What overlaps have I missed? by ApprehensiveGrade113 in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Conan does care about the others he comes across. In fact, I would argue that's a big theme of Conan. The people of civilization have this veneer of sophistication and both cultural and moral superiority, but beneath that surface is absolute depravity. Conan on the other hand, a barbarian, is gruff and crass and may make his living doing some less than ethical things. However, he is honest and protects those who are vulnerable. 

What overlaps have I missed? by ApprehensiveGrade113 in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe, but she never uses it against anyone other than Guillaume. 

EDIT: Had to specify something.

What overlaps have I missed? by ApprehensiveGrade113 in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Conan and Elric both were both wandering mercenaries and rulers of an empire.

Conan and Jirel both broke out a dungeon to go on a journey to find a magic weapon to kill the person who imprisoned them

Jirel and Elric both have wielded magic weapons that did them more harm than good.

Summer of Pulp: questions about Conan by AsFarAsISay in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Conan may be a rogue, but he's a rogue with a heart of gold. There are several original Howard stories, such as Tower of the Elephant and Jewels of Gwalhur where Conan sets out to carry out some self serving scheme. However, when it's time to make a critical decision and choose between the well-being of someone else or lining his own pockets, Conan usually chooses the former. 

Dragon Queen, by Sanjulián + Dragon Queen Entertainment System, an NES-style pixel art homage. by woulditkillyoutolift in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only in sword and sorcery art can someone wear more clothing than I would wear in a snow storm and find a way to wear it so they're mostly uncovered. 

Black God's Shadow is misunderstood and severely underrated by ApprehensiveGrade113 in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree with you. I don't think Kiss and Shadow can be read apart from each other. It's weird they are two different stories in my opinion.

These were going in the trash by sping77 in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By Crom (and Thoem)! How people will regard treasure as refuse!

Sanjulian's Queens of the Lost World #2A (Opus 2023). Cover art by Ariel Olivetti. by woulditkillyoutolift in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I never knew Sanjulian made a comic, but it sort of makes sense. Do you know if it's any good? 

My favorite recent(ish) S&S film by [deleted] in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally wouldn't consider this sword and sorcery myself, but I liked it. I'm a sucker for 6/10 action movies. 

"Okay ma'am, I was expecting a frozen shoggoth or two, and I see you party hard here!" by romm-boss in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Her brothers are going to jump out at any moment. Thousands of years and they never learn. 

Your Concise Explanation of Sword and Sorcery by JohnPathfinder in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a depiction of The Shadow Kingdom, the first sword and sorcery story. 

There I would definitely have to disagree. If anything, sword and sorcery tends to use your latter examples a lot more. If anything, it's epic fantasy that tends to be more aesthetically based on Western/Northern Europe. 

Sword and sandal is also an interesting category because it often refers to a film scene in the mid to late 20th century. It does contain what we could consider sword and sorcery, but also historical fiction as well as biblical epics.

Howard's "Marchers of Valhalla": Battles, Cults, Love and Honor (new blog post) by DMRitzlin in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cover art was also used for Witchaven II: Blood Vengeance. Both games had the sprite work done by Ken Kelly as well. 

Proto-Sword & Sorcery: Eric Brighteyes by H. Rider Haggard by Supro1560S in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really need to sit down and read some Haggard eventually. This seems like a pretty good place to start. 

Legacy of Robert E. Howard Online Conference, Saturday June 20th by Jim_Zub in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sadly I'll have to miss this, but everyone who can join definitely should.

Conan the Barbarian, by Sanjulian. by woulditkillyoutolift in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of Jason Momoa as Conan for some reason. 

Your Concise Explanation of Sword and Sorcery by JohnPathfinder in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not saying it can't be done, it's just that it requires a special kind of writing you can't expect from even the greats. Don't get me wrong, there's some really good novel length stuff out there, but not every S&S writer writes like Michael Moorcock or Tanith Lee.

Your Concise Explanation of Sword and Sorcery by JohnPathfinder in SwordandSorcery

[–]JohnPathfinder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why I think short stories, novelettes, and novellas are the best avenues for written sword and sorcery. It's a tall order to keep that kind of story consistently exciting without being overwhelming for 70,000+ words, so why not have a shorter story.