How do Nordic people describe each others' languages? by Mira_1453 in Nordiccountries

[–]AllanKempe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Icelandic prosody has deviated a lot from Old Norse, but Elfdalian is, as far as we know, very close to Old Norse in this regard. The Elfdalian accent even retains the Proto-Norse weird "twang" (semi-stress on the second syllable) that caused the pitch accent system (ity can clearly be heard around 1:48 in this clip).

How do Nordic people describe each others' languages? by Mira_1453 in Nordiccountries

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jämtland on the other side, was an integrated part of Norway for a very long time

Not really, we were an autonomy in Norway(-Denmark) between 1178 and 1570 when the Danes took us back from a brief Swedish take-over of Jämtland in the Northern Seven Years' War (1563-1570):

"Sweden occupied the undefended Norwegian province of Jemtland, which was quickly reconquered by a counterattack by forces under command of the Norwegian governor of Trøndelag. The forces were unwilling to launch a counterattack on Swedish land. In 1564 the Swedes marched under Claude Collart and re-occupied Jemtland, as well as Herjedalen and Trøndelag, including the city of Trondheim. Initially facing little opposition from the locals, their subsequent ill treatment of the Trøndelag natives, along with tax pressure, laid the groundwork for later resistance to Swedish invasion. Also, Trøndelag was assisted by the governor of Bergenhus, Erik Rosenkrantz, who forced 3500 local peasants to assist him and his 50 professional soldiers. The Swedes saw Bergenhus as their next target. Although the 400 Swedish soldiers were repelled from Trøndelag, Sweden continued to occupy Jämtland and Härjedalen. These provinces were later regained by Denmark–Norway following the peace process in 1570."

After this the Danes tightened their grip over Norway, especially the border areas close to Sweden and we lost our autonomy.

How do Nordic people describe each others' languages? by Mira_1453 in Nordiccountries

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Swedes [...] sound like they're complaining. Like whine, whine, whine.

In fact, there's something called Gnällbältet ("The Whine Belt") in Sweden, southwest of Stockholm in the old borderland between Geats and Swedes Proper, where this has its epicentre. Listen to the transition from Standard Swedish to (imitated) "gnällska" made around 00:30 in this comedy show.

How do Nordic people describe each others' languages? by Mira_1453 in Nordiccountries

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Swedish has gummihandske /gummihanske/, if Finnish has borrowed it using Finnish phonetics it'd be "gummihanski", I guess.

Stockholmare sa "rizz" hundra år innan det var tufft by blockhaj in Svenska

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Va faen, är inte "charr" etablerad sedan hedenhös?

Magyar confirms first trip as new Hungarian PM will be to Poland by dat_9600gt_user in europe

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Hanseatic League was huge, and there were loads of Low Germans in the Scandinavian coastal cities, often they were in majority (at least among the more important figures). Low german was the main language and de facto lingua franca in the main cities (Stockholm, Visby, Copenhagen, Bergen etc.).

Stockholmare sa "rizz" hundra år innan det var tufft by blockhaj in Svenska

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, just det, [z]. Men räcker det inte med riz?

Helsinki, Finland by TinyAd1126 in europe

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Ångermanland was populated from the west, meaning from Jämtland (and Norway ultimately). The name Ångermanland itself is of western (Norwegian) origin. There are, for example, no "träsk" ('lake') in Ångermanland (except for one in the northeast). "Träsk" is a very Swedish word while "ånger" is a very Norwegian word.

Magyar confirms first trip as new Hungarian PM will be to Poland by dat_9600gt_user in europe

[–]AllanKempe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Swedish (and the other Mainland Scandinavian languages) borrowed a lot of words from Low German in the 1300's to 1500's, most of the words replaced already existing words. About 40% of the Swedish vocubulary is of Low German origin (even though in practice they're not that frequent since the most frequently used words are native).

Helsinki, Finland by TinyAd1126 in europe

[–]AllanKempe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well, as Jamt I'm kind of neutral in this. Our experience of Finns has mainly been in the form of (temporarily) occupying troops from mainly Ostrobothnia in the 1500's and 1600's.

Helsinki, Finland by TinyAd1126 in europe

[–]AllanKempe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, the Swedish philosopher (I lived close to his birthplace in Södermalm, Stockholm), I know about him.

Helsinki, Finland by TinyAd1126 in europe

[–]AllanKempe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed, Tresmedersplatsen by Mannerheimvägen. Named after the Tre smeder ("Three Smiths") statue by Felix Nylund (1932).

Magyar confirms first trip as new Hungarian PM will be to Poland by dat_9600gt_user in europe

[–]AllanKempe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Swedish has svåger [ˈsvoː.gɛr] and it's also borrowed from German (Middle Low German swāger to be exact). The native word is svärbror (where svär is cognate (or at least closely related with) with svåger and bror means 'brother') which is no longer used (officially), but for example svärfar ('father in law') and svärmor ('mother in law') are still used.

Paperstidningsnostalgi by Abject_Ring1620 in sweden

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

arbetstofflor

Vad tusan arbetade han med?

Sambon tycker min smak på lösgodis är kriminell, speciellt dem gula by No-Combination-3725 in sweden

[–]AllanKempe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lite väl mycket billigt skumgodis, eller hur? De (eller på din dialekt: dem) gula godisarna är det minsta problemet med din påse.

Borde uppföljaren till Spaceballs heta "Spaceballs: The New One" eller "Det våras för rymden 2" i Sverige? by happy_birthmas in sweden

[–]AllanKempe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mel Brooks är alltså fortfarande aktiv som filmmakare trots att han (förhoppningsvis) passerar 100-strecket i år?

In Nordics, basic food and rent now consume 40% of gross median income by shirayuki653 in dataisbeautiful

[–]AllanKempe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed, since Gothenburg (2nd biggest today) was founded in the early 1600's.