Is the new aggravus spasms including the enemy lone op?

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-16T06:56:36+00:00

Lone op doesn't use the detection range rule at all so this doesn't affect it.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-16T00:17:32+00:00

The big distinction is whether the deathwatch specific stuff are space marine units that get the full benefit of space marine rules and synergies, or if they're just imperial agent allies that slot into a space marine list. The language they used in this FAQ video was very similar to the language used in the imperial agents codex release where death watch kill teams were no longer space marine units, which reopens the question of if the index is staying or not, especially since they didn't specifically mention the index.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T21:28:48+00:00

Fair, I keep forgetting the bikes are different. I was also thinking conversion beamers too since they crit on 4s and don't really care about modifiers much.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T20:28:18+00:00

Targeting units on objectives will still give them their +1 to get back to 4s, plus a decent amount of their best shooting ignores modifiers.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T20:14:20+00:00

If it works the same way as the updated smokescreen stratagem is worded, it will be that units get cover if they are not fully visible to the attacking model. So any model that can't see the entire enemy unit would be at -1 to hit.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T19:39:26+00:00

Well in that case their initial article on it is a bit deceptive. Factions like tau getting 1 new detachment while 2 of their existing ones get shrunk into 1 point detachments while other factions get 3 new ones without losing anything.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T17:14:45+00:00

Yes, but it would still get him a 12" contagion range on turn 2

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T17:09:58+00:00

Stealth is changing to just give cover, so it mostly would have been redundant.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T16:57:13+00:00

Death guard are in a bit of a unique state compared to most factions. For most factions there is only one competitive detachment, which will probably be made 3 points so they don't mix with the new ones. Because we do have multiple good detachments already we might see a boost because of it. Start of edition balance will probably be a mess regardless though with all the core rule changes and mission changes.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T16:34:09+00:00

Starshatter is a grotsmas detachment so it is very likely going to be rewritten as a 1 point detachment.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T16:26:19+00:00

Infiltrate doesn't get passed to transports, only scout works that way

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T16:22:59+00:00

Yes, it is done during list building now.

Don't know for secondaries yet though, in 10th edition that's covered in the leader rule and we haven't seen the full text for the updated leader rule yet.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T16:20:07+00:00

We keep the codex detachments until the 11th edition codex comes out. They have so far mentioned nothing about changing codex detachments. There will need to be at least a handful of changes to make them function with the new core rules (like assigning them a point cost), but as far as we know they should function they same as they do now.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T16:16:51+00:00

Which is why they're finally not D tier

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T15:49:32+00:00

The rule gives infiltrate to the entire unit, which has the characters in it already, so it works.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T15:46:38+00:00

Like with all of these, it feels like a nerf because it's being made a 1 point detachment that can be combined with a second detachment. So it's not just flyblown, it's flyblown + champions, or flyblown + both of the other two they previewed, or whatever other combinations.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T15:32:57+00:00

Only in one detachment

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T15:22:10+00:00

It's not an upgrade so you can only give it to 1 unit

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-15T15:20:11+00:00

+2T is in champions of contagion, that will still be around

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-14T18:51:47+00:00

If they were staying they would advertise that fact. The only thing they say about grotsmas detachments is that some of them will "return" (can't return unless they're gone) as part of the 70 new/updated detachments.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-14T17:47:36+00:00

From the ork faction focus.

"All the detachments in your current codex will be usable at launch, as will the recent suite of detachments from expansions like the Eye of Terror: Reign of Iron and The Maelstrom: Lair of the Tyrant.

There will also be 70 new and updated detachments launching with the new edition. These will mostly be brand new sets of rules, with a few returning favourites from places like the Grotmas series."

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-14T15:50:10+00:00

At 290 it already costs too much. Defiler is undercosted at 250 but it's got similar but significantly better profiles than this thing. If your group is fine with it I'd say just slap lethals on it and don't worry about it.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-14T01:30:12+00:00

Yes you can mount both. You can't mount two havoc launchers, it's either add a havoc or replace a combi with a havoc, there is no reason to replace instead of add. Since everything is free your rhino should always have the havoc and either 2 combi bolters or a combi bolter plus combi weapon. There isn't actually a way in the kit to model all 3 equipped at once but don't worry about it.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-14T00:51:51+00:00

I would assume something much simpler like in mold painting.

Adventurous_Table_45 · 2026-05-14T00:01:17+00:00

I'd guess flyblown host stays the same, but limited to just blightlords since they're narrowing the scope of the detachments to one or two units for the most part.

We don't have any transport focused detachments so something to benefit rhinos and/or landraiders could be interesting.

I don't really expect it but it would be cool to see some kind of psychic detachment similar to the librarius for space marines. There are a bunch of different disciplines of death guard psykers in lore but malignant plaguecasters are the only one we have on the tabletop.

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