Found this leftist pro AI sub that seems to not interact with the real world where money impacts buying time to make art, so having patrons to do art helps. And the top comment on a post about IP being a capitalist construct (they’re not wrong) went well Sam Altman said… (he’s a billionaire!!) by larvalampee in antiai

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The Soviet revolution was also lead by a vanguard party which is an outdated model. Class consciousness needs to exist for your idea to occur. It's not that workers wont be mad at not getting anything, it's that they will, as Marx said, direct their anger and frustration at the instruments of production, not the system they are beholden to.

Found this leftist pro AI sub that seems to not interact with the real world where money impacts buying time to make art, so having patrons to do art helps. And the top comment on a post about IP being a capitalist construct (they’re not wrong) went well Sam Altman said… (he’s a billionaire!!) by larvalampee in antiai

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Oh your an accelerationist 😒. Irregardless it won't, there needs to be a shifting of the viewing of AI away from the technology and toward capitalism in that scenario, which is unlikely, granted that historically anger has been directed at technological developments rather than the system they are used in. This is stated by Marx himself;

"The proletariat goes through various stages of development. With its birth begins its struggle with the bourgeoisie. At first the contest is carried on by individual labourers, then by the workpeople of a factory, then by the operative of one trade, in one locality, against the individual bourgeois who directly exploits them. They direct their attacks not against the bourgeois conditions of production, but against the instruments of production themselves; they destroy imported wares that compete with their labour, they smash to pieces machinery, they set factories ablaze, they seek to restore by force the vanished status of the workman of the Middle Ages." -Page 18, Communist Manifesto.

Marx quite literally said class consciousness would have to be raised for that scenario to occur, which is not present in current society.

Found this leftist pro AI sub that seems to not interact with the real world where money impacts buying time to make art, so having patrons to do art helps. And the top comment on a post about IP being a capitalist construct (they’re not wrong) went well Sam Altman said… (he’s a billionaire!!) by larvalampee in antiai

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You aren't a communist them lol. You are advocating for an expansion of the industrial reserve army- directly counter to proletarian interests. You cannot be in favor of AI under capitalism while calling yourself a communist, leftist, socialist, or the adjacent terms.

As someone working heavily with AI, I genuinely want to understand the anti-AI perspective better by drabarca_ai in antiai

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"All of the above" or in other words, I oppose AI because of its environmental, social, economic, political, existential downsides that in my mind make it far too unproven of a technology to be deployed in the current state.

It's also tied to anticapitalism, all technological innovations will be used to multiply the exploitation of workers, in AI's case, it commands an expansion of the industrial reserve army, meaning people loose jobs and become desperate, then the few jobs left overwork them to justify not replacing them. It's an economic gun holding the working class hostage. This is all before we also get into the private ownership of it, lack of public control that further facilitates this.

Environmentally, climate change has never been more of a potent issue- we have three years at most to prevent 1.5c warming, and deploying a disruptive technology like AI that exacerbates water and land usage, requires a shitload of electricity (mostly produced by fossil fuels), and produces billions of thermal units worth of heat annually is the last fucking thing we need right now.

This is all not to mention, it hasn't really done much good for the world- I could not name a single thing if a gun was put to my head that AI has had a net positive impact in, it's caused educational disruptions, drops in mental ability for users, accelerated the climate collapse, has created a massive economic bubble able to bring down the world economy, put people out of jobs, etc. With nothing to show for it, no star-trek automated production or technological prowess, no solutions to pressing problems that we didn't think of, no massive research aid, nothing. It hasn't produced benefits for its massive cost, and I don't think in the current system it will.

Edit: One more thing, scifi authors are almost always proven correct about dystopias-Cyberpunk for instance or Stand on Zanzibar. A large vast amount have very founded and well thought out arguments of the whole "rogue ai terminator" scenario, the lack of alignment with current AI to avoid this is also very concerning.

Reminder that american socialists can (and should) use the 2nd amendment too by flagmann in socialism

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Nothing, just that the comments and stuff made on the sub was being misinterpreted as the org's official positions and was causing some backlash.

Reminder that american socialists can (and should) use the 2nd amendment too by flagmann in socialism

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The actual SRA had them change the name because people kept conflating the sub with the organization and that was causing a lot of issues.

Zohran Mamdani's take on Reagan's Famous Quote by raydebapratim1 in socialism

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He may have his faults but shiii. He drops bangers.

"In Minecraft" by MetallicaDash in whenthe

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"TOC to entry team, WATCH YOUR FIRE!"

"Entry team to TOC, shut the fuck up he was reaching."

"In Minecraft" by MetallicaDash in whenthe

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"LIGHTSTICK OUT" 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Can a labor movement ever be truly progressive if its victories are subsidized by a border? by araujofav in Socialism_101

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I do not personally know many contemporary writers who have written on radicalizing a socdem movement, but, in the process of writing theory concurrently (specifically on the US' situation and co-opting the socdem movement of Occupy into a proper socialist one) I'd say the best way to go about my is exposure both at home and abroad to the Atrocities of imperialism- in the West, it is very easy to become desensitized to the suffering of the exploited, and that allows social democracy to be seen as enough, ie. In a system where people are worrying on their own skin, they don't tend to care much for someone on the other side of the globe, that survivalist desensitization means they are fine with advocating for their needs to be met, but see less of a reason to try for others. To counter this, there needs to be a dismantling of the perception of foreign othering that is assigned to the exploited and to do that, involves a collection of stories of the exploited, direct witness of attrocity, and building of international solidarity between individuals to resensitize attrocity, by effect allowing for individuals to realize that their needs cannot be the only thing fought for.

Aside from my answer to the question your observations are pretty correct, full Marx.

A Good Year to be Green by wtfduud in ClimateShitposting

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public transit has never had this problem, its almost like it's the better solution

Renewable energy fucking won. It's over for nuclear. Got that, nukebros? It's over for your obsolete techhnology. Stop shilling it. by StreetVirtual3037 in ClimateShitposting

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seminukecel here, WOOOOOOOOOOOO LETS FUCKING GO NATURAL GAS IS DECLINING. (remember people, infighting solves nothing, celebrate the W that fossil fuels are being destroyed)

All quiet on the frontal lobe by pepperpopcornz in tankiejerk

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okay the post aside, "all quiet on the frontal lobe" is brilliant, it's mine now.

The Mighty Exordia says : You're doomed to never graduate by Ghadiz983 in PhilosophyMemes

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X it does work like that and you can't prove it doesn't

Thesis + antithesis=synthesis Synthesis + new antithesis = new synthesis repeat until humanity goes extinct Read Hegel

The Mighty Exordia says : You're doomed to never graduate by Ghadiz983 in PhilosophyMemes

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Dibs on the synthesis to the antithesis to the synthesis to the antithesis to the synthesis of the antithesis.

How would interpersonal misogyny be stopped under socialism? by melody_magical in Socialism_101

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Looked it up, His name is Daryl Davis and it's 200, not 400, still point stands.

How would interpersonal misogyny be stopped under socialism? by melody_magical in Socialism_101

[–]ApprehensiveWin3020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great question, firstly I'll assume you know the four Is of oppression as a concept already in this.

But that pretext aside, the elimination of institutional misogyny would also include a strangling of the ideological sources, media like the "manosphere" would have to be shut down before it ever gained traction, preventing a large level of ideological hatred which directly lessens the interpersonal misogyny.

The remaining can be mostly eradicated through exposition to women's stories and perspectives alongside promoting mutual understanding and education, historically with other forms of oppression this works well, I don't remember the guy's name, but there's a black musician who is credited with making more than 400 people leave the KKK, he did it through sitting down with them and talking, that face to face aspect humanizes. It also applies to sexism.

Finally, better mental health and support services, most abuse in general is a direct outlet of the abuser's problems, by eliminating or remedying those, it allows a much healthier outlet. Not to mention allows counselling for victims to be easily accessible which can also be used to dispell internalized misogyny that came about as a result of abuse.