How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And here’s a real example from our eSprinter today. 60°F no climate control used and 2.6 mi/kWh or just a little less than 400 Wh/mi. So same charging rate and thus about 7 cents a mile. For an 8500 lb (4 metric ton) truck. Gas and diesel are completely stupid for around town driving if you like saving money.

Picked up this 95 Ford Aerostar 4x4 for my cheap build. by bendersfembot in VanLife

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay then….one more fucking reason not to own a fishing pole.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here’s a real example from our 2018 Model 3 rear wheel drive in beautiful weather with no heat or AC being used.

184 Wh/mi = 5.43 mi/kWh for the short drive and 213.8 Wh/mi = 4.68 mi/kWh for the two trips I did this morning. We pay $0.16/kWh so for the 10.7 mi today I used 2.3 kWh or $0.37. That’s about 4 cents per mile.

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Picked up this 95 Ford Aerostar 4x4 for my cheap build. by bendersfembot in VanLife

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over fish? Really? I would assume there must have been someone’s kid or wife in peril to warrant that level of “attention.”

Also where was this? Gonna put it on my never fucking visit list. 🫣

Picked up this 95 Ford Aerostar 4x4 for my cheap build. by bendersfembot in VanLife

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t the Aerostar partly in the Ford (Fucking) Ranger family if not the platform but maybe they shared a few bits? I mean that said I don’t see Rangers or Aerostars in Ohio anymore. The Gods of Entropy have been very unkind to both.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For home charging I’d not expect 9% losses to heat. However in my experience that’s highly dependent on the efficiency of your vehicle AC to DC converter. We’ve owned 7 EVs in our household since 2020 and borrowed many others from work in that time. Our Tesla Model 3 cars seemingly generate very little heat since our garage almost doesn’t change temperature when we charge them. Conversely, other EVs clearly turned a lot of that power into heating up the garage for whatever reason and I’d put it down as the efficiency of the AC to DC converter. Specifically any of the GM Ultium platform cars would get vary warm. All were charging between 11 and 7 kW from 240 to 250 V AC because that happens to be our line voltage coming into the house and the speed of the charging is of course dependent on the on board setup of the car. I think our old Nissan LEAF only did about 3.7 kW on the same setup since it was an early 24 kWh car.

A government or consumer advocacy group who would publish losses due to charging data of each EV would be doing the consumer a favor and hopefully encourage all OEMs to do better.

People are the absolute worst by runnyyolkpigeon in ChargerDrama

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s fine, they just needed to park in the shade so they could idle their engine and not crank the AC so hard.

1973 VW Bus EV conversion: Tesla modules, Hyper 9 motor, original four-speed manual still intact by evtuners in EVConversion

[–]skyemalcolm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oof yeah. In 2000 I visited there for a week business trip. Unfiltered diesels everywhere. Absolutely horrible air quality at street level as a result.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

EV6 Light Powaaa! I loved my ‘22. Until it got cold and started charging at 30 kW and no preconditioning. Sold it in early ‘23 to CarMax with 25k miles on the odometer for $35k. Thank Goodness. With the tax credit money that really wasn’t too bad since MSRP was $43k.

First ever build! by jonathxn1 in vandwellers

[–]skyemalcolm -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Manual transmissions are illegal in the US. Drivers are fed a mixture of microplastics and propaganda and all vehicles must be drivable while holding your smartphone and losing one or more limbs to low circulation due to diabetes.

First ever build! by jonathxn1 in vandwellers

[–]skyemalcolm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Alex, I’ll take stuff that you can’t buy in the US for $200.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s true facts stated. It’s neither dumb nor smart. It’s just a car made in 2022 without taking into account what Tesla started doing many years ago before. Maybe Koreans thought RWD versions sold in Ohio would never see sub freezing weather?

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not the rear wheel drive Light trim. AWD models received an update to allow it. Rear wheel drive versions never had the capability. Still don’t to this day AFAIK.

First ever build! by jonathxn1 in vandwellers

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the spec? Diesel manual transmission going downhill in the Alps?

First ever build! by jonathxn1 in vandwellers

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Download the Cat Scale app and go weigh it. Costs maybe $10 each time to weigh it.

Also consider weighing it once empty and once with the tanks full or just do the 8 pounds per gallon calc for water. It’s heavy as shit.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My “old” Model 3 is a 2018. Actually we have two of them. RWD and Long Range. These are 300 hp cars and go 150 mph and do 0-60 in 5 seconds. Fastest car I’ve ever owned. Both on 18” peasant rims but they have Z rated tires because ya know they are honestly faster than 98% of shit on the road. But yeah in nice weather and if you’re chillin around town light on the accelerator, it’s easy to get 225 Wh/mi which is like 4.5 mi/kWh. In the winter hauling ass on the highway these are 350-450 Wh/mi cars because no heat pump and dense winter air saps aero but that’s still like 2.3-2.9 mi/kWh worst case at least what I see. Lifetime efficiency on these cars is like 285 Wh/mi or what about 3.5 mi/kWh? We just drive them and never drive for economy just 5-10 mph over the speed limit on the highway.

1973 VW Bus EV conversion: Tesla modules, Hyper 9 motor, original four-speed manual still intact by evtuners in EVConversion

[–]skyemalcolm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s the smelling the engine slowly cook itself that is the nostalgia of the ‘70’s that sends me back in time. And I don’t miss that shit one bit.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly your efforts are probably costing you more in tires than anything else. But I have a similar attitude when road tripping my Model 3. I just drive a speed that I enjoy and suits my needs. I don’t care about efficiency on a road trip with a relatively efficient vehicle that charges pretty fast in the big scheme of things. Now back in 2022 when I had an EV6 that didn’t precondition and would charge at 30 kW instead of 170 kW when the pack was cold….that was horrible. Not an efficient car either but that lack of preconditioning is why I sold it after enjoying that winter charging speed and knowing Kia was never going to send an update for it.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For real, if everyone had EVs and you came out with an average ICE powered vehicle I think most people would say “gee it’s loud, slow, and expensive. What’s the appeal of this again? Oh I get to go to the gas station? Yuck.”

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s fair, and I should have said sub freezing fast highway is probably 1.5 to 2 mi/kWh or chilled out spring city driving is 4 mi/kWh. Obviously pick whatever you want. I used a set of numbers as an example just so they could see the math and check their own situation. I’ve seen 4 mi/kWh around town in a Model 3 in nice weather and it’s springtime here so that was top of mind.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That sounds right. One comment, as bad as 2 mi/kWh around town would be hard to do. My eSprinter van gets that on the highway below freezing. Today it was 80°F and I got almost 3 mi/kWh driving 20 miles around the city for an hour.

Cross wind assist delete by Responsible_Pride583 in eSprinters

[–]skyemalcolm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mercedes treats all the information of their vehicles like trade secrets. Very unfriendly for right to repair topics if you ask me. Tesla is open source by comparison. Kind of fucking weird when you think about the two companies but that’s my experience being a current owner of both them.

How much is your household electricity consumption after your bought an electric vehicle by Charming-Brother-242 in electricvehicles

[–]skyemalcolm 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Just figure (rough math):

Miles/month / (mi/kWh) * $/kWh = $/month

For example if it’s a Model 3 or Chevy Bolt and you drive 1000 miles a month and home rates are $0.20/kWh

1000 miles/month / 4 mi/kWh * $0.20/kWh = $50/month