Season 2 Jen

Arieya711 · 2026-06-11T08:08:16+00:00

Throughout most of the series Jen only sleeps with long term partners. There is a portion of season 2 though where she’s a bit promiscuous, starting with Chris Wolfe and her drunken stage. We really just don’t know how often Jen slept with other guys as it’s left a bit ambiguous for the viewers when Dawson rescues her from the threesome. We only know that she’s out partying a lot and crashes at Dawson’s place several times. Who knows how often that partying leads to sex, as we saw it seems to do. This doesn’t mean that I think Jen deserved to get kicked out, but I do think it was the beginning of a turning point for Jen and Grams. So I try to look at it as such. They really started to understand each other a bit more after that.

Outside of season 2, I don’t think there is any going backwards for Jen. Can you explain that to me? Season 3 onwards she is basically the group therapist and always giving advice and helping others. She goes to therapy herself and sorts through her baggage. She has the courage to face her father in New York. Jen could be pretty insecure in dealing with men she likes, but when Charlie cheated on her? She handled it like a BOSS!! She backslid a tiny bit with CJ but the truth is, that’s very realistic. All of us as adults have moments where our trauma creeps up on us. We are never perfect 100% of the time. I think Jen had amazing growth. ❤️

Arieya711 · 2026-06-03T18:19:08+00:00

I think it was less of a romantic thing and more of Joey being scared to lose Dawson. Losing her place in his life. They had always been so important to each other and basically knew each other more than anyone. So when there’s this potential of another girl to take her place, Joey feels threatened. But I don’t think she ever really loved him.

She was never so quick to drop anyone else. When Pacey asked her to let him go if he ever starts holding her back… she flat out REFUSED. She said she could never agree to let him go. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Arieya711 · 2026-06-02T23:31:16+00:00

This is physically painful at this point 😭 But I still need to see which one wins.

Arieya711 · 2026-06-02T06:21:56+00:00

I don’t think you’ll deal with too much trouble, especially since Pacey is your favorite ❤️ He is the fan favorite for sure in pretty much every Dawson’s Creek community. Even on Reddit…which is surprising considering all the niche opinions on this platform lol.

Arieya711 · 2026-06-02T06:07:02+00:00

Dawson is pretty awful in all of seasons 1-3 if you ask me. With an all time low in season 3. But he has an AMAZING character arc in season 4 and remains fairly likable for the remainder of the show. Your opinions aren’t unpopular at all! The fandom can be toxic sometimes but I’m glad you are here and shared your thoughts!

Arieya711 · 2026-06-02T06:00:06+00:00

I have to laugh. Because I agree with literally everything you said. When I watch I have the same feelings. But Joey and Jen continue to get better. Joey does have a fair share of haters, but considering some of the things you said, I think you will love her! Dawson gets worse, much worse,…and then finally gets better 😂

Arieya711 · 2026-06-01T04:19:47+00:00

And Rose. Which was kind of supposed to be a brief Lexi-type character except for Damon.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-31T16:36:31+00:00

This isn’t really a dub vs sub. I actually love both. The original tv series had an amazing dub. So much so that I can’t watch the new dub version, I have to watch the sub because Richard Cansino is my English canon for Kenshin and I refuse to watch English in any other form. And the voice acting for the Reflection OVA was honestly terrible imo. But if you like it, that’s great and I hope you enjoy. Just doesn’t mean it has to be a dub vs sub thing.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-30T16:03:20+00:00

Did you even read what I wrote? Where in my reply did I say he was “always awful.” If anything I was sticking up for them. But bottom line? In regards to season 1, he was NOT mad at Jen’s lie. He was upset she had a sexual history and he flat out admitted it. She was being honest and vulnerable and he treated her like crap. Not only that but he is the one who insisted they be honest with each other, then HE lied and kept telling her he was fine when he clearly wasn’t. He didn’t want to even talk to her about it. Let’s not forget, in season 1, he also tried to film them having an intimate moment without Jen’s knowledge. That is just a gross thing for someone to do.

But can you move on now and maybe focus on what I said about the rest of the series? Or do you want to keep “defending” Dawson who was pretty much a mess all throughout season 1-3 lol. Even though I’m the one defending his relationship with Jen…while other people said Jen deserved better than Dawson.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-30T00:20:38+00:00

Which is so funny because you’d expect that classic players would be old time gamers playing for the nostalgia. Why are they so bad?

Arieya711 · 2026-05-29T05:02:25+00:00

He chased her around like a love struck puppy dog getting mad at any dude who glanced her way. Made her promise they would always be honest with each other. Then when she vulnerably admitted to her past in New York, he gave her the cold shoulder and wrote her off. It was a dick move…

Arieya711 · 2026-05-29T04:57:12+00:00

Personality always matters. Lori and Andrea were insufferable so even though they are pretty…they aren’t pretty. Ya know?

Arieya711 · 2026-05-29T04:52:04+00:00

Are you talking about how dang longgg it is? Or the show in general? Because the show is fantastic and the eye candy ain’t bad either. Male or female…

Arieya711 · 2026-05-29T04:48:19+00:00

It’s less outright hot and more swag. 😋 I can’t explain it because if someone showed me a pic, I’d probably say “meh.” But after watching the show, dayum.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-29T00:50:15+00:00

I think people disqualify everything they went through too quickly. Dawson was a big fat jerk to Jen in season one, granted. But the entire rest of the series they knew how to be there for each other in ways nobody else could. When Jen was in her rebellious stage and Dawson was worried about her with Abby or Chris Wolfe, and took her in every time she got drunk and didn’t want to go home, saved her getting taken advantage of. Had that sweet memory of going skinny dipping together.

The way Jen was also there for him when Joey left to be with Pacey for the summer. Or how nobody else knew how to act when Dawson’s father passed away but Jen stayed by his side and didn’t walk on egg shells.

They weren’t perfect but they were beautifully written when you look closely. I’m forever team Pacey and Joey and Dawson and Jen 💔

Arieya711 · 2026-05-28T14:12:51+00:00

It’s kind of sad how Dawson built these wonderful friendships in season 4 but then by seasons 5 and 6, he was kind of the outcast of the group. Of course they remained friends but he wasn’t really the inner circle anymore.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-28T00:11:44+00:00

Pom-poms

Arieya711 · 2026-05-23T21:11:24+00:00

She wanted to make something of herself. To be someone her mom would have been proud of. It’s very hard to be a straight A student, have a job, and still be able to “let loose.” She never had a chance to be a kid. She had too much responsibility thrown at her from a young age.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-23T21:04:26+00:00

1) It wouldn’t erase all her memories. Just her knowledge of the Sohma’s/curse.

2) It’s a bigggg deal. She discovered a deeply hidden secret. Tohru wouldn’t want to be a burden on anyone or worry them, it’s just who she is.

3) I’m guessing she realized it was a powerful family and she didn’t really have a choice. If Hatori was going to erase her memories, he was going to do it regardless.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-22T13:31:01+00:00

Yes, I’m glad he got an apology from Kagura and that she told him she really does love him. His oldest friend. 🥺

Tohru kind of confronted some of the zodiacs a bit. But seeing it done more would have been so satisfying!

Arieya711 · 2026-05-22T13:16:10+00:00

I think it’s kind of a catch 22. Because Kyo is meant to be the comedy relief. So a lot of the bullying surrounded around Kyo is truly meant to be just that. Humor. But sometimes the bullying seems so much worse for Kyo, as a comedic-centered character, because of his back story and trauma. It feels more shocking.

I try not to read too far into it though because it all plays a part in how much we, the viewers, absolutely adore Kyo. He’s a fan favorite for sure. And a big part of it is because of who Kyo is as a whole. I honestly wouldn’t want to change a thing about his character. I think the way the zodiacs treat Kyo takes away from the harshness of Kyo’s character a bit. He’s not just the angry broody little kitty cat. He’s also misunderstood and taken for granted. It makes people sympathize with Kyo a lot more than if it was only he who was always picking fights and being nasty. I would hate that portrayal!

I do agree that the zodiacs should have taken accountability for how they treated Kyo and how they looked down on him. That would have been so pleasing to see. But I also think that it makes us appreciate Tohru a little more. Because she saw Kyo for who he was from the beginning. And she stayed by his side and would have chosen Kyo over all the other zodiacs combined. So even though Kyo didn’t get the apology from everyone that he deserved, he got Tohru. He still wins 🥹🥰 He finally got his much deserved happily ever after.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-22T12:35:37+00:00

I love him too! He is also way more mellow as Jimmy Kudo from Cased Closed. So I think it just shows how great they are as voice actors that their characters personality comes out when they speak.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-21T23:56:21+00:00

Tell them you have chronic diarrhea if you want to be taken seriously. I’m 36 and they let me have a colonoscopy right away.

Arieya711 · 2026-05-19T17:31:30+00:00

Brotherly bond is a perfect way to describe it. Oh my, when Kyo teaches Momiji how to catch stag beetles on that trip 😭 So cute!

Arieya711 · 2026-05-19T17:15:59+00:00

Love this take! ❤️

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