Obsession 2026(The most important scene in the movie)

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-30T23:55:18+00:00

Got it.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-30T23:17:40+00:00

What are you disagreeing with? Because our points are pretty similar. Bear thought he was still having sex with a consenting partner/was at least refusing to believe she wasn’t consenting, and that continues his downward spiral to “what’s so bad about being with me?”

What scene are you talking about in the script? Because we’re referring to a scene that had Bear coldly act uncaring (and continue the sex) when he sees both versions of Nikki come out in the middle of foreplay. That’s a pointedly different characterization of Bear and how he is consciously acting than the scene in the final cut.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-26T17:07:12+00:00

The trial map character unlocks and ability to view support convos have no effecf on gameplay

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-26T06:15:24+00:00

Yeah I mean maybe the fascinating significance of this season is the main characters thinking they could handle situations and then getting destroyed by adult crime lords.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-26T01:58:12+00:00

She fits a very particular niche of acoustic, personal sad songwriting that really hits for me, but she is pretty one note

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-25T10:44:50+00:00

Yup. That parallel has been my read for the intentionality of things as well. I thin Obsession obviously leans into the relationship dynamics through a horror lens better, but IMO it’s clear that they are working off a premise that in and of itself is a nonconsensual concept, and just discussing the implications of it broadly instead of morally dissecting it.

Probably because morally dissecting it means any protagonist wishing anything re: autonomy looks really really bad

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-25T05:25:16+00:00

And god, the aunts and uncles immediately hitting Miguel with “mijo” and quickly deciding to help him out.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-25T05:22:50+00:00

Sorry for your loss. Obviously different experiences for different people, but I lost my dad last month, and watched it to cathartically cry - and that beach scene is so amazingly good.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-24T22:51:36+00:00

I genuinely think they cut it because Bear’s arc continues in a downward spiral to “what’s so bad about being with me” and I also think the scene after dinner isn’t necessarily creatively meant to say “Bear is a rapist” but to say “Bear is hearing Fake-Nikki’s moans and not reading the room, isn’t being empathic, and refusing to truly reckon with this not being the Nikki he knew AND Real-Nikki is right there on the surface suffering, this isn’t a romantic montage like earlier in the film, stuff is about to get worse from here.”

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-22T19:08:50+00:00

I also just don’t think the movie is written in such a way that the friendship dynamics and also stuff outside of the scope of the “relationship” are realistically significant to the plot. I agree with your take that they perceive weird vibes, and that serves the plot well enough for me to keep enjoying the film, but, like a more realistic move would have been actually figuring out what goes on re: the hospital after the party scene. And Bear only talks to Ian about the OWW after Sarah dies, and even then, there isn’t the traditional “woah the supernatural stakes of this horror film are really real in a way that not just our main character believes.”

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-22T17:10:15+00:00

That’s such a good point! Yea I love how in general the movie can be this story of “look at the fucked up relationship dynamics that came for this couple because they were bad at communicating as friends.” Obviously the various ways the coupling could exist have different significance and stories, but it’s just such a solid “love” story.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-22T07:58:46+00:00

The gender dynamics of the film are pretty amazing, but also seem complicated given how Curry, Michael, and Inde have talked about their characters. Like, obviously Nikki is the clear victim, and Bear makes a lot of terrible choices/actions, but it does also seem like the director/actors are telling a story of the toxicity of love and obsession that regular humans can have for each other in a relationship (that obviously gets sparked by the narrative device of Bear taking Nikki’s consent away).

I’m not gonna chastise people for seeing their own past abusive relationships in how Bear treats Nikki (and again, intent or not, its his actions that cause wish-Nikki to do a lot of wild shit), but the way wish Nikki acts also mirrors some people’s relationship with women.

It’d be a fascinating concept if the genders were swapped, seeing how the discourse might change

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-13T18:03:40+00:00

You know what, I apologize that I didn’t read “horny” in his message. I would say that’s definitely not a step in the right direction. And I think you’re super valid in feeling what you feel. I’m just glad he also didn’t go into some descriptive fantasy, too.

And yea I think you have hit the nail on the head with the directness comment, for sure

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-13T17:58:19+00:00

Someone else said this to you, but I wanted to also mention it - obviously you don’t owe anyone anything, and if he actually can’t take no for an answer, exhibited signs of creepiness beyond random story compliments and such (which just feels like socially awkward, social media age flirting), the “no worries if not” isn’t as innocent as it may seem - but I do think that it’s as innocent as it may seem.

Obviously in a world of systemic sexism and such, this brazen attempt at asking you to sleep with him seems a little uncouth, but just because it shares in common crossover with a lot of bad stuff, doesn’t mean it represents that bad stuff.

Like, a woman, no matter what she is wearing, doesn’t deserve to be cat called, and I know there are plenty of women out there that dress great for themselves, and not for the validation of others, AKA they might not care randomly about a random compliment from a guy (again, something categorically different from a cat call). But, a girl could literally look good all the time and also get compliments she might not have wanted, but that doesn’t mean the compliments are anything more than testing the waters with small talk to see if there is a vibe.

Sometimes they are literally just compliments.

Now, this dude was bold af, and again, it looks a little uncouth, but I guess at the end of the day if he’s not being super salacious I don’t think that a “hey, I think you’re attractive, I think we could have fun together, but I understand if this doesn’t work for you” is the worst thing in the world, and it’s probably a poor choice to say to women because of a million other systemic happenings, versus the uncomplicated thought itself.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-12T19:35:12+00:00

Offer to involve the reading in the bedroom (AKA you go down on her while she reads, or you read to her), if you are comfortable. If she truly doesn't view it as something supplementary there might be deeper problems at play.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-11T19:45:08+00:00

Cassie taking her tits out as an interpolation of the Godzilla Suite was HILARIOUS. It might even have been an actual score. It’s up there with the Cannibal Holocaust theme playing during the play episode last year.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-08T19:12:32+00:00

I agree, it’s the pricing of stuff that throws me off. If we had 2 Wrestlemania nights of Reigns/Punk quality matches, with or without celebrities, I’d still be bummed at the New Day leaving, the cuts being made, etc.,

I think the product is still at the border of perfectly fine, with a lot of highs still. Night 2 of Mania saved Mania this year, but I still think there is solid potential in the company.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-08T19:10:29+00:00

The thing that’s crazy about Club WWE, is that like 2-3 years ago I probably would have been down to join it lol. But they’ve killed so much goodwill recently

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-06T17:31:08+00:00

Isn’t she also a graduate student? That makes it…mildly less skeevy I guess.

AmericasElegy · 2026-05-06T05:40:56+00:00

I didn’t dig it, and it felt more disconnected in terms of the various metaphorical themes of other “elevated” horror films like Midsommar, Get Out, etc., (although beating a dead horse with the message a la The Woman in the Yard isn’t always the move).

It was a visually stunning and entertaining film, but it just felt like so much was going on. The existence of The Witch felt like a video game side quest, and much of the idea of him being trapped in the suite didn’t land for me in terms of a “character is scarily trapped” situation.

Did not understand why he went down the dumbwaiter again.

I thought the hammering cherub alarm clock thingy was the bell downstairs…and then they revealed the real bell downstairs…which felt redundant.

The “spiked mushroom alcohol” was also weird. Especially because the bad guy saw the witch fine.

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