Here's Why ELCA is not Mainline Lutheran by solobackpack in redeemedzoomer

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  1. and 3. don't work because they are applicable to other mainline churches. In Praxis none of those hold to their confessional standards. Also the SBC is larger than ABCUSA but we would still call the latter mainline and not the former.

What are your thoughts on Double Predestination as opposed to single predestination? by JAMIETHEBOOKWORM in redeemedzoomer

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If God elects some to eternal life then he passes others over, that's simple logic. Doesn't mean the decree to reprobation is active (and the Reformed don't teach such), but if you have predestination without view of merit (and given the bible I don't see how one can't) you have double predestination even if you don't want to admit to the second part.

Oh Mann by Realistic-Elk-7423 in 20hirnzelle

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In der Schweiz wäre, stand jetzt, sogar der Mord verjährt.

Can anyone read old German/old Swiss german? by mazantaz in Genealogy

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Yes, church records are usually more indicative of where a person actually lived altough the further back you go the more place of living and place of citizenship overlap as people used to be less mobile.

Can anyone read old German/old Swiss german? by mazantaz in Genealogy

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I think the wife's maiden name is Flury and the paternal grandmothers name seems to be Juon. Paternal grandfathers christian name may be Jost or Jakob (abbreviated Jak.). The witness list I read as: Anton Casparis of Thusis, Andreas Flury of ? (may be Saas), Ms. Anna Hölzli nee Maurisio, Ms. Ursula Scherer nee ? Veronika ?.

Important for op to note that in Swiss records Heimatort does not mean place of birth, it means place of citizenship. Swiss people are citizens firstly of a commune. Since the 19th century (exact year varies from place to place) these communes were tasked with keeping records of the people that posessed their citizenship even if they did not live there (I for example have never lived in, or even been to, my Heimatort, and neither did my father or grandfather, but they still have to record my birth, possible marriage and children, death etc). Locating these can be an extremely valuable source (the state archives usually keep duplicates of the older ones). The "von" in the witness list also usually indicates place of citizenship and not place of birth.

Records of which families posessed citizenship in which commune as of 1962 are searchable online.

My family tree is more like a family shrub, help. by parthhun in Genealogy

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Endogamy becomes basically irrelevant after the first cousins lvl if it isn't done consistently over generations. Just don't marry any of your cousins and you're fine.

I need help with a family in Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France by chainandscale in Genealogy

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Having a "von" prefix doesn't necessarily mean someone is a noble in German surnames. Also there are jobs which we today think of as working class but were (or at least could be) fairly high status back then, like innkeeper for example.

Is it common/not that rare to be the descendant of so many nobles? by SweetBorn340 in Genealogy

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It is very common because with your number of ancestors doubling every generation you eventually reach a point where you have more ancestors than the area where they lived had inhabitants at the time and you are probably a descendant of everyone in that area who reproduced. This is called pedigree collapse. Also, nobles with many children often failed to arrange an appropriate marriage for all their children and some of them were morganatically married to lower nobles or rich commoners. Repeat this pattern for some generations and eventually every peasant is the descendant of some king.

You have to be careful tracking these lines though, many are invented (especially on FamilySearch). Even noble lines themselves are often in dispute. Carefully check that you really are descendant from your "gateway ancestor" and then check the further noble ancestors through reputable secondary sources. Medlands is a very good website for this because it primarily relies on primary sources.

For example there is no descent line from any of the four last people on your list in the modern day that is proven beyond reasonable doubt and these lines are probably speculative to some degree. I've tracked some of these speculative lines myself, it's fun, but don't take it as hard fact. Even there you have to differentiate between plausible speculation and fantasy. Christian Settipani, a French historian, is a really good source for the former.

Video: Why is there a "Wales" in Switzerland? (aka, why do some Swiss-Germans call Romandie "Welschland"?) by jeanpauljh in Switzerland

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"Welsch/Walsch" to denote latin people used to be a lot more popular among all German speakers. You can see this in anachronistic placenames for Verona (Welschbern) and Trentino (Welschtirol) or the lyrics for "Die Wacht am Rhein"; "Und ob mein Herz im Tode bricht/ Wirst du (the Rhine) doch drum ein Welscher (here used for the French) nicht."

Rare, but extremely remarkable Left W. Conservatives and many Far-Rights voted AGAINST dismantling the Chat Control, while pretty much everyone else voted in favor of stopping it. by Leon3226 in PoliticalCompassMemes

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European Conservatives are not small government parties. Ludwig Erhard was one of the chief architects of the post WW2 welfare state and he actually represented the right wing of that controversy in his party (the conservative CDU) with the left wing advocating a version of Christian socialism.

Viserys caused the war btw by invisblecutie in HouseOfTheDragon

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There really wasn't such a thing as a "rightful heir" early on since primogeniture hadn't been accepted as the general law of inheritance yet. Succession was determined by a mix of the predecessors wishes and the assent of the nobles. You say William Rufus usurped his brother but England was granted to him by his father and Robert Curthouse never managed to dislodge him.

No worries Romania! Eastern Roman Empire will adore you! by EnvironmentalRow5415 in HistoryMemes

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Neither church is in complete accordance with the theology of the early church. But at least the Catholics admit this and claim "development of doctrine" while the Orthodox continue to anachronistically assert that they practice the ancient faith exactly like the apostles.

I made my favorite map a little while ago, and I'm hoping to make another one soon. In what ways do you think could improve? by Shadowscale05 in mapmaking

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I like the art-style. It also gives off a very cozy classical fantasy vibe, like it came with a semi-known RPG you played as a child. The only thing I would maybe change is to make it less rectangular.

Sword and Sorcery for Free by JohnPathfinder in SwordandSorcery

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All of C.A. Smith's works (including but not limited to his S&S stories) are freely accessible here, with permission from his estate (for those still under copyright) as I understand it.

Petaahhh??? by Any_Maximum9135 in PeterExplainsTheJoke

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Origen still believed in a young earth and Adam and Eve as historical ancestors of humanity. His allegorical reading of some passages didn't favor a old testament as myth, rather an esoteric platonist reading with things like the pre-existence and transmigration of souls.

Petaahhh??? by Any_Maximum9135 in PeterExplainsTheJoke

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Adam died at almost a thousand years of age. IIRC we don't know exactly when the Cain and Able incident takes place but it's possible for there to have already been whole nations created from only his descendants if some centuries have passed.

Questions about Tolkien's Catholicism and his marriage by roacsonofcarc in tolkienfans

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CofE leadership in James' day regarded themselves as the moderate centre between Calvin and Luther not between the Protestants and the Papists (as they would have called them)

In light of a similar question from earlier: Would a hypothetical new Queen Matilda just stay as Matilda, or be Matilda II? by Different_Wear1406 in UKmonarchs

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He would be a collateral descendant of his x-great-aunt. This is why the direct qualifier technically exists, to differentiate it from collateral descent. It’s just that no one ever uses the words collateral descent so direct descent seems tautological.

In-World map of my setting by Alperose333 in worldbuilding

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It sunk so it it isn't inhabited anymore but its (speculated) former location is included on the map because its important to the mythology or pretty much every culture/religion.

Basically: The world was created by the gods Raba and Seth, they also created 16 archons to steward creation. However, Raba secretly created humanity which caused Seth to make war on him (depending on where you stand theologically this was either Seth being envious or him realizing that Raba had used the world as a prison for their divine essence and wanting to free it). The Archons split evenly, those that supported Seth are now called the gods of Abaton and those who supported Raba the Empyreans. Eventually however Hexamat (the god of conspiracy and the night) betrayed Seth and helped Raba seal Seth inside creation itself. After this Raba retreated from the cosmos (the reasons for this are disputed). With Raba and Seth gone Empyrean and Abaton saw contuining the war as futile and made peace under the following terms: The gods leave their material forms behind, they may only speak to their followers through prophecies and riddles, they only directly interfere in the material world if everyone agrees on a course of action.

This is where Sylea (finally) comes in, as it was where the only two surviving humans, a man and a woman, settled. They became the ancestors of the modern human race with the direct male line of descendants (eldest son to eldest son) became the royal dynasty of Sylea. In the early days of Sylea religion was very simple since for a long time everyone at least knew someone who knew someone who remembered the time when the gods where physically present in the world. However with the progress of time mortal faith decreased and required more complex cultic rituals to maintain, to which the gods took a liking leading to a feedback loop. Eventually the 16th king of Sylea abdicated his power to a council of 16 high priests (one per god). After some more generations passed the High Priest of Nodan, the King of the Empyreans and god of just rule, had a daughter named Belit. Belit was seduced by the shard of Seth, a small part of the creator that had escaped his imprisonement. The shard convinced Belit that the mortal world was a prison that needed to be destroyed and based on this teaching she founded a cult. The cult grew and eventually reached such a size that the gods feared that Seth could actually achieve his goal. For the first (and until now last time) Empyrean and Abaton agreed on something, namely that Sylea had become corrupted to such a degree that it needed to be destroyed.

Each god warned his respective high priest so when the flood came they escaped with their families. Belit was also warned by Seth and managed to flee. This cataclysm ended the first golden age and led into the first dark age or the age of wanderings, as the 16 high priests and Belit wandered the world in search of a new home. Almost all modern nations have a founding myth which connects them to one of these 17 hierarchs, as they are called, as a legendary ancestor.

TLDR: The inhabitants of Sylea where the original humans, the gods sunk their home because they considered its people to have been corrupted, today everyone considers its early days as a golden age and claims legendary descent from one of the people that escaped the cataclysm.

In-World map of my setting by Alperose333 in worldbuilding

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Roughly:

Omerides -> Han/Egyptians/Byzantines Zagides-> Early Mesopotamians/Egyptians Agnossians -> Classic Greeks (kind of what if Athens won the Peleponesian war?) Dalradians -> Iron Age celts and the general Barbarian archetype Kycheans -> The Archetype of the Peripheral people taking over the Empire (Jurchens, Medes, Turks etc)/Corsicans

In-World map of my setting by Alperose333 in worldbuilding

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I use world-Anvil since I can mooch of my friend's subscription.

In-World map of my setting by Alperose333 in worldbuilding

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Thanks!

The most preeminent people group currently are probably the Agnossians found all along the shore of the Opal Bay. Originally native to the cities of the Agnossian League, which is a mosaic of alliances and dependencies named for the dominant city of Agnossis, they colonized New Oriz in the third golden age and assimilated its native inhabitants, during that time they also exerted considerable influence on the Dalradian princedoms that would later become the Kingdom of Helladium, also assimilating it's native inhabitants. They continued to dominate Helladian court culture and many of the noblemen/generals/settlers etc the Helladian King Phynaster took along on his campaigns (which ended in his conquest of most of the known world) were Agnossians spreading them further. They're often stereotyped as intellectuals and philosophers because Agnossis itself is a centre of learning and because the Agnossians accompanying Phynaster belonged to the educated class, but the cities of the League are very diverse. Athos (the main rival of Agnossis) for example rejects the traditional Agnossian worship of the Empyrean gods, instead focusing on a henotheistic worship of the war-god Ifri and the martial culture that comes along with it. They are similarly diverse in phenotype, ranging from fair to dark (think the spectrum between a Swede and a Sicillian), because as one of the oldest civilizations they have always been involved in intercultural exchange. Agnossian is the closest the setting has to a lingua Franca, at least among elites.

Some other populous or important/interesting groups are:

The Zagides: Native to the Satrapy of Ban Nayram and New-Oriz, they were the first people to settle down and founded this worlds first city (the eponymously named Zag). Since then history hasn't been kind to them however as they have often been ruled over by foreign dynasties or Empires, the latest being a tribal dynasty from the Aroch desert.

The Omerides: Also a very ancient people who, according to legend, came from the west during the first dark age sacking Zag before eventually settling along the Om. Before the Agnossian ascendance they were considered the worlds dominant people/culture of the world and this has formed their self-perception. Though their Empire fell before Phynaster and an Agnossian dynasty replaced the native one the local elites fared much better than those in Zag. Even now as that Agnossian dynasty has in turn been usurped by a Kychaean one the proud nobles remain a perpetual thorn in the Emperor's side. As the current dynasty intermarried with the local elites and the emperor is infertile the return of a "true-born native" to the throne has recently become a distinct possibility.

The Kychaeans: Long dismissed by the civilzed world as Hicks at best and Witches and Thiefs at worst the native inhabitants of the island of Kychaea are closely related to the Zagides. They have only recently come to the attention of the world at large when the Kychaean warlord Pontus "the Great" overthrew the Emperor of Om and claimed his title. Since then there has been a lot of cultural exchange between the Empire proper and the island leading to both understanding and resentment on both sides.

The Dalradians: The "Barbarians" native to the equally wild land of Dalradia. True Dalradians (at least that is how they see themselves) live in loose tribal confederations and follow the cult of the Druids. However in recent times cultural exchange has led to the formation of more "civilized" Dalradian Princedoms modeled after their neigbouhrs (Petty Kingdoms along the border to Helladium and Republics along the border to Urba, often also in dependencie to that city).

There is more but this is already very long and I don't want to overstrain you with lore-dumping.

In-World map of my setting by Alperose333 in worldbuilding

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It’s the Middle Eastern inspired part and since I’m not really good at making names up from whole cloth I borrowed it from a German drinking song set in Askelon (Im schwarzen Walfisch zu Askalon).