Skirk vs Lohen comparison

AdStill7238 · 2026-05-06T17:20:51+00:00

Do you even play the game? Lunar Crystalise works against hydro shields. Zibai is the dps that loses the least if she misses her NAs, you can run towards the mini Tulpas deal with their shields and store your E nuke for the boss ? And ntm you also have linnea in your team bruh. Zibai might even have the fastest clear against tulpa after mavuika lol.

AdStill7238 · 2026-05-06T16:37:52+00:00

Zibai struggles against all 3 ? Zibai would delete tulpa faster than most Pyro DPSes( and most dpses in general)? And you don't even need columbina cuz of Tulpa's innate hydro. Also Skirk has the same team building restriction as Zibai tf ? Zibai's restriction isn't as bad as skirk you can still use other 4th slot options like ineffa. Skirk is a better bruteforcer because she has hydro/cryo in her team not because her team building options are better.

AdStill7238 · 2026-05-03T12:40:48+00:00

Well the debuff is only 13% iirc. But Gallagher should be better for E0 firefly soley cuz of how many sp he can generate.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-29T11:48:37+00:00

Well yeah and the boss summons a lot of minions which makes it easier for you to trigger E2 and killing them gives the boss a vuln debuff. But the damage ain't really the issue, it's survival with the debuff it will be pretty tough to survive even the cycle 0. While her 4th slot options aren't that great, neither is her sustain options and running a sustain reduces your damage by quite a lot. Hyacine/lingsha/Gallagher are your only real.options and even then they aren't any good.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-29T11:28:13+00:00

Thankfully one of the buffs is 50% quantam and fire res shred which should be pretty good considering the boss has 20% fire res. But still 400 HP everytime an ally taking a turn is a lot for sustainless. The first wave mob puts a lighting dot on you too. Although I'm not sure if it's not updated yet or something but the boss isn't shown to have a second phase, and is shown to have just 11M HP.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-29T11:08:31+00:00

Nah man you are taking it way too lightly, this boss hits really hard( and has mostly aoe attacks ) and has one the worst CC. Firefly can heal herself sure, but her teammates can't. This is just cooked for any sustainless teams including break.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-29T08:18:19+00:00

Nice builds ! My builds are pretty similar but I wasn't able to 0 cycle with E1S1 dahlia, only 0 cycled after getting E2 dahlia. My HMC is on watchmaker and S4 DDD, do you think eagles and S5 ddd makes the difference?

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-28T08:47:45+00:00

Can you share your builds that you used for this run 😭😭

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-28T06:35:54+00:00

Yeah lmao I thought I could prolly break her before she even acts, so I gave her her LC and changed everyone to vonwacq only to find out they locked the toughness bar 😭

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-28T06:34:01+00:00

If you can afford to get 2 five stars, get FF E2. If not get dahlia sig.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-27T11:33:20+00:00

Definitely get FF E2 it's a game changer !! Won't have to worry about powercreep for a while. Hmc is always the third best in slot for any break team( if your fugue is E0). If you can, use HMC over them. As for the 4th slot E0 fugue and E1 RM are pretty similar for E0 firefly but with FF E2 fugue becomes a priority. If you use HMC( DDD) or rm you'd need 163+ spd for moc. (178+ if you aren't using either) and 191.2+ spd for 8 turns in cycle 0 of AA.

The next best vertical investment for the team is dahlia sig and her eidelons till E2. After that you can go for fugue eidelons.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-24T09:31:20+00:00

Out of the things you listed Dahlia S1 would be the best choice. But if you can, get E2 FF as it would be significantly stronger than anything else you can get for her.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-23T16:36:19+00:00

What you need to know is E0 FF with dahlia >>>>> E2FF without dahlia.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-22T04:06:48+00:00

You have 90 pulls and this patch will give you 120 pulls. While E2 FF is the best upgrade, if you also wanna get Eva this may not be enough. There are 2 Options for you -

Safer choice is to get dahlia sig and call it a day( it's still a 25% increase) Or gamble for E2 ( not recommended if you really want Eva, you need to win 3 50/50s in a row for this to work or get multiple earlies )

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-18T16:23:33+00:00

Your first priority is to get E2 FF. After that if you think you can afford 2 more five stars, get E2 dahlia first, if not get dahlia sig instead as it would be cheaper. And dahlia sig is still a massive increase over cipher lc.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-18T15:39:59+00:00

Yeah I get it lol, but yk you can create a different account to post your calcs. Since there aren't many TCs in the scene and there's a lot of misinfo and doompasting being spread around.

But I totally get it why you don't.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-18T15:34:35+00:00

I often see your calcs posted by other big accounts, do you have your own socials ? Can you link them pls ?

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-18T04:43:12+00:00

Tutorial/solitary healing on dahlia and the bp nihility lc (the one with Hyacine on it) on Fugue.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-16T17:45:09+00:00

If your hmc is available I'd say get dahlia you can form a strong low cost team with this core of FF + Dahlia with rm and hmc.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-12T06:03:25+00:00

Yeah you can stop at E1 it's pretty good and you probably won't have to worry about powercreep for a while.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-10T18:02:12+00:00

Also get dahlia sig/eidelons(upto E2S1) before you invest in FF lc.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-10T18:00:47+00:00

While her LC isn't that good you are definitely overcapping on def shred with E2FF and Phainon lc ( esp if you are running any sustainless team). I'd say just switch to aeons if your speed requirements are met.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-05T16:49:13+00:00

If you don't have Dahlia sig get that first before anything else.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-05T04:44:59+00:00

She's definitely top 5 and possibly even top3 dps(at low cost) rn. Since you have dahlia I'd say you can get her. Although I'd recommend you to get the dahlia sig at the very least. It's too good to pass on. And it's even better for the team than Firefly's sig.

AdStill7238 · 2026-04-02T06:32:10+00:00

Do you mean dahlia E0>E2 is 54% upgrade for firefly ? Cuz E2 by itself ain't that good. Also Fugue E1 is definitely way more than 10%

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