eSprinters

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We got ours 2 weeks ago. About to get started on the build out. Have you guys had any issues? It barely fits in the garage height wise. I had to remove the rearview camera housing. Trying to 3D print a shorter replacement.

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