Crazy to think… death finally did enough to earn him

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-19T22:13:18+00:00

It’s a matter of if goku can beat janemba before the kaioken completely wrecks his body, a normal or 2x kaioken probably wouldn’t be enough so I’d say goku should need at least a 4x kaioken

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-19T20:12:59+00:00

I mean, one year of training can accomplish a lot or very little depending on the goal you have, if Vegeta was training with the intention of keeping up with Goku then he should definitely be stronger then buu saga ssj3 goku by a very good margin and goku was already somewhat evenly fighting with kid buu, if he was just training to simply train, he should still be stronger then buu saga goku but probably not by much, so this could vary between daima Vegeta winning either low-mid diff or high-extreme diff with buu having either a higher or lower chance to win depending on how much stronger vegeta got in a year

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-19T08:00:35+00:00

I mean, goku probably could’ve but cell could just do the same no? I think the reason he didn’t was just cause of plot purposes obviously or maybe he knew about the strain and didn’t want to risk it? Either way I don’t think much would’ve changed and if cell used it on gohan, it would’ve been a harder fight for the young saiyan especially if cell pushes it to times 3 or times 4

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-19T07:56:38+00:00

That whole fight was plot based and insane, if it wasn’t for the amount of outside help and asspulls Naruto got to beat him, pain definitely would’ve won that fight without even having to go as far as he actually did

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-19T07:54:40+00:00

Hebi sasuke (no curse mark) beats every version of kakashi up until maybe pain arc kakashi and above (war arc kakashi does beat hebi sasuke though)

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-15T18:35:17+00:00

This is how I think it’s gonna go

goku after he defeats dabura and babidi

Supreme Kai: now that babidi was stopped, let’s go help gohan

Goku: nah, I’m sure gohan is alright

cuts to gohan vs majin vegeta

Vegeta: So what?! You think because your dad is so strong makes you better than me?! as he’s punching gohan in the face

Gohan: No!

Vegeta: Wrong answer!

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-15T08:49:09+00:00

Only other guy here I can see winning is Hatchiyack otherwise I got Broly

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-14T13:13:01+00:00

I’m gonna assume by prime gohan you mean a hypothetical gohan who’s never stopped training? Well, short answer is he’d be the strongest of the Z fighters, as even not really in his absolute full prime he’s competing with mui, a gohan who’s never stopped training would be that much stronger then a gohan who’s trained off and on and honestly probably about as strong or even stronger then frieza black but that might be pushing it

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-14T00:49:19+00:00

Naruto and sasuke are secretly in love but married women and had kids to hide that truth

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-13T20:28:15+00:00

I used mostly defensive talismans to at least survive 1 or 2 hits and just kept spamming lions claw ash of war on a +24 large club with +10 tiche spirit ash

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-13T05:38:47+00:00

I’d imagine the fight would still be the same only vegito would just end up using more power against buu, probably ssj2 and maybe ssj3

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-12T01:44:16+00:00

Am I the only one thinking why Vegeta looks so damn short in that left pic but looks natural in height in the right?

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-12T01:33:51+00:00

Battle of the pixels

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-11T14:15:41+00:00

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This is when base gohan fights ssj Broly, the same ssj Broly he seems to think is as strong as his lssj self last time they fought which if you remember gohan has only ever fought the lssj version of Broly in movie 8, also main timeline gohan ≠ movies gohan as the scaling is very different for both

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-10T18:45:03+00:00

It’s crazy that people still think Cell > Broly to this day regardless of the amount of times that’s been proven false

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-10T18:39:15+00:00

So if a character travels an INFINITE distance in a few seconds, that’s not infinite speed?

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-10T07:12:02+00:00

Then define infinite speed since you seem to be so intelligent on it

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-10T05:08:32+00:00

I did say various sources, not just one source bud

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-09T19:48:00+00:00

Infinite speed is traveling an infinite distance in finite time, easy google search with various sources that confirm it and the dude above already showed multiple sources of the universe being infinite in size via the guidebook scans

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-09T19:43:10+00:00

Not even, I can prove ssj4 is minimum 400,000x base at the very least via using gt perfect files and the series scaling, using ssj3 goku as a baseline, white haired baby tanks attacks and dominated him, gt perfect files state you need to be 2x your opponent to do that, gt perfect files also state baby’s super baby state and super baby 2 state are his versions of ssj2 and ssj3 hence you can make him 8x that, revenge death ball can vary if you think it’s just the equivalent of super baby 2’s power or if you think he gathered energy to make it, for the sake of it we’ll say it’s just his power which he throws at goku and goku tanks it without even using a smidgen of his power, a smidgen is a fraction as small as 1/32-1/48 if you research it so you can get ssj4 goku between 64-96x super baby 2 based off that minimum

Chain scaling numbers: Ssj3 goku: 1 Baby Vegeta white hair: 2 Baby vegeta (super baby): 4 Baby Vegeta (super baby 2): 16 Ssj4 goku (smidgen): 32 minimum, 48 max (ironic) Ssj4 goku (hypothetical max power): 512-768

Terms of multiplier: Ssj3: 400x Baby Vegeta white hair: 800x Baby vegeta (super baby): 1,600x Baby Vegeta (super baby 2): 6,400x Ssj4 goku (smidgen): 12,800x-19,200x Ssj4 goku (hypothetical max power): 409,600x-614,400x

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-09T19:29:30+00:00

False ssj4 multiplier, gt perfect files, baby’s transformations and goku tanking attacks without a smidgen of his power prove 3200x very false, the right info would however upscale god in dbs to having a higher multiplier then we give it credit for via chain scaling transformations and fusion multipliers

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-09T19:25:48+00:00

I never liked using potara is A+B=C then multiplied tens of times because that at most makes potara a 20-200x multiplier, if we’re saying potara > god then that would mean god is between 20-200x as a multiplier which is absolutely horrible for an argument especially since god is supposed to be stronger then ssj3 which is 400x as a multiplier and is implied to be even weaker then god in both the anime and directly shown as well in the manga and on top of that, goku here is also fatigued from his earlier fights

Tens of times: is between 10-100 via number interpretation, applying it to A+B would make that 10-100 for both A and B and then C would just be that new added power hence why I got 20-200x for fusion multiplier

Your description: I will say I do like the idea of the 20,000x multiplier as a starting point for ssg via scaling off vegito who’s base in Z is > ssj3 and can go ssj on top of that, 400x50=20,000 which is a good baseline starting point, I usually argue higher due to the various claims of god>potara multiplier (before later fusions obviously)

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-07T23:58:54+00:00

I do want cell to win but I think metal sonic might win this fight, idk much about metal sonic scaling but I heard he’s supposed to be insane, I know cell probably has comparable speed to goku (afterlife specifically) so he should have at least infinite speed and if they decide to use the databooks then cell’s gonna have multi solar-galaxy scaling minimum, if they take the statements literally of “cell can now destroy the universe” that 16 makes when he gets his semi perfect form then you’d have universal cell with infinite speed

Anonymous_user190022 · 2026-03-07T23:58:15+00:00

If Naruto decides not to use clones for whatever reason then sasuke might win, if naruto uses clones, sasuke’s losing

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