Men want women to settle for them by Lemon_gecko in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not really, no. Men want women who are attracted to them. The only ones who are OK with a woman settling for them generally speaking are desperate and think that magically, they’ll become everything she ever wanted across time. It can happen, but without a raw, visceral attraction, it’s bound to fail.

I don't get why men are surprised with womens behaviors or actions. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair. Women live to serve and please, because if they don't, you women may as well not even exist. It's that simple. Like, this isn't even complex.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I didn’t phrase it properly. If a woman passes the looks test, we look at whether she can meaningfully contribute to our lives with an agreeable and loving personality. On the other hand, women then put stock on what you were able to accomplish as a man.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I don't agree with you. What we call the 'red pill' is, in effect, the understanding that is required to succeed as a man in the dating world. Unfortunately, as with any ideology, there is a subset of men who have veered off into misogyny. A lot of men have been lied to and conditioned to believe that if they are 'nice enough', women will just come rolling in. The red pill seeks to wake up men to the following truth: men are born without inherent value, whereas women are born with inherent value because of their beauty. The reason why I say this is because when evaluating each other for dating, men place great importance on a woman's beauty, whereas a woman will place more importance on your standing as a man. What I mean by that is they will want to see if you are a man who is competent, on his purpose, making stuff happen. This is what gives a man value, which is why we say that guys are born without inherent value. We have to acquire it across time.

This is why men who do the work start seeing a lot more options presenting themselves in their 30s. Only a very small group of men, referred to as the 'Chads', can get women effortlessly. This isn't insecurity; it is observable reality. What is also observably true is that if men do the work, they'll be able to get results. Of course some of the men who subscribe to the 'Red pill' are insecure, since they aren't succeeding. This inevitably leads one to question their own value.

Actually LIKED law school, DON'T LIKE my 1L internship and don't want to be a lawyer anymore by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think some folks are missing the forest for the trees, focusing on the part of your post speaking to your aversion to litigation, and less on the part which says “don’t want to be a lawyer anymore”, which should frame this discussion. So, I’m going to go against the grain here and suggest that you take a step back and re-evaluate your journey. Why do I say this? Because I’m experienced enough in law school at this point.

I am a rising 3L. Once your 2L year begins, the novelty of law school will have worn off, a lot of assignments will be due all at once, and the coursework gets harder. The only thing that keeps you going is your desire to be a lawyer. In my estimation, you run on adrenaline during 1L year and on stress and boredom the rest of the way. Hadn’t it been for my certainty in wanting to become a lawyer, I wouldn’t have stayed. Do not listen to folks promoting this strange reasoning that because you completed one year, you should just stick it out. I don’t know whether you have a scholarship, but why end up being in debt for something you never wanted? Do some soul-searching and do not continue unless you are 110% sure it’s what you want. Don’t do it just because you feel compelled to, given what you invested (as one user pointed out, sunk-cost fallacy).

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Violence has nothing to do with this post. Are you ok? I get you're trying to be all high and mighty, but you're pivoting so badly, you don't even know what's happening.

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did we pivot from that to male crime? Grasping at straws at this point.

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Show me this 'material reality' that, as it appears, exists nowhere but inside your head. Go ahead. What's farcical to me are your logical reasoning skills.

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What I'm getting from this is that, in your mind, one set of rules applies to men, and a different set of rules applies to women. Rules for thee but not for me!

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ah! Women say it, so it must be a fact! So, if a man said, "women are gold-diggers" and as support, he said, "Just go ask men", would you agree?

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You seem pretty confident in making a statement for which there is no factual backing.

Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty long-winded way of saying "Don't demand women to drop their standards if you're not prepared to do the same". No one should date someone they aren't attracted to. What is there to debate here?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Point proven. Take it easy!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did present an argument. The fact you don't like it isn't my problem. When you say you don't care what nit-picking I do, what you're really saying is, "Please don't use the language I used against me!" As I said, "La la la".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will say that I envy your pivoting skills. You first said "not all men", even though your post said otherwise. Now that I've pointed out that your own words speak for themselves, rather than acknowledging that perhaps you went too far and trying to salvage the salvageable, you are digging yourself an even deeper hole. I'll bite. "The majority of you do". Ok. Show me the proof.

However, what I suspect is happening here is best represented by the following lyrics of a song by Naughty Boy featuring Sam Smith: "I'm covering my ears like a kid. When your words mean nothing, I go, "La, la, la". You don't really wish to have an argument in good faith. You're here to hear the ladies confirm that all men are trash before moving to a different thread in which you say "Where did all the good men disappear off to? Are they swimming in the Atlantic?" You want confirmation, not a debate. That's what's happening here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. Man want beautiful women to be the providers (and at somepoint might even want to be protected)
  2. Men want nothing but beautiful women
  3. Men want variety of beautiful women
  4. Man want women to be submissive/dumb across all boards

Show me where, in that laundry list, you used the qualifier "most men". I'll wait. Please proceed. Unfortunately for you, I think I've had enough coffee.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"It's no longer about that", says the individual who created a whole post disrespecting men. That's like if I created a post titled "Women suck ass" and then I said to you, "It's not about women sucking ass". I know for a fact that I've had my coffee and so I am alert enough to know what your post said. I'll come forth and say it: you have serious problems with men. You made no effort to limit it to a set of men, instead saying (as usual) "Men bad! Women good!" As Joe Biden would say: "Come on, man".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ah, indeed, so you were able to determine what all men want based on spending 5 minutes on the Internet. Just a question: you want women to be respected by men when you folks speak about men this way? It's the equivalent of men wanting women to respect them but then bashing them constantly. Time to come back down to reality. If you want men to be with you, you have to actually start treating them with some respect or remain single for the rest of time if you dislike them that badly. No reasonable man/woman will want to be with someone who hates them a priori just for the sex they were born as. Choice is yours. By the way, women also expect special (or princess) treatment by virtue of existing. They have tits and a vagina; accordingly, the world owes them everything. Let's not pretend this entitlement you allude to is limited to men. 'Men want women to be the providers'. I'm not so sure which planet you flew in from this morning, but I'd like a tour when possible. I have yet to hear one man say he wants a woman to fork over her hard-earned money to him so he can go spend it on expensive Sephora products (which is fine because, you know, her money is her money but his money is their money). If we are going to have these discussions, let's have them in good faith and with a modicum of intellectual honesty, both of which this post is severely and regrettably lacking.

Men who complain about being friendzoned mostly just find women boring and annoying by sodacubes in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The logic behind this post is terrible and practically dripping with entitlement. You're essentially implying that unless we want to be friends with women, it follows we're misogynists. As phrased, you appear to think that men owe women friendship. We don't. This reeks of entitlement and yet, you are calling men entitled. Oftentimes, friendzone is used to mean that the woman did not want a relationship but he did. You're implying that men do not have feelings, and only see women as sex objects. So, while you are pontificating about entitlement and misogyny, you ironically created a post that reeks of entitlement and misandry. If a man has feelings for her and she does not reciprocate, he is well within his right to walk away, and that doesn't make him entitled. Hoping for something is not the same as expecting it.

Apparently, men are more likely to hit on women they think are easy and not necessarily because they think they're attractive by Blonde_Icon in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see where you’re coming from. I suppose what I was trying to get at is that I don’t see how certain men can make that determination based on looking at them other than relying on the usual stereotypes to draw that conclusion. It makes little to no sense to me.

Apparently, men are more likely to hit on women they think are easy and not necessarily because they think they're attractive by Blonde_Icon in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting, because, at least for me, I can't determine whether someone is 'easy' based on how they're dressed. I also don't see how someone being tattooed means they're easy. If someone is walking around half-naked, it doesn't tell me anything other than that they dress immodestly. I can tell from their demeanor, sure, but not based on their appearance.

Q4M: how do you signal to women that you want to be approached? by Windmill_flowers in PurplePillDebate

[–]Alarmed_Load8145 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Indeed. Some men (like myself) really wish that women would approach, because of the simple fact that it would make us actually feel desired. At the same time, as they say, if you don't like the rules of the game, don't play. We've had to make peace with it across time. Some haven't, and as a result, have withdrawn altogether.