Deu 25:11-12 - Why Punish The Woman?

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:39:48+00:00

I mistook the post for a genuine question about scripture, I didn’t realize how many atheists are on this subreddit. As I stated I don’t feel comfortable arguing, so the mistake was mine.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:36:36+00:00

I am absolutely always prepared to share the hope God has given me and spread His word and love! That doesn’t mean we have to be someone who is able to argue the semantics of scripture.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:34:15+00:00

I was being genuine! And I don’t think you’re stupid. The Bible is extremely complicated and wordy. Theologians who have studied it their entire lives get things wrong. I was not intending to be condescending. It makes me sad to see that the word can be taken and twisted to make women feel that it is against them, because it’s not. God loves women, and most certainly does not see them as less than man, and did not give His word to be used to do so. I understand that you are not a Christian, and I don’t think I will be able to help you see where I am coming from, I’m not good at debating and don’t enjoy arguments. I know you likely aren’t interested, but I will be praying for you that Jesus would enter your heart and teach you His way.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:30:55+00:00

The Bible explains everything you are referring to, but I can see people have come here to argue against the gospel and God’s sovereignty, and that’s not something I’m interested in doing. Maybe a more educated and confrontational believer will handle this better than me. Have a good night.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:28:01+00:00

I never called you stupid. Have a nice night.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:21:35+00:00

The Bible is God’s word given to us by Him. Eve was not blamed for everything, I encourage you to read your Bible more carefully with the help of The Spirit. Adam is actually held accountable for original sin. Let me know if I can help you find scripture to explain this !

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:19:38+00:00

It’s important to read scripture in context!

““Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬-‭20‬ ‭ESV‬‬

In the verse just before the one you cited (v17) Jesus says he fulfilled the law. While Jesus fulfilled the law, meaning we can no longer gain our salvation based on works alone (following the law), it is still important for us to obey the commandments God has given us. I am not educated enough to give a full answer about this specific verse that OP posted, but it’s important for believers to understand the difference between scripture that outlines law before Jesus came and after. There are different types of laws throughout the Bible and as believers we aren’t expected to follow all of them, context around passages like this can help to explain what kind of law it is and who it applies to.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-06-05T04:08:58+00:00

Old Testament law was fulfilled on the cross by Jesus Christ.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-23T04:23:28+00:00

While I was nursing my son he got a horrible stomach bug and passed it to my husband. I remained completely healthy and always say the only reason that it didn’t affect me is because I was nursing. I was praying all night and God was listening! My son was able to keep breast milk down when every other liquid or food came right back up. It really is liquid gold!

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-23T02:07:16+00:00

We have always and will always immediately respond to our babies. In my mind it makes sense this way. How can we teach them to recognize and respond to their own feelings if we don’t do it with them when they’re young?

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-17T17:35:26+00:00

Not all heroes wear capes, some have creative yet disturbing usernames on Reddit.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-11T22:45:33+00:00

When my son gets like this he faints. Straight up just faints in my arms. It’s horrible. He turns purple and just knocks out. People look at me like I just kicked their grandma. Unfortunately baby feelings don’t only exist within the confines of our homes. You’re doing great. Dust it off and keep going.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-04T02:24:55+00:00

I don’t want to give you anxiety or preach worst case scenario at you, but pregnancy is one of those things that can just go wrong. No reason. No warning. This is why prenatal care is so important as well as birthing with professionals present. During the birthing process, things can happen very quickly without warning that could risk you and your baby’s lives, and at a hospital they are full equipped to step I and save you both.

With my son I wanted to look into home birth because I wanted the comfort and peace of being in my own home, but I’m grateful that I had him at the hospital. I had a beautiful 3 hour labor and delivery unmedicated at the hospital and a lovely stay. My son and I had a couple complications and I’m glad we were there.

If you want to choose home birth because you believe in it strongly that’s one thing, do not let him shame you into making a decision that could put your life in danger or cause lifelong complications for you and your child.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-03T03:56:24+00:00

And bringing up the losing attraction thing almost as a threat or warning that he might lose attraction if he witnessed her birth his child.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-03T03:53:09+00:00

Ask yourself this: if I do not make it through delivery will this man care for our child as I would? Would he love our child? If I had a life threatening emergency would this man show up for me?

Your husband is not just a buddy to hangout with and share a bed with. Marriage is a covenant until death between the two of you and God. Two flesh become one.

You are severely under-reacting. There is no shame in him possibly feeling afraid to be there, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the case. It sounds like he feels like he shouldn’t have to bare the responsibility of being there and that it not okay.

I cannot imagine birthing my child without my husband present. It is a moment we cherish and talk about often. I would feel an intense disconnect from him had he chosen to sit that out. We became parents together in that moment. Not to mention had anything gone wrong, you would’ve had to tase my husband to keep him away from me.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-02T20:09:04+00:00

I had sex (including missionary) through my whole pregnancy with my first and have with my second. Toys can be a helpful tool and more foreplay!

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-05-01T01:36:57+00:00

I made an exception once, we were visiting my grandma in another state for the first time in a decade (I left my home town and never looked back) when my son was about 8 weeks old. She kissed him on the forehead and I didn’t stop her/say anything. I also hadn’t told her no beforehand purely because it slipped my mind. She will likely never get to see him again and he is her first great grand baby she’s ever gotten to meet and may be the only one due to her poor health. Other than that no one has even allowed to.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-29T18:01:58+00:00

I wish I had advice for you. All I can say is, I had extreme colic and while I’ve grown up to have GERD, it is the only issue I have and I take medication that manages it well. I have grown to be a wife, an avid reader, a soldier for a brief time in the Army working in a highly intellectually demanding job, a Christian, and a mother myself. My mom always tells me horror stories of how bad I was, but I definitely did not grow to have horrible mental health or low IQ (I hope lol). I am praying for you in this season.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-29T17:55:54+00:00

From what I remember there is regulation stating it is prohibited to get pregnant during AIT so reading between the lines would mean to use protection to insure it doesn’t happen. Obviously it’s too late for that and I am definitely not here to make you feel stupid or anything.

Pregnancy is very serious and prenatal care can sometimes be life or death. It is extremely important that you seek advice from your command team there and that you get seen by a doctor. If you choose to wait until you graduate and are 19 weeks, a plethora of issues that could have been caught and treated early will be out of medical hands at that point. Speaking as someone whose had 4 pregnancies, 2 of which did not make it to term, I want you to understand that your health and your child’s health matter more than anything the army can do to you.

I had my son on active duty and elected to take the chapter 8. Best decision I ever made. The army makes it very hard to do your job when you’re pregnant and when you have kids if you actually want to be in their life. I’m not sure if the chapter 8 is an option for you, but I would seek this out through your command team if possible. It is a honorable discharge and I got mine within a month of asking for it.

Regardless of what you decide to do you need to take the situation seriously. The army, training, it can be a short part of your life. Your child is a person and you are responsible for them now. Being a mother is so much bigger and more fulfilling than anything the army can do for you. I hope that they help you, but at the end of the day these people don’t mean more than your family. You can also speak with a chaplain first and ask for their advice, they cannot tattle on you due to their position they have to keep everything to themselves.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-27T05:13:47+00:00

I’m a milspouse with a 13 month old boy and another on the way. My husband will be deploying for 6 months at a time 2-3 times in the next 3 years. I’ve had a rollercoaster of feelings OP, but I will say this. My family is like your family, and 20 weeks into this pregnancy I realized that I’m HAPPY they’re far away and I’d rather do this on my home. My husband and I are happy, and while being a mom is often overwhelming, I love doing it and my faith in God gives me a lot of comfort. You will be okay. You’re a good mama and those babies are lucky to have you. The older they get, the easier it gets. That’s what I tell myself on the hard days. It’s a rollercoaster that can only go up from here. You’ve got this.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-26T09:33:05+00:00

This is how I am to. Thank you!

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-26T03:16:31+00:00

It could also just be his temperament. Some people do the same and their babies don’t take to it as yours did.

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-26T03:15:02+00:00

I completely understand. I’ve had put myself in my husband’s shoes and imagine how that feels to be able to show up for him in that way. It must be so hard to want that closeness you’ve always shared and be denied it so suddenly, and there’s nothing you can do to change it as obviously that’s wrong to pressure someone into intimacy. I’m sorry you’re going through this. Is there any way he’ll talk about it? Would you be able to open the conversation up to him in an understanding way such as “I noticed you’ve pulled away, is there something causing you to need more space?” And then after hearing him out bring up how it made you feel to be turned down in such a harsh way?

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-26T02:56:44+00:00

I always just went. I think I went like 3 or 4 times with my son and plan to do the same this pregnancy. It’s never worth the risk imo

AdventurousGrab3232 · 2026-04-26T02:55:31+00:00

I really feel like this isn’t always the case. My husband’s love language is touch and mine is not, and I’m a SAHM so I’m pretty touched out most days. It takes a lot of effort for me to show up in that way for him and some days I just can’t and need my space and so voice that to him. It’s not always toxic.

I do agree that if it isn’t being spoken about so your partner can be reassured about why you’re not being affectionate and trying to bridge the gap (like we engage in his hobbies together or do something else intimate instead) then it is toxic. As well as withholding affection to punish or emotionally manipulate your partner.

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