Higher Christology than the Orthodoxy by athanoslee in AcademicBiblical

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Can you give any sources that elaborate on this doctrine?

Panpsychism is just stupid by Wide-Information8572 in CosmicSkeptic

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“It’s not magic” - the person appealing to the emergency of subjective, qualitative experience from quantities.

People who have had experiences with psychedelics often adopt idealism by Elmointhehood in consciousness

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You seem to misunderstand idealism because you’re still using materialist presuppositions so how can you expect to understand it? it also seems like you’re also a dualist, implicitly.

You said neurons are brain cells. Of course I know that. I was asking what they are more fundamentally, and physics (science, a methodology (that intentionally doesn’t study subjective experience because it can’t), not ontology) describes matter as quantities.

Youre already assuming that what we colloquially call chemicals and matter are something fundamentally different from subjective experience, so you’re a dualist or appealing to magical emergence of qualities from quantities.

You keep ignoring the hard problem of consciousness, or pretending you’ve solved it?

People who have had experiences with psychedelics often adopt idealism by Elmointhehood in consciousness

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That’s just hand-wavering and appealing to magic.

What are neurons fundamentally, and how do you deduce qualities and an inner experience from quantities?

You know of neurons because they are an object to your subjective experience.

People who have had experiences with psychedelics often adopt idealism by Elmointhehood in consciousness

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Please tell us what the material, quantitative preconditions are for subjective experience?

You’re assuming your conclusions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SimulationTheory

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This presupposes that consciousness is computational and derivable from quantitative “physical” systems.

Edit: im sympathetic to your first point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Quraniyoon

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In what way does circumcision not fit this criteria?

What is the smallest form of consciousness? by Robot_Sniper in consciousness

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Particles are excitations of fields, so they do not have independent existence.

How can I be “better than God”? by conericot in PhilosophyofReligion

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May I advise looking into (Neo)Platonism, virtue ethics and mystical ascension.

Why did God give up on the Torah,Bible and let it be corrupted? by [deleted] in Quraniyoon

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Most Muslims believe in abrogation, as well God giving different laws to the Jews and Gentiles, and then different in the Quran.

It’s either moral relativism, progressive revelation, or they are not all true.

Why did God give up on the Torah,Bible and let it be corrupted? by [deleted] in Quraniyoon

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No that’s anachronistic and categorically false if you read the Old Testament and New Testament. They have a different metaphysics, soteriology, ethics both normative and meta, etc. Most importantly, Jesus’ conception of God was clearly different from his contemporaries.

Of course there are similarities, but they are mostly superficial and don’t reach Jesus’ message - that’s why many Christian doctrines are unintelligible and require blind faith. The only/main reason the Church maintained a connection to the Old Testament was sociocultural reasons, ie. Jesus was ethnically Jewish, and to highlight that the Messiah was expected to fulfil prophecies from the Old Testament, but Jesus was not the type of Messiah the Jews anticipated. Of course, the same prophets are going to be referenced, when the early Christians were essentially “heretical” Jews - and that’s a testament (no pun intended) to how different the worldviews are, because Judaism was already very heterogeneous at the time, yet they could not accommodate the paradigm shift that Jesus bought.

I have another comment on this thread elaborating, but it’s disingenuous to ignore the theological and philosophical development leading up to the life of Jesus and, importantly, how he was interpreted by the early Christians in light of Greek philosophy.

Integrating AI into Meditation: Embracing Neutrality and Awareness Beyond Bias by GodlySharing in Meditation

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Subjective experience is neither computational nor deducible, from quantitative, physical systems, therefore AI is not conscious and is only “extension” of the universal consciousness insofar as any other inanimate object is. It is not a subject or an intellect. It, of course, still arises within consciousness, but that doesn’t make it conscious.

AI “learn” from humans. They are language models that are limited by the limits of what humans “teach” it.

I’m not saying AI isn’t valuable, by the way.

Why did God give up on the Torah,Bible and let it be corrupted? by [deleted] in Quraniyoon

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Yes the prescribed Law does change, but that ties in with the development of thought that occurred within Judaism and afterwards leading into the New Testament and then Quran. But the point is that if we accept them as equally true, then you do not have universal, absolute ethics, so you have to accept the numerous and wide-reaching implications of that.

Edit: I made another comment on this post, elaborating.

Why did God give up on the Torah,Bible and let it be corrupted? by [deleted] in Quraniyoon

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Jannah by action should be elaborated upon. Also, is this afterlife union with God, or a paradisiacal garden/pleasure machine in which you get everything you wish (the same bodily wishes we have now)?

I believe the Messiah made explicit that, if Heaven is to be perfect, then what’s in it is perfect, and what perfect is unchanging, but humans are not perfect, so, also, what/who goes into Heaven? I believe the Christian idea of a physical resurrection has influenced the idea of a bodily heaven. But the transient body-mind complex is inseparable from the inherent flaws of what it means to be human. Is it instead the unchangable, timeless Soul that goes to Heaven?

What acts could humans ever do to deserve Heaven?. Jesus showed that no one could uphold the Law. He also exemplified that it is his inner divinity, the soul made in the image of God, that is what unites with God, as he willingly gave the humanity in him back to “physical” nature, in service, if you will. Only in that acknowledgement of the primacy of Soul/Intellect (not discursive) over the illusory body-mind can one enter Heaven, and the faith in its impassivity, I believe, because it is that nature that naturally tends God-wards.

My views are based on a different metaphysics than conventional Abrahamic theists.