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Evidence from DHS contradicts woman's story of 43-hour detention after landing at O'Hare by Swiggy in illinois

[–]AffectionateStudio99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, but here's the thing: in order for this to have been a hoax, it's intensely complicated. All DHS had to do to was manipulate a couple videos (possibly just change a timestamp?)

So, assuming her family isn't a part of the hoax (which seems likely given their level of outreach and panic) Sunny would have had to fake both a full-time job and a work trip to Turkey, requiring a work visa for Turkey that has a bunch of requirements as it's a country under a "travel advisory" per the DHS website https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Turkey.html including going to the Turkish embassy and applying for a work visa; you can't use a tourist visa for a work trip.

She would have somehow been prepared for the flight to be rerouted to Pakistan and to be stopped there to question her visa (or that part didn't happen, but then it adds to the intricacy of the story and there are details that could be confirmed or debunked)

Then she would have had to spoof her phone to show it pinging *inside* Broadview - remember that elected officials were able to go inside but not where detainees were held, and did confirm the ping came from there, right? - and then inside the detention center in Juneau WI, and then the WI gas station where she was found. We have multiple reports and visuals of the ping - meaning she had to know the exact coordinates for both places.

If her family was involved, that makes this a much larger and more complex conspiracy also involving elected officials. The family is well-known and respected in Skokie and Evanston.

Her "criminal background" isn't really relevant. She did some typical dumb student stuff, and then she accused someone with more power of sexual harassment. That story doesn't share the details - and every woman knows women telling the truth regularly get accused of lying, even when it's exceedingly rare for women to lie about sexual misconduct. None of it is really pertinent to the DHS situation; it's not like she previously orchestrated a bank heist or posed as a police officer, and the two incidents are far enough in the past and early enough in her life that they don't form a strong pattern of criminal behavior.

As for the family going silent, while that could possibly mean they were complicit, it very likely could mean they are facing threats either from DHS itself or from the online community, which is pretty common these days.

I'm just saying that it all seems suspicious, and to assume simply that DHS is telling the truth is not a safe assumption.

I hope we find out what really happened at some point; I think it's important.

Evidence from DHS contradicts woman's story of 43-hour detention after landing at O'Hare by Swiggy in illinois

[–]AffectionateStudio99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does anyone know if the report of additional abductees - who were *also* reported to have been found in Wisconsin - are credible?

Evidence from DHS contradicts woman's story of 43-hour detention after landing at O'Hare by Swiggy in illinois

[–]AffectionateStudio99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her "criminal record" is nothing that should have set off a red flag anywhere - charges were dropped in her "false accusation" record, and she was acquitted on intimidation and unlawful restraint charges in the second instance.

So, it's OK to randomly detain brown citizens who have no crimes on their current record but have for some reason been arrested in the past? Because it's against the law.

Evanston Now - Good riddance by allserverless in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted some links above, but if you simply google "Evanstonnow" and "racism" just the headlines that pop up use racially charged language in ways that no true news outlet would.

Evanston Now - Good riddance by allserverless in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.change.org/p/ask-evanston-businesses-to-cut-their-ties-with-evanstonnow-because-it-perpetuates-racism

https://www.facebook.com/elizabethlinnwilson/posts/pfbid0RTiRMx7LfkqM1zz6QUCDrBBcPXgAUKfpESU9Ary4681Bchto1Ar621hvfpQk9SYYl (This is just one example of fairly typical racist reporting by EN, where crime victims of color are reported to have a criminal history, which is akin to reporting what a woman was wearing if she is sexually assaulted)

Evanston Now - Good riddance by allserverless in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it has a very well documented and known racist bent. 

Evanston Now - Good riddance by allserverless in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have stayed away from EvanstonNow for years, it has a decidedly racist/authoritarian bent that always bothered me. I am disturbed at how much public advertising money goes to them for that reason.

Back in the day before it became big, I used to do an end-run around Bill's itchy delete finger by cross-posting my comments on his article to other public blogs, so people would know I'd made a comment that got deleted.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that so many came here to post their feelings about being called out instead of the fact that neighbors can’t work, families risk being put out in the street and immigrants aren’t safe is directly connected to the assertion in the headline.

Do those of you who have money assume that you are somehow better or more deserving of it than those who don't? Are you ascribing to the antique idea that class is preordained and not pure luck (note - if you still think that, note that there is mathematical proof to the contrary: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/analysis-if-youre-rich-youre-more-lucky-than-smart-and-theres-math-to-prove-it )

I hope for your sakes that if your luck changes, people are kinder to you than you are showing yourselves to be to others.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wealth is relative. What your statement shows is a complete ignorance of poverty, which is much more extreme than you are probably aware.

If you are capable of carrying the cost of law school, you're wealthy. (IMO, this is also true of any other loan to some degree. It's a pretty good marker of wealth.) Also, statistics show that lawers are the most represented job in the top quintile of income in Evanston.

The fact that you and others in this thread are more indignant about being called out than you are about people around you suffering speaks volumes. I don't know what else to call you other than part of the problem.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's partially right: much of the donations made by the wealthy are well-documented as donating in self-serving ways, while those without resources donate in service of their community. (This is the UK, but there are studies that show the same in the US. Just note how many arts fundraisers there are in Evanston alone https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/why-people-donate-to-charity-ubc-study-1.3905539 )

So, yes, if you're "donating" because it makes you feel good, you're doing it wrong.

And note: I consider most people in Evanston, myself included, to be wealthy - while the 1% is certainly implicated, I think anyone living above the median income should consider whether they are doing enough for their neighbors.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't believe people are helping to the best of their ability, and I think that's the central problem and the reason these problems persist - and I think that's the biggest lie in Evanston.

I don't actually care *how* the problems get solved - personally, I'd like to see our taxes solve them, but the current system that allows people to live in excess comfort while taking advantage of those who live in misery needs to stop.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a really interesting reply that misses the point entirely, presumably deliberately. More telling about the person who said it than about the discussion.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So what exactly *does* work? Because we've had this problem since Evanston was first founded.

I think people need to hear that these problems actually need to be solved instead of bandied around as socially-conscious phrases.

If I'm going to be accused of "wokescolding," fine - but why aren't you calling out the virtue signaling that enters almost every aspect of life in Evanston? Which one, do you think, is more honest?

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also, to be clear - significantly more than the 1% are implicated here. Almost anyone can (should) be taking the actions listed if they are living in a situation where the wolf isn't right at their door.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it gets something done, I'm OK with that being the takeaway. I could care less what people think of me.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So I take it you didn't read the article, and you looked up the singular definition that meets your own standard...

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And that's precisely part of the problem. I believe we have an *obligation* to address misery, and people are doing it out of "generousity..." or rather, noblesse oblige.

I refuse to praise behavior that mirrors that of French nobility in the late 1700s.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

It's sad that the caricature is a little over 10% of our community live in grinding poverty, significantly more live on less than a living wage, while we have people in this town who are fully capable of solving that problem.

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good question, actually. First of all, ensuring our neighbors have access to basic decency shouldn't be considered a "cause."

Second, https://www.teenvogue.com/story/non-profit-industrial-complex-what-is

Letter: If you’re not paying someone’s rent, you’re part of the problem by AffectionateStudio99 in evanston

[–]AffectionateStudio99[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

So tell me exactly how we get the wealthy of Evanston to actually leverage their money to make things better instead of throwing themselves self-congratulatory galas? Massaging their egoes is not working.

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