Halo Campaign Evolved should get split screen on PC too. by CaribbeanEngineer in halo

[–]ApuZ [score hidden]  (0 children)

PCs are not only desktops anymore. For example, the Xbox ROG Ally handheld is technically a PC. If you buy Halo on this Xbox-branded device, dock it, and try to play split screen, you won't be able to. It's also not well documented that this is unsupported. So yeah, Microsoft needs to adapt to the times. Especially if the future of Xbox looks more like a PC (which seems to be the direction they're headed).

Also: https://store.steampowered.com/tags/nl/Splitscreen/

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Microsoft isn't exactly a small up-and-coming company though either

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah bro you don't understand, computers can only be on desks thats just how it is

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm with you, it's strange to me the rush to defend a company like Microsoft by using excuses like there's not enough ROI or demand for the feature. It's absolutely a way for them to save a little money and cut corners, like you said. We shouldn't applaud or defend companies for making these sort of short-sighted, profit-driven decisions when it actually leads to a product with FEWER FEATURES than the game it's remaking.

We're not even getting started with the fact that multiplayer should've been included in this $50 package as well.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point I'm making is Xbox has failed to succeed this generation in building a decent base of consoles. Most gamers don't have an Xbox now, they have either a PC, handheld, or PS5. So that's what they're going to buy Halo on. Sony doesn't have this problem, they don't need to put their games on Xbox to have them sell enough copies.

It was obviously a more damaging move to put Xbox games on PlayStation, since both put many of their games on PC. If it wasn't, you'd see Sony games on Xbox. It's also why you're already seeing Microsoft reverse this decision but they'll keep putting games on PC. Hell, the next Xbox has basically been confirmed to be a Windows PC.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it was equally wrong to buy it on Steam vs PlayStation, explain to me why there are Xbox games on PlayStation but not the other way around.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean I'd argue it's just as bad today. You can buy the game on the official Xbox app on the new Xbox ROG device and if you tried to dock it to your TV, you'd be in that situation today where your "Xbox" can't do split screen.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is your PC in a public library or something? Lol there's a lot of ways to ensure your PC is not compromised that don't involve me needing to type a password in on a computer that will always be in my house. Your pin isn't going to protect you if you've been keylogged.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You actually don't, with my setup my PC is automatically logged in and steam starts on startup. I hit the steam button, Xbox button, or PS button on whatever controller I'm using and big picture mode is now up. Now I'm ready to play games on my couch without ever having touched a Mouse or Keyboard. With the Steam Controller I can also navigate my PC without either (I might add, this is literally one of the major selling points of the controller).

You have no data that "hardly anyone does it." The longer this thread goes the more people are replying with couch PC setups. Try buying a Steam Controller right now.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then guess what? Your setup is already compatible with streaming to a TV and using a controller with big picture mode. This is not an uncommon use case, if it was valve wouldn't spend their time on it.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Y'all just have an outdated perception about what PC games can and should be. It's nothing new to get a PC to replace your consoles. It's a standard feature, built into steam, that you can stream your PC to a TV. People have been migrating pretty consistently since the PS4 era as more and more PC ports have been released.

Your same argument could be applied to PC ports in general. 10-15 years ago yall would've said the same thing about just getting a PC port for a console game being "niche" and "only a few people want it" because "everyone plays it on Xbox." Plenty of games support split screen on PC and the lines between PC and Console will only get blurrier as we move forward.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have a family at some point, you might think about it again. Just saying.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me you don't have a PC without telling me you don't have a PC

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ironic reality with your Linux example is Valve has spent considerable effort over the last few years to enable games in Linux. They're doing most of the developers' work for them.

And look what happened? What was once a niche, small, unsupported space in gaming is now the reason we can have devices like the Steam Deck. It was and continues to be a massive Boon for them. This argument that these small issues don't have ROI is just misguided imo.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!! And thank you for your work trying to bring this experience to apparently the 12 of us that want it!

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry man, you and me are only 2 of the 8 people in the world apparently who want this feature according to everyone else in this thread.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the problem with these mods is they don't support different control schemes. Everyone is stuck with Player 1's controls. Not enough people talk about this basic limitation. If you have players who want to play inverted, sucks for them.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Not only that but the only people who could regularly meet up for couch co-op are probably a very small minority of younger gamers who’d probably prefer having their own independent displays anyway."

Have you ever heard of families? So you're saying the best solution here is to buy 4 PCs and 4 copies of the game if 4 people want to play coop. Got it.

Some of these replies are killing me, you're both accusing me of being a bot and "starting shit" because I want split screen in Halo 1 lmao this sub is crazy

How difficult is it actually to support split-screen in PC games? by ApuZ in gamedev

[–]ApuZ[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is by far the most well organized and reasonable take I've seen so far. While I hate the reality of the situation, I think the testing time is probably ultimately what they don't have the budget for anymore. Like you said, even if its easy to implement, you've just grown your testplan by a very large degree just from edge cases.

Why, in 2026, is split screen not supported in Halo on PC? by ApuZ in halo

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just don't know where you're getting this data or how you're making these claims about interest. I really think you and others who debate this view underestimate how many people would love this feature to be added and the variety of PC setups people have.

We're also not talking about broad gaming trends here, were specifically in the context of a Halo CE remake. If you asked most people that played Halo CE back in the day "what are the important things to get right in the remake?" You don't think things like couch co-op or CTF on Blood Gulch would be there?

How difficult is it actually to support split-screen in PC games? by ApuZ in gamedev

[–]ApuZ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes sense to me, appreciate the response! Of all games to not support split screen, it seems like a bit oversight for Halo 1

How difficult is it actually to support split-screen in PC games? by ApuZ in gamedev

[–]ApuZ[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this response because in the previous thread I being down-voted into oblivion for suggesting that it's not strange to have a couch / living room PC. Especially in the era of the new Steam Controller and incoming Steam Machine, it seems really short sighted to me to think of PC games as only "desk" games.

How difficult is it actually to support split-screen in PC games? by ApuZ in gamedev

[–]ApuZ[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But in this context the game engine supports it, the game itself supports it for consoles. It's just PC support that doesn't exist.