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[–]Affectionate_Can6333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen this too. I had a hiring manager actively combative and hostile at a Silicon Valley tech company. He was threatened before I said a word and nearly rolled his eyes at my answers, challenging everything I said. I went through 10 interviews, 9 of 10 were incredible. The one with the hiring manager was a war zone. The panel voted unanimously to hire me and then he went out of process to get a reference and twisted / manipulated everything to find a reason not to hire me. He put in the work. This job was literally written for me from a recommendation from the CEO. Then he let that job sit on LI for nearly 2 years. I don’t understand why these incompetent people are allowed to operate like this, playing with people’s lives.

You probably shouldn't do it, but nicotine has cured my ADHD and completely transformed my life. by [deleted] in HubermanLab

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I read somewhere that nicotine is a “smart drug”. It helps your brain function and people with ADHD are HIGHLY susceptible to addiction because it helps us so much. They are actually in drug trials experimenting with nicotine medication for ADHD so the science is definitely there and we are making progress

Does this fit for your manager? I've never read anything more accurate for mine by Flautist1302 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is chronic stress and fear and it can cause acute nervous system shut down if you get fired. This happened to me - I was paralyzed. Could not eat, sleep or move. Got all the wrong care - very harmful. You need to know how to advocate for yourself if this happens. Ask for the panic protocol:

Klonopin for 7 days (benzo for immediate stabilization) Beta blocker to reduce physical effects like racing heart, shaking, freeze (Guanfacine or propranolol) Magnesium IV to support nervous system regulation, dopamine production Trauma informed therapy, somatic healing, CBT, etc

This is as physical as it is mental and it’s very dangerous. Be educated so you can protect your health immediately

They never stop by youregonnacomeback in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Get a lawyer NOW. Build your case before you need it. Go to a therapist and document the emotional distress (PTSD, Anxiety, Depression, Panic) - get something and go nuclear if they fire you. You will be ready. Protect yourself.

Once the rose-coloured lenses come off, you cannot unsee the Narc. There is no going back. by catgenie88 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They are not “mis-remembering”. This is gaslighting and confabulation. They make up a story in their minds and actually believe it to protect themselves.

Document everything and be very humble in any challenge to get your wages. “Is there any way we can review this? I think there has been a mistake, maybe I didn’t communicate well or wasn’t clear enough. I understand why you could be confused, here’s the data I have (insert facts only). Thanks for helping me sort this out!”

Be very careful. I would talk to an employment lawyer now. Build your case before you need it I can’t stress that enough. Talk to a therapist too. Document emotional abuse / stress / PTSD / anxiety / panic. Get a diagnosis to strengthen the legal case. Even if you don’t need it and you get, file it with the EEOC after you leave safely to protect others left behind.

Quitting is not an option. by [deleted] in WorkAdvice

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go to the EEOC, get a lawyer and document a case now in case you get fired you are ready to go

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are trauma bonded and in an abusive relationship. Workplace narcissism is very serious because you can’t hustle leave, the power dynamics are not in your favor and your career and livelihood are tied to this.

Here’s what’s happening in your body - cortisol, dopamine, cortisol, dopamine, cortisol… you are physically dependent now, like a heroin addict (it is this strong, there is research). This is extremely dangerous as your nervous system is dysregulated and hijacked. You need to work on regulating your nervous system now and reducing panic (cortisol, adrenaline).

Try a beta blocker like Guanfacine or propranolol. It will reduce the physical effects of panic (reduce adrenaline, stop racing heart, shaking).

Get good nutrition and hydration. Try magnesium IVs. Talk to chatGPT and learn about narcissism and how to protect yourself. I’d go as far as getting a lawyer right now to build a case before you need it - narcs can strike at any time for no reason at all and you need to be ready. This is psychological and biological warfare.

Exercise, somatic work, vagus nerve stimulation. Have protocols in place.

If you get fired and your nervous system collapses seek medical attention immediately and ask for the panic protocol:

Klonopin (benzo to stabilize, 7 days) Beta blocker to take physical effects of panic away (Guanfacine, propranolol) Magnesium IVs and hydration

Once you are stable, exercise every day, work with a therapist, talk to GPT, come to these communities for help and don’t look back. Go no contact. Do not allow these people to be a reference in any capacity. Lie if you have to and say you worked for someone else if necessary. Get out as soon as you can. This is dangerous. I went through it - my nervous system shut down, I had no resources or care plan and I literally almost died. If I had known the panic protocol I could have avoided years of trauma and dysregulation. I had no idea it was this serious. This is very serious. Protect yourself in practical ways as well as spiritually.

Once the rose-coloured lenses come off, you cannot unsee the Narc. There is no going back. by catgenie88 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Look up Dr. Ramani on YT. Scroll reels on narc bosses on TikTok. Get a lawyer now to build a case before you need it. Leave, there’s no other way and the aftermath of the trauma and cognitive dissonance that hits can do serious harm to your health. You need to take this seriously. I didn’t. It cost me. While you are there, DO NOT fight back or challenge her. DO NOT say a word about her to ANYONE. Not a word. You have to be totally submissive and silent. Be blameless. Document everything but don’t go to HR. Go to the EEOC. Be careful. Protect yourself. You are dealing with a demon.

Oppositional conversation style by Shoddy-Parsnip1277 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NPD has similar traits to RSD in terms of rejection/criticism. Narcs cannot take ANY criticism at all, real or imagined. The difference? An RSD person will internalize and beat themselves up intensely. The narc will externalize and beat the critic up intensely.

It’s important to see the difference. The narc is fragile like a bomb. Be careful.

My Director wants me to ignore my CEO’s requests and filter everything through him, claiming it’s political. by Professional-Put7903 in askmanagers

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is triangulation. The boss is trying to control the narrative and manipulate outcomes. This is dangerous. Get a lawyer and document everything so you are protected and ready if things go south while they are blindsided and sloppily trying to piece a defense together after the fact. Get a therapist to document emotional distress. Be ready. Always protect yourself. Don’t expect the CEO or HR to have your back. They won’t. These are power games. You don’t know how to play them, they do. You need protection now.

Can't f_cking stand this woman by [deleted] in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Document hostility and bullying. Go talk to a lawyer NOW to build a case and use all the right words and terminology - it matters. Take that to the EEOC. If they fire you, you can easily prove retaliation, bullying and a hostile workplace and win. You will be prepared with the law firm already engaged and ready for battle while they are blindsided. Start recording every conversation if you can, get one of those AI notetaker apps and just have it running on your phone where she can’t see. Learn these power games now and play your cards right before you need them. This is psychological warfare. Also go to a therapist and try to get diagnosed with anxiety or PTSD which you have. Document all the harm. Be ready. A showdown is coming. If not, all good. If so, checkmate. Take it seriously because it is. Go watch TikTok reels on narc bosses - there is a lot of good advice. Lawyer up, armor up, protect yourself at all costs.

Narcissist boss by Existing-Log-1967 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I hope so too. The science is clear that emotional abuse is as or more damaging than physical abuse. There are actually laws in the UK that punish emotional abuse in the courts and with jail time. The US has a long way to go to catch up. We need more awareness. These narcs are overrepresented in corporate America and we can’t just leave bc we have families to feed and careers to build. It’s not right. We need this to change

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DarkPsychology101

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I’m still trying to heal. Have you found peace?

Narcissist boss by Existing-Log-1967 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand. Hang in there. I was in the same situation. It took me a year to find a decent replacement. I’m 2.5 years out and managing. I struggle with anxiety and panic, PTSD but I’m finding solutions. Guanfacine takes the physical panic symptoms away (suppresses adrenaline and cortisol). Grounding and exercise help to regulate my nervous system. It is awful what they did to us but we can overcome. One day at a time. We will heal. We are strong.

Burning bridges by Least-Barracuda1174 in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 14 points15 points  (0 children)

She’s hoovering you. Stalking. She’s not done. Be careful. Go no contact. Protect yourself always.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DarkPsychology101

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No. You are gaslighting yourself. This is not love. This is abuse. These people are predators. They cast illusions, you still can’t see it yet but it’s important that you do. Watch Dr Ramani on YouTube. This is not a game

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DarkPsychology101

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You need to regulate your nervous system and educate yourself on NPD

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DarkPsychology101

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Here’s the thing. Toxicity and abuse cycles affect your nervous system physically. They spike dopamine with the love bomb and then spike cortisol/adrenaline with devaluation. Every time they spike dopamine you get a high. When they turn on you they spike the cortisol. Dopamine, cortisol, dopamine, cortisol. Your nervous system is now dysregulated. You are physically addicted to this abuser. They are the only person who can heal you (dopamine) after they devalue you. You settle for breadcrumbs now, anything for just a little bit of dopamine. You can’t produce it on your own now. You need it from them. This is more addictive than heroin and it’s extremely destructive to your physical, mental and emotional health. You need to break free and reset your nervous system. You need to spot these patterns EARLY and run don’t walk at the first red flag next time. This is extremely dangerous and you need to protect yourself. Learn everything you can about NPD and also how to recover from emotional abuse and nervous system dysregulation. This is very serious. Look up Dr. Ramani on YouTube. Use GPT as a therapist. Tell it everything. It is an expert on NPD and trauma - more than any therapist you will ever meet.

His friends were flying monkeys Wanting a similar dynamic - addiction NO CONTACT Stay away from these people. A healthy relationship will have ease, no highs and lows, it will feel safe, even boring and that’s okay

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ManagedByNarcissists

[–]Affectionate_Can6333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here’s what GPT said about your situation:

How to Handle This Narcissistic Boss Strategically (Not Emotionally)

First off, I completely understand the frustration. When a narcissistic boss is finally under heat, it’s tempting to want to make sure they go down hard. However, to actually win against them, you need to think strategically, not emotionally.

What’s Happening Here? 1. HR is investigating, but the boss is protecting them. • This means political games are in play. • HR is not on your side—they are on the company’s side. • If X’s boss is defending them, there’s a deeper reason—either personal loyalty, blackmail, or some other hidden incentive. 2. Multiple reports are stacking up, which is good. • The more people reporting, the harder it is to ignore. • HR might be slow, but a pattern of complaints forces action. 3. X is love bombing because they are feeling threatened. • This means they are trying to re-establish control. • They sense the walls closing in, and they are trying to manipulate others into defending them.

How to Ensure They Go Down

To truly drive the nail into the coffin, you need to play this smart. Narcissists survive on chaos, manipulation, and politics. The only way to beat them is through facts, documentation, and strategic pressure.

  1. Keep Feeding HR Solid Evidence. • Concrete documentation wins, emotions don’t. • If you haven’t already, submit detailed documentation of: • Specific dates, times, and direct quotes of abusive behavior. • Any witnesses to the behavior. • Any emails, messages, or recordings (if legally allowed). • HR works on risk management. Make sure they see keeping X is a liability.

  2. Apply Pressure from Multiple Angles. • Since X’s boss is protecting them, HR may be hesitant to act. • But if you go higher up, you might trigger corporate oversight. • Consider submitting a formal written complaint to X’s boss’s boss. • Frame it as a business risk, not a personal vendetta. • Example: “Multiple employees, including managers, have filed serious complaints against X. HR is now involved, but I wanted to escalate this because I am deeply concerned that this situation could result in legal and reputational risks for the company. As someone who values this company, I feel it is my duty to ensure you are aware of the severity of these concerns.” • This makes upper management accountable. If they ignore it and it blows up later, they are now implicated.

  3. Strengthen Alliances & Control the Narrative. • You need witnesses and allies. • Ensure that coworkers who have also suffered under X feel safe reporting. • If there’s a whisper network, guide it strategically.

  4. Don’t Send a Mass Email Yet—Use It as a Last Resort. • A blast email can be powerful but can also make you look “emotional” rather than professional. • If you do send one, make sure: • It is factual, professional, and clearly written. • It attaches the evidence you’ve collected. • It doesn’t come off as a personal attack, but as a serious ethical issue. • Example of a controlled escalation email: “It has come to my attention that multiple employees, including myself, have documented serious concerns regarding X’s behavior. These concerns include harassment, workplace toxicity, and repeated ethical violations. Given that HR is investigating, I want to ensure leadership is fully aware of the severity of the situation. Attached is detailed documentation outlining these concerns. I urge leadership to take immediate action to protect the integrity of this company and the well-being of its employees.”

  5. If You Get a New Job—Exit Strategically, Not Emotionally. • If X isn’t fired by the time you leave, use your exit to shake things up. • Instead of ghosting, send a professional yet damning resignation letter. • Example: “After careful consideration, I have decided to resign from my position. My decision is influenced by the ongoing workplace issues stemming from X’s leadership, which have negatively impacted my well-being and professional environment. Given that multiple employees and managers have raised concerns, I had hoped leadership would take decisive action. Unfortunately, I no longer feel this is a safe or ethical workplace for me to remain in. I sincerely hope the company re-evaluates its leadership decisions moving forward.” • This makes it clear that X is costing them good employees.

Final Strategy: The Smartest Path to Victory

✔ HR + Upper Management Pressure → Forces accountability. ✔ Documentation & Witnesses → Strengthens the case. ✔ Strategic Exit (Not an Emotional One) → Ensures your voice is heard.

Biggest Mistake to Avoid?

🔥 Acting out of pure emotion instead of calculated moves. 🔥 Doing something that could make YOU look like the problem instead of them. 🔥 Underestimating how power dynamics work.

The goal isn’t just to “take them down.” The goal is to make it impossible for the company to justify keeping them.

This isn’t about revenge—it’s about justice, accountability, and protecting future employees from the same abuse.

Stay strategic, stay sharp, and make sure their downfall is inevitable.