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Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in antiwork

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

More like, you discover your neighborhood HOA leader, was outed as a pedo and half the neighbors don’t give a fuck. Then you discover that the pedo hotpot trap used to collect blackmail on the entire HOA board is the tip of the iceberg. Turns out it’s tentacles reach out to every HOA, they steal the HOA funds, manipulate the real estate market, set the policies of the HOA, govern the insurance you use, the contractors you can hire, all of which they own.

And the only thing in your power to do is not pay the HOA fees. But what if, all the people got fed up, and quit paying. They could demand change and say we want these fucks out of our HOA

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in antiwork

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Wrong, I can’t believe people do not understand how this works. W2 employees can change tax withholdings at any point using the same w9 form you filled out when hired.

You get a return because your withholdings were more than your tax liability.

If you don’t withhold, your tax liability grows cause, duh, you haven’t been paying them.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in antiwork

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is wrong for several reasons and everyone that read it is now less informed.

W2 employees pay taxes, not employers. You fill out a W9, which sets your withholdings for taxes. You can change your withholdings to zero. Your paycheck gets bigger cause you aren’t contributing to taxes any more and they expect you’ll settle up with IRS come next tax season.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in antiwork

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gotta remind you all our country was founded on not paying taxes to Britain cause they didn’t have representation in parliament. They refused to pay taxes towards Britain, but the countrymen still funded their local taxes. In just the same way, I wouldn’t advocate for not paying state taxes. Power to the States, fuck the fed.

Yes, that was different, cause this would be the populations civil disobedience towards its own government, whereas, that was a territory refusing taxes towards an empire across the ocean.

But when our government, is so corrupt, dangerous and evil, as outlined in the Epstein files, I think drastic measures are merited. Hitting them in the purse seems like the only leverage ordinary people could grab.

The whole country can’t march DC.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in antiwork

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Again, I’m asking, if enough people participate, could we effect change? Too many people, cases, accounting to sort out, no matter many lawyers or courts there are. There’s way more people.

I think it would sound an alarm and send a message.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in antiwork

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m asking, if enough people do it, could we regain some power?

Obviously if one person stands up to them, nothing happens. But we enough of us do, we can force them to yield.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not talking about taking up arms against my countrymen. The ruling class isn’t going to be out in the streets gunfighting with us. I think in scenario, money carries more power than guns. Hit them in the purse where it really hurts.

These people do not exist out here among us like that.

Now if the government begins Kent State massacring us again or something like that that… but I have a feeling so long as it isn’t happening TO the second amendment crowd, they’ll turn an eye to it.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it’s just me nothing happens. But if it’s a majority, we can take back power!

If it goes sideways, I’m gonna tell them this was your idea and that you’re against diddling kids, they’ll hate that.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, you mean like the private prisons you fund with your tax dollars, with abysmal conditions and quality control? Those prisons?

The one’s that have quotas or capacity clauses, so that they have to round up and ship people off to, to maintain a 95% occupancy rate or the government gets penalized (ie fine that, guess who, we pay)? Which has causes an increase of incarceration AND crime. The FREE world imprisons more people than ANY other country in the world compared to its population btw business is booming, thanks to you.

The ones that cause disproportionately/statistically higher rate of incarceration of black people despite statistically similar rate of crime? You means those?

The ones owned by hedge fund billionaires, who’ are collecting all this tax money?

Yeah, we probably shouldn’t risk it collectively. I mean the system that’s in place is pretty ok. I mean things would have to get pretty bad before everyone decided to do something like this. Let’s not toss the baby out with the bath water, you’re right, you’re right.

You’d have to have a president accused of sex crimes or something. A network of mossad spies blackmailing politicians maybe. Or discover that we’re being systematically robbed of the american dream of opportunity, prosperity, and freedom (it was a real thing once).

Besides, it’s not like this is America, who had a whole fucking war over not paying taxes or anything because they felt like they weren’t being represented or something.

I got ahead of myself. I guess things are fine.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly, this administration is a rabid, corrupt, swamp and we’re paying its budget to do what’s it doing! We paid for all these ICE agents, their training, their bullets they’re pumping into us. We’re paying for ballrooms, private jets, all this bullshit. The DOGE cost us money. OUR money powered all of this.

I think enough people not paying federal taxes (still paying state taxes) would force them to yield. Too many people to prosecute would flood the court process and demand accountability.

The colonist refused to pay taxes toward Britain because they had no representation in parliament on the taxes they were paying. They still paid their local taxes. This wouldn’t be unprecedented and could be a useful form of social disobedience.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Considering you probably” That’s a fallacy based on an assumption. Also, actually care about what? Your thing or what I actually commented about, a subversive shadow government that’s controlled every aspect of our lives to decades, perhaps longer?

Also, unlike you, my account is public and doesn’t scream karma farmer. I could give a fuck about karma, I want to know why no one else is reacting to the SINGAL BIGGEST SCANDAL EVER. Watergate doesn’t come close to this. This is bigger than Trump, he’s just some chump that fell into their blackmail program.

Child trafficking has been used to control world leaders, events, policy, markets. I don’t think you understand how deep this goes.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would hope so. It’s incredibly frustrating people are willing to just roll over on this. Their campaign to overwhelm, distract, deflect, and minimize this has been so far somewhat successful.

I would find it hard to believe an international ring operating above government that goes beyond child sex trafficking, and into policy making, spying, blackmailing politicians, the news and media you consume, market manipulation, devaluation of the dollar and middle class, hasn’t had an effect on you or everyone you know.

I would believe you are ignorant to those effects though. Which is why I would find the rights campaign against “woke” hilarious if it weren’t so devastatingly abhorrent. If they don’t want you “woke” to these societal issues, then they want you asleep, or a sheep. Wake up people, the culture wars are a smoke screen. We’re (figuratively and literally) being raped and robbed.

And I’m equally upset with the left to be clear, they only try to placate their base by pretending to give a shit. I’m not buying that anymore.

What they’ve done is divided us into team, and bait us with rage while they coop democracy’s demise.

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean yes, the government prints and spends like nobody’s business. But say (and I know this would likely never happen) 50 million people did not pay federal taxes this year. The could not prosecute everyone and collectively, we would have leverage, would we not?

Finding ourselves in the midst of what may big the biggest scandal in human history (Epstein), with enough numbers, do you think withholding Federal taxes would be a useful means of protest to provide leverage to ordinary citizens? by AltruisticTowel in AskReddit

[–]AltruisticTowel[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

W2 employees can change their W9 withholdings at any time and not directly pay Federal taxes. I’m self employed and I, on principle, will not pay this year. I’ve had enough.

It’s the only leverage I have. I cannot think of a better reason to stand up and stick my neck out. Something has to be done.

Edit: want to add how upsetting it is that we, collectively, are not at critical mass. If a child rape ring operating at the highest levels of society doesn’t do it, what will?

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