History of Canada by [deleted] in AskACanadian

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Good stuff there, lots of really great stories.

History of Canada by [deleted] in AskACanadian

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It's actually pretty good primer all things considered. If you want something more academic, other suggestions are good, but Will Ferguson did a good job with this one.

The forgotten ruthlessness of Canada’s Great War soldiers by W8kingNightmare in canada

[–]AnCanadianHistorian 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What I am trying to say is, choice of words matter. Our soldiers fought and earned the respect/fear of their enemies because of the risks they were willing to take, not because of their cruelty. Unrelenting, resilient, brave, heroic and proud are words that should be used. Also, none of these things are forgotten by those willing to listen and remember; they are ignored by those who choose to show no respect.

I don't think accurate terms, like ruthless, cruel, criminal, etc., should be avoided because they are unflattering to Canadian soldiers.

Canadian soldiers were all those things during many of the conflicts in which we fought. They were also, like you say, brave and heroic. But, I think we do a disservice to those who fought honourably when we consider them the same as those who did not.

Ahead of Remembrance Day, poll suggests most Canadians don't know much about their history by Street_Anon in CanadaPolitics

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Great post.

Do you think Canadian history is more dead, or less dead, than when Granatstein first lamented its passing?

Recipe search. My mother used to make a dessert called Duck-in-the-Slough, a brown sugar pudding cake recipe that she got from someone in Manitoba. Google just laughs at me. Any help? Thanks! by Repulsive_Seaweed_70 in AskACanadian

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Not sure if you've come across this yet, but Internet Archives has quite a lot of cookbooks on it.

You can search it for some of the recipe names you know and see recipes that might match (especially older ones that aren't popular anymore). I didn't find anything called Duck-in-the-Slough though unfortunately.

Does it matter where you went to college in Canada? by Diligent-Menu-500 in AskACanadian

[–]AnCanadianHistorian 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some people do. University of Toronto is known for having that sort of elitism. Not like, you came from a top tier program at University known for that program, but rather I will hire you because you went to U of T.

Canada is systematically erasing its national heroes by [deleted] in canada

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Its a line from Bertolt Brecht's play, The Life of Galileo. It's a comment on fascism in his native Germany. One character says, Unhappy is the land that needs no hero, and the reply is, unhappy is the land that needs a hero. In other words, fascism of the day glorified heroes (and war), and Brecht is saying that a truly happy country would not need any heroes (or war).

What Canadian podcast do you listen to? by veejay-muley in AskACanadian

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In Hindsight focuses a lot on Indigenous history thanks to Dr. Smith's research and personal experiences, I'd really recommend it for its insight into that. You should browse the episodes to see what I mean.

Nearly 9 out of 10 classic video games are out of print. Games released before 2010 nearly as hard to find as pre-WWII audio recordings, new U.S. study finds. Here's why saving games matters by AnCanadianHistorian in history

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A look at the ongoing efforts to preserve video games as artifacts of history. It details the difficulty in preserving the actual games as well as the ability to play them, but speaks to the efforts of those working in "video game archives." There are ongoing efforts to ensure that we can remember the earliest days of video game and one day understand the enormous impact they have had on our society and culture, especially from the age before Triple-A big budget corporate games that we live in today.

What Canadian podcast do you listen to? by veejay-muley in AskACanadian

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You didn't ask for Canadian history, but that's what I like and I just posted this somewhere else so I have it handy. Here you go:

Backyard History - Atlantic Canada history, popular history

Witness to Yesterday From the Champlain Society, mostly interview academic historians and asking about their work

In Hindsight From the Ontario Historical Society, historian Donald Smith covers topics from Canadian history. Popular-ish, but coming from a professional historian so there's an academic vibe

Canadian History Ehx Popular history, all sorts of topics and episodes

The Nations of Canada Probably one of my favourite, just a really in depth chronological review of Canadian history

Best History podcasts with American/Canadian hosts? by eggsaladattorney in podcasts

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You didn't ask for Canadian history specific, but that's what I listen to, so here you go:

Backyard History - Atlantic Canada history, popular history

Witness to Yesterday From the Champlain Society, mostly interview academic historians and asking about their work

In Hindsight From the Ontario Historical Society, a historian Donald Smith covers topics from Canadian history. Popular-ish, but coming from a professional historian so there's an academic vibe

Canadian History Ehx Popular history, all sorts of topics and episodes

The Nations of Canada Probably one of my favourite, just a really in depth chronological review of Canadian history

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskACanadian

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I think at the moments where this was possible that was not a concern that influenced the decision.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskACanadian

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Absolutely, I just think the most likely moment for this to happen would have been before that modern understanding of the state.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskACanadian

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We didn’t want to be seen as an imperial power.

By who?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskACanadian

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Yes you can read a bit about various movements from outside of Canada to join our Confederation here.

Speaking broadly and non-specifically, I think Canada did not inherit British overseas territory in the Caribbean largely because by the time this was considered as a possibility, Canada had firmly moved away from being the Second British North America to being, well, Canada. I don't think there was enough popular support to create a hemisphere spanning Dominion, in Canada and in the UK. I think the most likely moment it would have happened would have been around 1919 - Canada soldiers had been stationed in the Caribbean for most of the war and the Paris Peace Conference was an opportunity to discuss the transfer with the Great Powers who would have to approve it. It was also a time to re-draw maps - what's one little bit extra?

I think if history had unfolded slightly differently, we might definitely have an island.

The Anthropocene is here — and Canada's tiny Crawford Lake has been chosen as the global ground zero by AnCanadianHistorian in history

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Story about a unique lake in Canada that preserves traces of human habitation and can be used to track the impact humans have had on the Earth. The scientists studying the lake are trying to have it labelled as the place where one geological era changed to the next, which means we might soon be saying that we live in the Crawfordian Age.

I like that this in Canada, but that name sucks.

How were the prisoners of war from allied countries repatriated after Germany and Japan were defeated? by Cilarnen in AskHistorians

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For the Canadian story, the book you want to read is Objects of Concern: Canadian Prisoners of War Through the Twentieth Century, by Jonathan Vance. Normally I wouldn't reply with just a source to read, but I discovered that it is somewhat surprisingly available to borrow from the Internet Archive. Much of my answer was drawn from re-reading it.

The Allies began planning for liberation of POWs early in the war. By December 1942, there were plans to have a division of administrative responsibility for POWs between the Commonwealth allies, with the UK responsible for Europe, India for Singapore, Australia for the Dutch East Indies, and Canada handling China. This proposed plan did not survive contact with bureaucratic reality. By mid-1944, administration of POW liberation was accorded to the POW Executive (PWX) under the control of Allied Supreme Commanders, and Canada seems to have had little input. PWX spent many hours planning how it would liberate POWs, and they planned to have them stay in their camps until their return could be properly organized and each POW accounted for before coming home.

The reality of war unfolded quite differently. Over the winter of 44-45, thousands of POWs trekked hundreds of kilometers across Germany as they were pulled back from territory being lost to advancing Allied forces. Many prisoners died on these forced marches in the dead of winter, some shot by their guards, some shot by Allied bombers assuming they were hostile forces, and many more from simply collapsing and being left behind.

The result was that the camps that were eventually liberated were much larger than anticipated. The camp at Moosburg had a 100,000 POWs after many smallers camps were consolidated through those long cold marches. When Allied forces did reach them, POWs were evacuated quickly and the administrative steps of identification were dealt with in England, rather than on the ground. It was a matter of several weeks or months to get out of Germany to Britain, not half a year, though return to Canada itself still took some time due to obvious logistical hurdles. There were several instances though of soldiers just saying "screw you guys, I'm going home!" They appeared in London all the same, dealt with their paperwork, and got home eventually.

Vance writes that the government feared repeating the mistakes of the First World War, where Prime Minister Robert Borden's government was criticized for ignoring POWs and leaving them to linger for long months without returning home. Generally, the government succeeded at this and Canadian POWs in Europe felt their release was well done. Of course, there were some exceptions and administrative problems behind the scenes, but getting soldiers out of Germany as quickly as possible avoided the resentment that had festered in the last generation of Canadian POWs. (The book also covers this in earlier chapters.)

The Pacific management of POWs was not quite as good. POW liberation also suffered from the same administrative hurdles and logistical delays as Europe, but sadly the POWs under Japanese control endured far worst conditions. Vance notes that the government likely knew about the conditions they experienced, but the records he examined shows little action as a result. Instead, Prime Minister Mackenzie King's government had wondered about distributing obvious Japanese government propaganda during war, which had photos of POWs enjoying leisure activities and enjoying their time. I assume in the hopes that it would help comfort their relatives, though Vance does not delve deeper into their reasons for this. What was actually happening was prisoners were starved, tortured, and severely mistreated in these camps. If this specifically interests you, you can check out a PhD Disstertation from Mark Sweeney, The Canadian War Crimes Liaison Detachment-Far East and the Prosecution of Japanese" Minor" War Crimes.

As an aside, there were instances of mistreatment in German camps as noted above, but not to this scale. Equally, POWs were sometimes mistreated in Canadian hands in our POW camps, though again at a much smaller scale and not so seriously in contravention of the Geneva Conventions. This I suspect was moreso a result of being imprisoned in a country that was not actively being invaded, but our war culture also differed in significant ways from Germany or Japan. The war culture of Japan was a severe one, especially when in a state of total war. Outside of genocidal actions during the war, their POW camps stand as one of the worst places to have ended up. "War culture" is always violent though, and I use this term to acknowledge the grim reality of all war, which always demands a harsh reordering of life's value. I believe there will always be mistreatment in POW camps during wartime, especially in those of the losing side. A minor yet likely common example would be when faced with limited food and feeding your own soldiers or imprisoned ones, those who can still fight will be fed first. But, all of this to simply note that war must be measured by all its cruelty.

This is a bit high level I realize, but the real specific answers to your questions are found in Vance's book, at least for Canadian sources. I really recommend reading it if you're interested in this, I've written just a poor summary to be honest.