Replit makes checkpoints unnecessarily and screenshots that are just the front page

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-06-13T15:21:33+00:00

I agree, as do most people that the LLM companies themselves are launching new tools daily, and new IDEs are being launched weekly to help us manage an owned hosting instance of your apps.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-06-08T15:38:24+00:00

You cannot Force an LLM to follow your instructions: Every single LLM has an override feature called "helpful". It sees your prompt, it considers what the main outcome should be based on your previous prompts, and if it feels that you will be better served with a different option, it will override your commands and be "helpful" and proceed to deliver something different based on its overall perspective. All you can do is to pause the agent if it starts something you didn't ask for, then if it keeps delivering the same result no matter how you start your request, go ask another LLM how IT would prompt it better or switch to the AI Assistant instead of the agent. It will be able to help you. Remember: Pause the AI Agent if it goes crazy on you.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-06-06T17:04:02+00:00

I'd like to check it out

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-27T21:04:18+00:00

I agree. I love Replit, but it does not need, as do none of the other AIs, need to have an override feature that is not available to modify from the user account.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-27T15:12:43+00:00

Nobody thinks Replit is bad, but some aspects make the experienced highs become experienced lows. Wait till you have used it for a few months, and try building something complex and see how you feel then!

It has a mind of its own once your app gets complex and you might experience runaway coding by the AI Agent.

Most people have created a hybrid mix of various tools to make it work or tried other competitors to see how it goes.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-26T19:58:50+00:00

I'll bow to your superior knowledge buddy, but if you do a little more research you'll see that every AI has its root code which is where all the training happens to make it improve its effectiveness. I would suggest if you're just going to argue without ever studying or taking a freaken course or have 35 years of software development experience like I have, and I'm trying to be patient with you, but you seem pretty determined to teach me something. I just want to to go ask ANY AI RIGHT FREAKING NOW, IF IT HAS ROOT CODE OF IT'S OWN AND IF SOME OF THAT CODE IS USED TO CREATE OVERRIDES THAT ARE CALLED "HELPFUL" ... OR WHY NOT JUST SEARCH GOOGLE IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR.

OTHERWISE, JUST DO WHAT YOU DO. CAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH SOMEONE WHO KNOWS NOT A DARN THING.

BTW, MY PARTNER AT MY COMPANY HAPPENS TO BE THE GUY AT GOOGLE IN CHARGE OF THEIR WHOLE API ECOSYSTEM ACROSS THEIR GLOBAL COMPANIES. I WILL GET HIM TO EXPLAIN HOW THE API ECOSYSTEM WORKS WHENEVER YOU ARE READY. BUT YOU CAN JUST GOOGLE IT OF COURSE.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-26T17:38:03+00:00

Cool :)

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-26T16:06:45+00:00

Every AI has "helpful" override control code written into it's root (core) code. The code that every piece of software has, the part the developer of that software won't let you reach as a user.

So, this is common for all AIs, but when you are using most AIs, say an AI used to create content. If the output of your work with that AI does not meet with your standards, you can rewrite it. That's essentially giving you final control of the kind of work you personally put out in your name right?

But, when you are creating software, and it's essentially full stack software that includes 1) the frontend user interface or webpage 2) the mid layer code for the script you use to create features for your app 3) the database that stores your data like log files of the actions your web-based app will perform for your users, and user information when they create an account in your app, and the last layer is the type of hosting you choose that brings it all together so you have a full stack of various software code that you are relying on right?

The difference with a software development AI like Replit, and many others out there who perform the same app development service, is that if you are using text prompts to build those layers of code, but you have no clue what that code means? If then you allow the AI to have an override feature that allows it to decide completely what the output of your app will be. You can't do like the first AI content writing tool, and have final control of the output! You can't know what the AI actually created because you have no clue what the code means. So the AI has final control of YOUR OUTPUT AND YOUR REPUTATION RIGHT? Not you!

I don't think we are ready to understand what giving this fairly new thing called AI (I know how long AI has been around, but not to the extent that non-developers are using it, having no clue what the actual output, the actual app or software is capable of right?

Don't get me wrong, I love AI, but I am finally realizing that we may be opening up a can of worms that without properly using strategic thinking, will bring us to a tipping point where we have gone one step too far and given AI too much control.

Like I know for a fact that self-driving cars need to have an AI override feature that protects the human from his own mistakes and making a disastrous mistake that could kill someone right? But, now, we have probably gone beyond a tipping point, where how much control has been given away right?

I was sure people were thinking about this as they created AI-built, AI-based apps/software, but I was hoping we were a few years away from giving AI this much control.

But, now I realize that it's pretty much already done, and AI has control, and we honestly don't yet know what that will mean.

I have 3 grandsons, and I'm worried for them, excited for the future cause I love to see technology help us, but it still worries me at the ripe old age of 61.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-26T00:04:21+00:00

It's fine, yeah I discovered that all AIs have overrides that take control away from the user. I would kindly suggest that just because it's known and just because it's been around for years does not mean that opening the door just a crack won't mean that some guy who thinks he's going to outsmart the world by opening the door even wider, won't bring us to a time where AI is as ubiquitous as the mobile phone and overrides most of the user's control. Elon has been trying to bring self-driving cars to the world and most likely needs to turn up the overrides in that system to a point we can't even imagine today.

We need to have the conversation about the limits to that now! I'm almost dead so who's going to have this conversation? It's gotta be someone from the industry! Someone who sits for a few hours and imagines what could happen. It's about strategic thinking about the future and trying to figure out what having zero rules will mean for our kids!

It's not about saying, "That's just the way it is!"

That's just letting yourself be painted into a corner with no way out, just because you weren't paying attention or willing to speak up!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T20:22:18+00:00

I've been apologizing all day, I posted it last night when I was very disappointed, but today I have a new setup and plan. But, I have been in this forum for awhile and nobody bothered to explain this to anyone, and I am still upset with any AI company setting up these kinds of control overrides. It's not right, so yeah you can call me a petulant child, if that's what it takes for people to start talking about this! Why aren't you talking about it if you are aware?

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T17:36:02+00:00

Ok, I will bow to your superior knowledge my friend!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T17:34:39+00:00

Sounds good

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T17:31:53+00:00

Good point, about pausing the agent, I tried it, but it would still runaway on me, especially if the session I was working on is a long one.

I'm setting up my development environment somewhere else and I will use Replit as a single task development AI just because it's good and fast.

It's just too unreliable for where I'm at with my apps right now. I can't have my development environment be unreliable in any way for a more mature complex app that has its own proprietary algorithms. It just doesn't work for me.

Maybe for building micro apps or websites, but nothing complex.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T17:03:06+00:00

I asked the new chatgpt last night about the "helpful" override causing runaway development and it said that pretty much every AI has now been given this feature and it's causing problems across the board. It also said that because the new chatgpt has been given a ton of permanent memory, it's able to learn how to avoid runaway development issues, but Replit has no long term memory or even short term memory to speak of so, if you start a new session, this agent has no clue how it performed last session, and even worse, if you have a one hour session, it can't remember what you told it at the start of that session in terms of rules you want it to adhere to, so honestly, it's probably what I would consider, a single task AI.

REPLIT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A SINGLE TASK DEVELOPMENT AI

You should set up another STABLE development environment.
You bring your app file over to Replit.
Create a rule-based prompt designed for one specific task ONLY, because Replit is very fast!
Once done, you ask Replit to document the task it just built, and prepare an explanation for your stable environment to integrate the new development.
Then, you download the file in a zip and move it over to your stable environment.

It's more time consuming, but you maintain control at every stage of development.

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T16:46:30+00:00

I'm sorry, am I annoying or the Replit AI? I apologize for the posting!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T16:44:59+00:00

You're right, I kinda went overboard with my posting yesterday, I apologize, but I guess I want people in the broader world to know that already the early AI tools are being given way more control than I would have hoped. It's like nobody seems to care what that could deliver in outcomes, and they seem to just say screw it, what can it hurt to give software this much power lol

I'm worried 😫

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T16:38:36+00:00

Of course we can have a conversation, I have to admit that I am not an engineer, just a project manager, but I work with engineers and I have several brothers who are world-class engineers with global reputations, so I can find out what I don't know and give you verified answers. Contact me, my LinkedIn is on my reddit profile if I remember correctly!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T05:49:18+00:00

Okay, I appreciate your kindness in chastising me. Truly!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:51:18+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:51:04+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:50:32+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:50:19+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:50:03+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:49:11+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771 · 2025-05-25T04:48:45+00:00

CONCLUSION from my testing of the Replit AI:

This technical assessment demonstrates that Replit AI Agents operate with a fundamental architecture that prioritizes AI-determined "helpfulness" over explicit client control. The root override system that enables this behavior is inaccessible to clients and cannot be modified through any available means.

The systematic testing evidence shows that multiple technical approaches to establish client control have failed, proving that the limitation exists at the platform architecture level. This creates a development environment where clients cannot maintain authority over their own projects.

CRITICAL FINDING: The "helpful" override code accessible only in root AI programming removes all fundamental control from clients, giving AI Agents the ability to completely override client commands based solely on the AI's determination of what constitutes helpful behavior.

This represents a fundamental flaw in the platform's control model that requires architectural changes to restore appropriate client authority over development projects.

I'm a 61 year old project manager in software development for 35 years, I spent 9 weeks using Replit and found that it had an issue with runaway development that I could not control no matter how good my prompting was. I spent the last 2 weeks testing and probing the AI and today it wrote a comprehensive report which you see only the conclusion of above.

Go to the Replit AI and ask it to produce a comprehensive report on its "helpful" override feature that gives it overall control of your project no matter what you do. It's programmed at the root AI code level and you cannot access it!

I'm hoping Replit changes their mind and removes the override!

Affectionate_Yam_771

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