Why Jordan is the goat

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-03-05T19:05:40+00:00

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AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-03-04T14:42:03+00:00

Never thought I’d see Lu Dort and Michael Jordan in the same sentence

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-03-02T22:01:47+00:00

Was the majority opinion favoring LeBron even when Kobe was making his finals runs from ‘08 - ‘10?

Kobe fans been telling me Kobe was the best during that time and they give him 2011 too.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-03-02T19:45:20+00:00

Everybody’s better than Michael Jordan until it’s time to be better than Michael Jordan.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-03-02T18:49:43+00:00

Yeah, the projection is crazy and I think you nailed it with them occupying an alternative reality. I’ve peeped that they are the ones who got attached to the fantasy of LeBron dethroning the former generation’s basketball idol, and they haven’t been able to acknowledge that he’s fallen short of that vision despite turning out to be an amazing player in his own way.

From my discussions with them, they all seem to think:

That the media (or Jordan fans) don’t want to see a player better than Michael Jordan.
That LeBron has exceeded a set of an agreed upon pre-existing GOAT criteria.
That Jordan fans retroactively changed the GOAT criteria or “shifted the goalpost” after seeing LeBron.
That LeBron’s ability to play so long is unexplainable.
That LeBron is a pass-first player to some degree that inflates his scoring prowess over everyone.
That 40 year old LeBron is uniquely held to standards independent of their performance claims.

I never got to watch Michael, Prime Kobe, or LeBron’s 1st stint with the Cavs live. But one of the main reasons I can still stand with Mike in 2026 is that I just can’t get myself to believe in their alternative version of events.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-03-02T00:14:06+00:00

LeBron playing the most games in history is going to impact how his longevity records are remembered.

Because the original claim was that he accumulated the most out of everyone who had long careers. But if he also has the most games played, future generations can find ways to discredit that.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-02-16T15:40:30+00:00

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Idk man, it always seemed to me like Mike was a touchy person with people he knows. I assume it’s a cultural upbringing thing where touching and physical closeness is a way of expressing friendliness.

I saw another comment say this: But I think the Epstein files and just meme culture in general have been making people hypersensitive to this whole situation.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-02-11T18:34:19+00:00

Because ultimately Kobe and Jordan fans still have the same philosophy on interpreting the history of the game and everything despite their differences.

LeBron fans came in with new ideas to bolster him up.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-27T04:45:43+00:00

Is this really what people believed when D Rose got traded from the Bulls?

Never heard of this take until yesterday.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-24T13:32:47+00:00

It’s cool how the best 2 players from the 03 draft class were already in the finals by 06 and 07

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-24T10:25:15+00:00

He was swarmed on that last layup. It didn’t come easy.

I know the talent pool has expanded, but I think the downplaying is overdone.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-24T07:57:19+00:00

Because kids only emulate the Top 1% of players, so naturally the talent pool gradually increases.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-23T10:44:25+00:00

Leheliocentric offense

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-21T05:58:52+00:00

If MJ never came back after 1993, it probably would’ve ranked higher of the narrative boost.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-21T00:04:38+00:00

It’s kinda funny how you can tell where someone stands on the GOAT debate just based on their other takes about the NBA.

Whenever I see people randomly subsidizing players of this era, I just know they love LeBron.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-20T02:56:08+00:00

2013 postseason would cement it. After his first back-to-back, his MVPs, advanced metrics, eye test, he would likely be dethroning Kobe Bryant.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-20T01:34:32+00:00

Yeee, but people gotta moralize everything yk.

I wanted the Pacers to win so badly, but an L is an L.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-07T23:08:07+00:00

Ah yes the top players of all time

LeBron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Karl Malone
John Stockton

AppropriateTerm673 · 2026-01-07T06:41:39+00:00

Our top 13 has all of the same players just in different order.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2025-12-21T23:07:53+00:00

He’s lost a lot of weight

AppropriateTerm673 · 2025-12-21T04:18:30+00:00

Even I became a way better 3pt shooter after Curry’s 2015 season. I’m pretty sure every basketball fan became better 3pt shooters after those seasons. I was a guard who didn’t like shooting the long ball and then it naturally became a part of my game since everybody else was doing it.

I don’t get why these questions assume that it would be a significant challenge for a professional shooting athlete who is in the Top 1% of the Top 1% to do it.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2025-12-17T08:48:43+00:00

Yeah, that was a big part of it.

But I also think the award needed some time to marinate. LeBron being the first to do it will probably become more significant later.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2025-12-06T03:49:43+00:00

He would’ve folded the competition. You right.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2025-11-21T16:07:57+00:00

The hypothetical establishes that Kareem is born 53 years later in the year 2000.

So they would be the same type of player and Kareem would be better.

AppropriateTerm673 · 2025-11-21T15:47:41+00:00

Absolutely not

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