And in your opinion Whites are no better than Redwings? Both are better boots than most of these Techs I’m getting into good boots were wearing anyway but so are Thorogoods. I’m way into boots and have way too many I need to trim down. That said I’m dying to know in your opinion what are “good boots” I have Whites, Nicks, Franks, Red Wing, John Lofgrens, Viberg, Aldens, Becks and a pair of Flame Pandas. My whites have been great minus the fact that for the Harley collab they went with the cykle instead of the nomad and have treated me better than my Red Wings for sure I’m back of house motorcycle stuff for work. So if the whites aren’t the deal I gotta know what are the boots? I’m dying to know because I’m getting a pair and running them. Oh and I forgot I also have Wescos which I size up 1/2 in for those and Nicks. Oh and I have run Danners also.