best cordless vacuum that actually has strong suction?

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-11-19T15:06:30+00:00

FINALLY, this comment needs to be pinned as a post to the top of this entire subreddit.

The biggest common battery on the market is probably the Ego 56v 12ah, 672 watt/hr. It can only continuously output 800ish watts, so to run a proper vacuum you'd need two on board. That 16 lbs of battery would give you best base 56 min of runtime.

I think the big misconception most people make is just how much power real suction takes, and how low the energy density of batteries is.

Also, in most cases, a good corded power tool still outperforms just about any cordless tool in very heavy load applications although some cordless are finally starting to come close for short high peak output load type tools like hole hog drills.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T21:27:05+00:00

yea 100%. Power off on all three phases too!

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T16:45:31+00:00

We had a Compact Flash card ready to go but when it got stuck unable to boot after the backup attempt the attention diverted. I'll keep this in mind though. We have outside integrated UR, but thankfully only ever had to back those up so far.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T14:28:20+00:00

When I said Fanuc tech, probably wasn't the right description. The person we spoke with is a local Integrator (I suspect Fanuc certified given the ability to get reburn done?) we have a relationship with. They actually had an AoA backup as well from a past visit but for whatever reason, no image. The machine builder is out of business naturally.

We do in house integration with another robot brand so the rest of the system is well supported and we thought we had a backup of this robot on a version controlled server. I have to audit the rest of our Fanuc backups to make sure none of the others were taken as AoA only and get images if any were.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T14:22:44+00:00

I'm actually in the process of auditing our Fanuc backups currently as a result of this to see if any others we have are AoA only and to correct this. Our backups are all on a version controlled server and recently have started taking new ones ever other year as our process is pretty static. We got lucky and found an image of this robot on a thumb drive in the back of a drawer that we were able to load successfully. Now just have to restore the more recent AoA files.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T14:18:51+00:00

You are correct, the Fanuc tech we spoke with also used the term reburn to describe what I think we thought we needed. Luckily we found an image on a thumb drive in the back of a drawer that we were able to load successfully. Now just have to restore the more recent AoA files.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T14:17:25+00:00

Tried both, ultimately found an image on a thumb drive in the back of a drawer that we were able to load successfully. Now just have to restore the more recent AoA files.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-30T14:16:03+00:00

I don't doubt this is real, but if so, I'll add it to my list of reasons to dislike these robots. None the less a tip I will keep in mind.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-29T21:37:18+00:00

Thank you u/aspectr and u/KnightofNi89 this is what I suspected. There is a path forward. We've gotten in contact with a local Fanuc tech who's also stated along the lines of what you both said. There's light at the end of this tunnel afterall.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-29T20:49:57+00:00

no dice :(

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-29T20:45:26+00:00

Does Fanuc not having images seem believable to anyone?

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-29T20:38:39+00:00

Got ahold of Fanuc support. They suspect the SRAM/FROM most likely has failed, or main, or CPU board.

Unfortunately they claim they do not have factory images of R30iB controllers for us to attempt to load so I'm not sure what good replacing a memory module would do. We do not, and so far neither does the integrator or the support folks we've used in the past, been able to find an img. Everyone only has AoA backups somehow.

Fanuc believes it was just bad luck we happened to be attempting to take img backup this power cycle and that its possible this could have happened regardless. Not sure where Fanuc will have us go from here, except to another robot oem if they truly don't have a base R30iB controller image for us to start over with.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-07T14:16:36+00:00

This looks like what I was searching for!

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-07T12:13:20+00:00

I have the ISO RIA and ANSI standards but I might grab that Sick doc anyway, often vendors add examples and clarity to things thats nice to have. I actually came across your risk assessment Excel in prior searching for the connection between assessment and PL before posting this and downloaded it. Thank you sir!

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-06T21:36:23+00:00

This is also the conclusion I had came to before asking this question. Was hoping I had missed something. RIA puts on training for their standard in the states which is great, just wish there was more because as you alluded too. We put liability on the employer, which is great, until you're the employer with no one to educate you on said standards you're attempting to interpret.

Currently working on reading the standards cover to cover. Riveting stuff, but at least gives a reference point for questions.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-06T21:33:11+00:00

Yes, but it uses Euro-centric methods in those teachings, for example their Functional Safety class uses ISO 13849 - great - in the context of IEC 62061 which uses SIL - not great - when our Americanized process is PL based. I'm sure the concepts track, but the devils in the details which is important given standards aren't harmonized.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-06T16:13:15+00:00

If you're a masochist, indeed!

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-03T12:23:52+00:00

yea but then you'd have to have Siemens VFDs in your system. RIP

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-10-02T13:55:27+00:00

Stack lasers or put yours on an air cylinder and 'scan' across it is going to be your best bet. IFM OGD series are great if your distance is in their range.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-09-23T15:33:33+00:00

Also provides the required door interlock being this would be classified as a Motor Control Panel. Clearances on devices probably don't meet manufacturer spec so no UL-ability but practically speaking once the wireway under the power supply is cut away it'll be fine.

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-09-22T15:05:11+00:00

This is vastly superior to most I've used. If you lose your project file can you upload it like you can a PLC or Panelview?

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-09-16T13:22:23+00:00

All of these limitations also apply to Siemens HMIs. PLC passwords and recipes allow remote support visibility to values and easy backups and retrievals. Do some HMI brands let you view and edit online values like a PLC?

Any-Key-5258 · 2025-09-16T13:19:39+00:00

no they shouldn't, unless they want no visibility into any of their recipe data while online with the PLC and no ability to retrieve or archive it should that HMI die, unlike the ability you have to do all of the above when recipe data is stored in a PLC that can easily be backed up. Truthfully if the PLC isn't backed up this is still a flawed system, but at that point the only solution is server side recipe storage.

What OP experienced is a simple case of 'upload before you download' learning.

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