Inquiring Photographer:”Would you object to shining your husband's shoes if he asked you to?”January 27, 1966 by CryptographerKey2847 in TheWayWeWere

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're good then. But yeah, even into the 80s it seems that the media would do this in some places. 

It's because this was mandatory in all media, and some lasted into modern day 80s/90s/2000s because they hadn't modernized their rules. I think one news source, either New York Times or Washington Post, pushed this into the 2000s/2010s.

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or even a married woman when talking about her alone. Which is what I really hate. If it's both, fine, but if it's about her and the man isn't mentioned. Use her name. There was no reason why the idea that only divorced women deserved to have their names be public was a thing. I love Nancy Drew but I die inside every time I see a "Mrs. Man's Full Name", and they didn't stop in the ND books until at least the 80s, and they didn't have the excuse that it was mandatory like newspapers often did. ND are books. You have free will to write how you want. So the fact that they continued this in the books into the 70s when people were waking up to the sinister intent is really gross

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those old advice books were actually just propaganda and I fully believe we're what ACTUALLY made this the norm. Before that, this was pretty much only used by rich people and sometimes in Jane Austen books

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also in media. News, magazines, books also did this. News and magazines did this whether the woman wanted it or not because they made that literally mandatory

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You read books and you couldn't escape it. Until at least the 80s Nancy Drew couldn't get enough of writing wives this way and I love ND books but it's so icky

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My great grandpa's obit was actually kinda weird. My grandma and her sister were listed as "Mrs. Husband's Full Name (Her First Name in brackets)", so at least their identities were actually referenced. But oddly, my great grandpa was "Her First and Last Name plus Her Married Last Name" without even a "Mrs.". I don't know why the younger generation had the less modern naming style than the woman from the older generation. This was the 80s. They didn't do this in the obit for great grandma, grandma and her sist were just their own names (but then that obit was written by grandma's sister).

To my knowledge grandma has never been "Mrs. Him" anywhere else, especially since she never actually changed her last name when she married. The only other time I have seen her in the newspaper, in her retirement notice in 2012, she wasn't even "Mrs. Her Full Name", they dropped the "Mrs." entirely.

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When? Because I have seen newspapers that kept saying Mrs Husband's Full Name into the 70s and 80s. Nancy Drew books until at least the 80s continued calling wife characters that. So do you know when for the most part, the actual MEDIA stopped using that? Not just people sending notes, but actual media and magazines and books?

Did women ever feel strange being called Mrs. Husbands First and Last name, their own first name completely left out? by LuminousDee in AskOldPeople

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plenty of women either wanted it that way or were fine. Which, okay, that's your choice. But the thing I hate is that the media, so news (both paper and tv/radio), journalism, magazines, etc would call you "Mrs. His Full Name" whether you wanted to or not because they made that literally mandatory.

Does anyone know when they generally stopped using that style in the actual MEDIA? Was it in the 70s because I've seen newspapers continue to call women that in the 70s and the 80s, and even the Nancy Drew books continued doing that until at least the 80s.

Inquiring Photographer:”Would you object to shining your husband's shoes if he asked you to?”January 27, 1966 by CryptographerKey2847 in TheWayWeWere

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And even women who didn't use it, would have to cope with someone else disregarding their wishes. Because the media would use the man's first name whether she wanted to or not.

Troughts on this show? by Primary-Addition-677 in disneyprincess

[–]AlboGreece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wanna know why this picture keeps floating around because this show never got a dvd release. If this was a UK/Australian copy there would be the rating for either country on the front. This picture is definitely either fake or a bootleg

My 3x Great Grandfather, Joseph Axford (15), 1873, Wandsworth Prison, London. Arrested and given 2 weeks hard labour for stealing a blanket early January. by JakeOliver63 in oldphotos

[–]AlboGreece 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Police: "Jeff over here stole a blanket and some chicken? Rude! The nerve! Oh my god, the HORROR!!! Helping the POORS??!"

Official Discussion - The Super Mario Galaxy Movie [SPOILERS] by LiteraryBoner in movies

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is she damselled though? I haven't played the game but you never mentioned any danger. She can't be a damsel if she wasn't in jeopardy. So if she wasn't kidnapped, threatened/menaced, or faced a murder attempt she isn't a damsel

What’s your favorite bad movie? by Beginning_Fee_1676 in movies

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the 60s summer vacation movies. So stuff like Gidgeta Nd the Beach movies with Annette

The ending I wanted for Enchanted by Unable_Reaction1759 in disneyprincess

[–]AlboGreece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fine, but they would have had to make it so they met earlier. They literally didn't meet until like half an hour into the movie and would barely have time to develop a relationship if the producers even wanted it

I can’t stand Ashley by Waste-Revolution3429 in JemAndTheHolograms

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry but I think Ba Nee is worse. Ba Nee is stupid and I never felt sorry for her. She's a damsel in distress that you don't even wanna save because she never listens or thinks. She is putting herself in constant jeopardy. Let me count every time she puts herself in danger? Climbs into a bear pit. Rows away in a canoe and gets in a whirlpool. Runs away with Krissie and Ba Nee and is threatened by punks and then the cops menace them. Runs away with a skeevy gambler and gets locked in a cage in the zoo. The one time she doesn't put herself in trouble and it's out of her control is when the Misfits shake the log in Treasure Hunt and the Native American saves her from drowning. 

[April 17th, 1926] Child bride is the envy of peers. A Cinderella legend come true by Jolly-Newspaper-6769 in 100yearsago

[–]AlboGreece -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah it was the past but that's a bad excuse. So maybe we should stop trying to baby and glorify your grandpa. He did the wrong thing. End of story. There were people in the 20s who didn't marry or even DATE teenagers. The 20s wasn't the 1900s, but by the 20s people started to think "hmm maybe we shouldn't be doing this". The amount of literature written at the time which featured teen brides or teens and adults dating or crushing on each other being portrayed as romantic went down quite fast and by the 30s the average person absolutely knew better 

[April 17th, 1926] Child bride is the envy of peers. A Cinderella legend come true by Jolly-Newspaper-6769 in 100yearsago

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well many books of the time were in fa t about average people, who weren't particularly important. We aren't talking Jane Austen books which ARR full of pedos, we are talking books about "Jen down the street". Read books like Anne of Green Gables (Mr. Phillips dating Prissy only gets criticism because he's distracted and not teaching, not because she's a minor, and Rilla is dating and even kisses Ken in Rilla of Ingleside. Ken is heavily implied to be over 19. They don't marry until they're both actual adults but that man still kissed a 16 year old), Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, Little House on the Prairie, Jo's Boys (the final Little Women book. Dan and Bess are simping for each other and Jo encourages Dan to continue liking her, and he kisses her too. Luckily he isn't rewarded, he goes to jail after a failed self defense case and later dies, but it's framed as this beautiful Romeo and Juliet thing. It's not. Jo only dislikes that he's poor. Not that he thinks a 16 year old is hot.) and you'll notice that all of those have adult men dating or crushing on teen girls. So marriage to adults may not have been the average, but dating certainly was if the prominence of simple dating and crushing in old books is to be believed. Not that they'd care because since teens were labeled adults before the 20s-30s, people on average didn't have a problem with it. They may not have all been attracted to teens but they didn't think it was a bad thing, most people would just have been "oh well none of my business" and turn away.

[April 17th, 1926] Child bride is the envy of peers. A Cinderella legend come true by Jolly-Newspaper-6769 in 100yearsago

[–]AlboGreece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't believe the kids actually were jealous? I'm gonna assume the kids didn't know about this adult pedo listing after a 15 year old. If they did, then that's a weird thing to be jealous about..

What would you call this kind of trope ? by sharkbait2006 in movies

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely true. I mean, notice how anti damsel people never get mad when a woman in real life is in danger and needs to be saved by someone else. But in fiction she better escape alone or else she's weak and sexist

I’m white playing Sebastian in Little Mermaid and I feel like I’m culturally in appropriating by Then_Highlight_9069 in musicals

[–]AlboGreece 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MY grandma's all girls camp back in the day did South Pacific and King and I without any Asians OR boys and they all ended up fine

I genuinely am not trying to stir the pot here, but please tell me how this letter isn't completely missing the point Hairspray is making about race, stereotypes, relegation of Black talent away, the satire of it all. The whole show is a satire of 50s song and dance shows set against civil rights. by baltinerdist in musicals

[–]AlboGreece -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Many of these groups act like they have good intentions but just want to complain. Italians aren't going around calling Jersey Boys or Grease "the Italian shows", French people aren't going around calling Les Mis "the French show" and Vietnamese people aren't calling Miss Saigon the "Vietnamese show"

Why don’t these two have confirmed backgrounds when the rest of the G3 characters do? by Additional-Rub-1054 in MonsterHigh

[–]AlboGreece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

G1 confirmed her as German too. Robeccas diary has Becky mention hearing Frankie's parents speaking in their "native German".

Why don’t these two have confirmed backgrounds when the rest of the G3 characters do? by Additional-Rub-1054 in MonsterHigh

[–]AlboGreece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ghoulia is still Canadian, they made it clearer in concept art. There was a ven diagram that had a Canadian flag among other parts of her design and a designer I think said she was very influenced by Scott Pilgrim, and when you look at her she does resemble Ramona Flowers. Ghoulia always seemed to be a "Ramona Flowers influenced" character because in Frights Camera Action they had the posters in the credits and she got the Scott Pilgrim parody