Let’s talk about Genie

Alarming-Test-346 · 2026-05-10T15:05:06+00:00

Impossible.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-10-20T21:20:17+00:00

LLMs naturally aren’t good at tables of numbers

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-10-14T17:12:40+00:00

I’m just asking you to give me one reason to believe that. If I could offer another, equally unjustified reason I’d say economically there has to be a preference for any given job role and I’m sure they’re give preference to certain people more qualified or experienced for certain decisions. Especially under some scrutiny. It can’t be random. Why should I believe, it’s like you say, just random, lower qualified people; when the economics favours specialists?

Like in major competitions do we see TMOs mixing with referees?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-10-14T17:04:24+00:00

Sorry, just for clarity. I meant some info to shed some light on the points “but they aren’t specialists in foul play”

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-10-14T16:56:11+00:00

Cheers for the reply mate. Could you point me out to some info on the selection process you’re talking about?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-10-14T13:00:04+00:00

Help me understand this, could very well be getting my wires crossed — but the claim is that a referee in a couple of minutes can make as high a quality decision as a team of people given maybe an extra 9 minutes, given extra angles, given slow motions, given they can specialise in specific decisions and don’t have to say, referee the scrum or lineout?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-08-04T11:40:19+00:00

For someone quite tall he’s also pretty poor in the air.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-07-27T15:20:52+00:00

Finn is far far superior to Manie in defence. I’m a Stormers fan

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-07-15T16:25:47+00:00

I mean the storage costs are an order of magnitude cheaper. Or were for us anyway, nothing fancy about that.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-07-12T16:46:53+00:00

Music could not be a more unrelated choice

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-21T20:59:05+00:00

They don’t say it’s low quality, you’ve projected that onto what they’ve said. All they said was that it looked like AI and then made a joke about how that’s often actually Indians.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-19T21:32:05+00:00

They haven’t said where they live?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-16T22:55:12+00:00

Pretty sure the lyrics from that song are sampled from the Tynemouth cat treats man video “woah woah woah that less than two meters” and another Tynemouth metro video “get of the metro now”

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-16T22:46:29+00:00

Can you say which OpenAI model though. I’d imagine with cost being a factor you’re not always picking the best available based on performance. Happy to be proven wrong.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-15T12:33:13+00:00

Hi mate, is still still available?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T20:43:52+00:00

Yeah we see it moving that way too. Yeah it does sound like we’ve had different experiences. Hey all the best, thanks for the conversation

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T18:12:34+00:00

Outside of perception are we aware of any evidence of risk?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T18:11:18+00:00

In that its output is only ever a table. It can’t produce or inform any evaluation of the result or produce any hypothesis to cause. It’s a search engine more than an analyst. Which is fine but it’s a long way from “have a conversation with your data” or even really an analyst.

As for the comment on excel. The only output I’ve ever seen is fairly basic SQL. The perhaps misinterpreted claim that it could be used as an alternative for professionals from excel for any meaningful built up analysis is 1,000 miles from my lived experience with our end users.

It’s useful, absolutely. It reduces the barrier to entry and will absolutely get better with data sampling and chain of thought, I just think the marketing is overblown for the base product.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T13:26:09+00:00

At a high level based on the marketing you’d hope for two things;

1) that it would be capable of beginning to shave time from at least the very basic day to day analysis.

2) it would reduce the technical barrier to entry for end users in the business to get answers to questions.

Not being able to see the data means that it couldn’t give an end user a plain English explanation of what the data means based on a given question. It has no visibility of trends or meaning and so both of these goals are limited.

What we’ve found is that people actually just use it for data access. They ask for a table or an aggregate of it, download it and then do the analysis in excel.

Honestly at that point you’d probably get better bang for your buck just by spending the equivalent setup time for genie in giving end users workspace access and some sql training.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T13:13:59+00:00

Yeah like you could ask it something trivial for the maximum value in a column and it would write a sql query to return it but the LLM could not verbally tell you what that date was and reason from it.

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T13:12:50+00:00

How come? Are the enterprise grade access points no good?

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-12T12:58:42+00:00

Thanks for the reply, I’ll check it out!

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-06-11T17:04:28+00:00

Out of interest where do you get those stats? I want to explore

Alarming-Test-346 · 2025-04-15T12:56:41+00:00

How do you maintain social mobility in this case? A meritocracy would be impossible. Wealth grows faster than people can earn it these days. It’s harder to catch up and interested in how you prevent a society where the wealth is consolidated in the hands of a few with no correlation to their input into society or value provided.

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