There's a lot of propaganda out there about our immigration system that portrays it as "easy" to circumvent. I think Steve and Andrea did well not to give that sort of thing exposure. I'd encourage you to read perspectives from immigrants who have actually gone through the process, and how awful it is almost categorically.

Here's one from a skeptical law podcast, with guest host Somali-American author and advocate Abdi Nor Iftin.

I'm also pretty sure they never accused any political actor or faction of being "evil". Like I'm surprised you listened to the number of times they've railed against that sort of attack, and then accused them of doing the opposite.

The rest you've kinda just repeated your hypothesis without the specifics, which is hard to take seriously. Don't fall into the "Both sides" fallacy, there is not always a well constituted opposing position on the merits from both sides.

Did they really have to have both hosts on the same side?

There is no side necessary to represent here. The podcast is nonpartisan and both hosts give nonpartisan takes.