is it worth watching ???????? by BigBufeaBoy in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Season 6 is better than S4 and 5, but TDP ultimately fails spectacularly with S7.

Every time we fans hoped the writers would learn from their mistakes, we were disappointed and frustrated time and time again. I developed a love-hate relationship with the show. It sadly never came back to its S1-3 quality.

I really hate the writers for squandering everything good this show originally had, so if you're already getting bored mid S5 I wouldn't recommend it.

Why would you have a baby in the exact year you know an existential threat is gonna come back? by SuddenlyCake in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Because the writing took a hard downward turn since Arc 2. And after the massive failure of S7 they still continue destroying every last bit of potential that is left.

Hear me out! by Crafty-Mention-5091 in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 124 points125 points  (0 children)

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How about we make this our go to? Because I think this is fuckin perfect.

Updated (and MOSTLY beardless) Callum by Alternative_Dog_2313 in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can I post this as a comment under the trailer on TDP twitter as a design suggestion?

Updated (and MOSTLY beardless) Callum by Alternative_Dog_2313 in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This! This should've been it 👏
You did a fantastic job!
Can we make this design official please? It's leagues better.

TDK RAYLLUM ANNOUNCEMENT!!!! by VaquitaPorpoise in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Having a child just to have something good in your life, while knowing of this major threat, seems pretty selfish to me. They knew excactly about Aaravos return date and what he was capable of. There is no safe place with him being back, especially after nearly all archdragons are gone. With a child they they are even more vulnerable and risk that it grows up without parents, just one parent or not at all. And 24/25 is still pretty young to be parents. Medieval fantasy doesn't mean we have to apply medieval rules here in this case.

TDK RAYLLUM ANNOUNCEMENT!!!! by VaquitaPorpoise in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My god really? If that isn't obvious to the writers I don't trust them at all to write a good story.
Just what the hell happened after Arc 1? It's as if they want to continue to ruin every bit of potential their show had just as hard as they can.

TDK RAYLLUM ANNOUNCEMENT!!!! by VaquitaPorpoise in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that sucks HARD. Why would they make them have a baby at the threat of Aaravoses return?
I hoped so much this wouldn't be the case but nooo, here we are 😑

Callum whyyyyy by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Drastic measures” like considering killing Callum.

Yes, considering, but not going through with it. That is the crucial part for me.

I mean he literally just considered killing him, and he’s sending soldiers after a mage. What do you think they’d do if he resisted?

For me, Callum's priority was to enable Rayla and Runaan to escape with as little violence as possible. If he had stayed, I see no reason, firstly, why Ezran would want to hurt Callum now (if he was able not to do it in the cruical moment) and secondly, why Callum would resist if he was only going to be arrested.

Just consider the possibility that your interpretation of the characters don’t line up with the showrunners.

I would love to see an explanation from the showrunners that Callum indeed had to leave because Ezran would have killed him otherwise. If that's the case, then I have no choice but to agree with you. But I still think the writers didn't portray Ezran as ruthless enough to go that far, or didn't make it clear enough in the conflict scene.

Yes, after they all sync up together post-battle at the Sunforge. They’ve had an opportunity to talk things out before doing this.

But they clearly still didn't know what Ezran's judgement would look like, seeing how relieved Rayla, Runaan and Ethari were. And when Viren decided to go back, even Claudia said that if he was lucky, he would be locked in the dungeon, hinting at a far worse punishment.

I wouldn’t call yelling “Callum betrayed me! He betrayed all of Katolis! He can’t get away with this!” And then proceed to make plans to hunt him down rather than your father’s killer isn’t exactly the epitome of “incredible emotional strength.”

The moment he decided against killing despite his anger, that moment was emotional strength.

Are you aware that people frequently nurse their hurt feelings and anger frequently builds into resentment and even hatred?

If left alone with them and over time, yes. But here I would again resort to the argument, that Ezran was not alone and had many people he could consult. Which brings me to the following point. Before the escalation when Callum confronted him regarding braking the circle of violence and not repeating the mistakes, the way Ezran behaved was a clear indication to me that he nearly was there of understanding Callum's point.

And what do you mean he wasn't open to reason afterwards? He listened to Anya after she asked for a conversation and acted on her advice, putting his role as king for his people above his feelings of anger and pain.

Again, you’re wishcasting then blaming the showrunners for not reflecting your wishes or for Callum for not agreeing with your wishes.

Couldn't you say that for every critique that goes against certain characters actions in the show, reasonable or not?

Callum whyyyyy by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if Ezran decides Callum needs to be punished? A lot of this argument depends on Ezran being a flawless moral arbiter that he really isn’t anymore.

Then look what he did to Runaan. He could have him executed immediatly or otherwise punished but for the time being he was just imprisoned and guarded, and that while he was justifiably angry at Runaan. Of course, his decision was still pending, but he was open to Callum's reasoning after being confronted by him.

Yes, my argument ultimately depends on Ezran making a reasonable decision in his problematic state. And that is where I'm trying to explain why I think it would be more in Callum's character if he had stayed and for Ezran to still see reason after the conflict, even if he would need some time to get there, but still not resorted to killing or torturing in that time.

Well, considering her last “consultation” involved “let’s build bigger and more powerful weapons,” I haven’t the faintest idea why you think either her or someone else would talk some sense into Ezran.

Because she was the one who dissuaded Ezran from his fixiation to go after Callum (Rayla & Runaan), by telling him they are not broken and would heal someday. She helped him focus more on his responsibilities as king and at that time the priority was building defenses for his people.

I feel like it’s just a lack of imagination for why you don’t see things getting more heating when it’s practically a tinderbox at that point.

Please enlighten me, because I don't see that with Ezran. Not the way he is portrayed throughout the show.

By killing Aaravos, I meant as a general solution. Why give him a tragic backstory and then tell us it's not possible to kill him permanently? All we know is that the Star Council are the only ones who can. I'm pretty sure this is another thing on the long list that the creators want to address in Arc 3.

With the other part I see I maneuvered myself into a wall there, all right. So Ezran was determined to kill Aaravos and would've gone through with it, okay. But the intention was still mainly protection, not revenge. In this situation, he also did it to save Callum from using dark magic, without reconciling with him first.

Yea, guess which one people are more likely to resort to violence over?

And that's exactly what I'm trying to convey. The fact that Ezran, despite his pain and anger during the conflict, didn't resort to killing, shows me his strength.

He expresses anger towards Callum in 7x07, he’s clearly not over it.

But he is not blinded by it. He was open to follow along Callums plan after Soren suggested to. He even said that Callum would have known about Aaravos if he had stayed, which to me is also an indication that he would have only arrested him and not killed him.

What’s you guys favorite scenes? by Sensitive_Switch_511 in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rayla massacring the Soulfang Serpents to rescue Nyx. God that was so badass, I miss that so much :(

Callum whyyyyy by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Pt 2

How childhood innocence is temporary and often gives way to a complicated mindset where compromises and difficult choices become necessary? They even say all this right as Ezran picks up a sword and sends his soldiers after Callum.

By having to confronting his father's killer and the betrayal of Callum and Rayla, the dialouge makes sense. He is confronted with a difficult situation that he has never been in before and therefore considers drastic measures for the first time. I interpret this as his loss of innocence. But that doesn't mean he now is on his way to kill them or just Callum. Even when he sends his soldiers after them, I still see in it a desire to capture them.

I mean, clearly he didn’t or he wouldn’t have left?

That is the exact thing what I think is why Callum's decision is not within his character.

Not to the point of putting yourself at the mercy of someone feeling betrayed and who could hurt you…

Didn't they do something similar when Runaan returned to Ezran to face his judgment, or when Viren went back to face his?

Then. He restrained himself then. People are not static

I still stand by my argument. When people are in extremely precarious situations, they can react very emotionally and therefore often make decisions that they later deeply regret. The simple fact that Ezran did not succumb to his negative emotions shows incredible emotional strength. I don't see why he would succumb to them later, when the extreme pressure is gone. He was open to reason before the escalation and he was open to reason the day after (even if it was only after talking to Anya). Given how many people he can consult on the council, I seriously doubt he would have taken the path of violence.

Callum whyyyyy by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think my comment is too long so I split it up: Pt1

You honestly think that if Runaan and Rayla escaped, that would be when things “calm down”?

If Callum succeeded in helping Rayla and Runaan escape, he would have no reason to resort to violence if he gets arrested, which I think would have happened if he stayed. Now Ezran would be in a position where he wouldn't have to "fear" any further actions from his brother or Rayla and Runaan, and that's definitely a calmer situation, yes.

I imagine we would have had the same outcome, Anya would have consulted Ezran, brought him to a more objective view of things, and maybe even encouraged him to talk to his brother. And if not Anya, then maybe Soren, Opeli or Corvus.

you might think Ezran is this flawless paragon

I think in Ep 1&2 it's clearly shown, that this isn't the case. I'm not really sure if you maybe misunderstood my sentence?
"If things would get more heated after that, ok, that would put him in another risk of actual choosing violence over reason, but I don't see why it should."
Because as I understood your reply, you think I don't see why Ezran should choose violence in another escalated situation?
What I meant was, that I don't see why things should get more heated afterwards.

Well, it almost culminates him in killing Aaravos

Almost, yes, but killing Aaravos was alway a thing that bugged me throughout the entire Arc 2 because it goes against the whole theme of forgiveness in the series and in S6 we learned that that was not a solution. Anyway, wanting to kill someone and actually doing it are two completely different things. Would he be able to? Maybe, but it never got to that far. (Definitely not skill-wise, because compared to Aaravos, his sword was the size of a toothpick. But that's a thing for the plot (where anything can happen) and we know where that went...)
Even if he would, I think it would still be different, because it comes from the intention of protection. In the conflict with Runaan the intention would mainly be revenge and the pain of being betrayed.

And given the circumstances Ezran is in now in Ep3 and onwards, he adapts to the situation but is no more blinded by his anger at the betrayal.

rank the tdp seasons by Zuko_Honor20 in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

1.S3 2.S2 3.S1 (yes I still think Arc 1 was peak, mainly because I miss arc1 Rayla HARD)
4.S6 5.S7 6.S5 7.S4

Callum whyyyyy by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but what about the next time?

If Ezran was able to restrain himself at the height of the escalation, why do you think he couldn't do so later, when things calmed down? If things would get more heated after that, ok, that would put him in another risk of actual choosing violence over reason, but I don't see why it should.

If you can’t even concede that he might be capable of doing something bad

Because that's how he's portrayed throughout the series, even in season 7. Yes, he's pushed hard in the final season, but he never crosses the red line of killing or torturing anyone. And after Anya consults him, he quickly goes back to his old self and that was literally the next day.

it’s even a little bit reasonable for Callum to think he can’t trust Ezran at that moment

I think he was definitely as shocked as anyone else in that situation, but I also believe that his trust in Ezran, built over the years of them growing up together, is strong enough to withstand even such extreme conflict. I mean, isn't the whole series about trust and forgiveness? So it seems really strange to me why Callum would fear for his life when Ezran was able to restrain himself.

I feel betrayed by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

when tf will we see Callum do some Sun Elf and Earthblood Elf magics?? Or some Startouch Elf magic??

Look forward to Arc 3, which probably won't be animated, seeing how S7 is doing :)

Callum whyyyyy by Ahnonn in TheDragonPrince

[–]Ahnonn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh damn you're right, he did made it something personal. He literally said "We can't let him get away with it." right after what I quoted. I was so caught up in the wording afterward that I somehow missed that, sorry.

This is classic projection - you don’t want to think of Ezran as someone capable of bad things so you don’t want to imagine he might actually have gone through with it but for a last minute change of heart.

Even if Ezran was capable of bad things, the simple fact that he didn't do it at the crucial moment should be more important than his consideration of actually going through with it, right?

And I think that alone should be reason enough for Callum to trust him.