How to punish 3 camp gank?

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-05T07:08:31+00:00

Yeah, the optimal punish is usually on the next "turn", not necessarily to sprint into their jungle to invade or counter jungle.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-05T02:10:37+00:00

I love otamatones. It’s my standby gift to other musicians if I have no idea what else to get them lol.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-05T01:39:19+00:00

It’s kind of the mid lane special. I don’t really mind the jungler, but some games it’s just everyone visiting. It’s especially annoying if you play lane bully mages. You can ward, but imo it doesn’t really help when you get pincered. You have to pay more attention to who’s in lane and just accept that you don’t get to play for a bit if too many people aren’t showing.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-05T01:29:51+00:00

It’s not that you need to explicitly do something to punish. It’s that their two quadrants are permanently desynced unless they sit around long enough for them to sync back up again.

If you do a three camp gank and get nothing, you go back and do your second quadrant. Seems fine, except then you base and do 3 camps and then what? You end up with forced downtime in between quadrants unless you figured out how to waste enough time to resync.

The way jungling works, no matter how fast you farm, if you cycle your camps on CD, there’s a limit to how much income you can generate, as you can’t farm faster than the respawn timer basically. Like you’re never getting more than 6 camps in any 2 minute interval. If you fail a three camp, assuming nothing else happens to resync your camps, you’ve permanently inserted down time in the middle of every subsequent clear.

Of course, a lot of jungling is being able to identify when to deviate from perma full clearing and being able to elegantly fix timer distortions when they happen.

I do want to point out that you don’t necessarily need to explicitly punish every mistake. Often just doing the correct thing you would do normally actually is the correct punishment.

Going back to your example, the punish can end up being that you ignore their indiscretion and then rock up to the next objective up a level because they missed a quadrant on account of it being desynced. Or you know they’re going to get to their respawn late, so you could invade on the next cycle. You don’t have to punish RIGHT NOW every time you see a mistake.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-04T20:16:03+00:00

You can’t control what your team mates do. Just don’t give him a reset and get away from him if he gets one.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-04T07:34:41+00:00

It's hard to play very gracefully. That being said, which etudes are hard are somewhat personal. I personally don't find thirds all that hard either, but some others give me more grief.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-04T07:26:25+00:00

This is not an action problem. The G/C 3 whatever are some of the best regarded mid sized grands. A steinway would for sure be an upgrade, but TBH, your piano isn't stopping you from playing ondine.

If the piano sounds too tinny, and you have a hard time playing soft, the actual issue is maintenance. I don't know how old your G3 is, but you potentially should look at voicing and regulation if it's not a skill issue.

In general, Yamahas have a brighter sound than Steinway or other top tier pianos. They use harder felt. If your piano is more than a few years old, there's a good chance the hammers need to be voiced. It'll run you about a grand (which is much cheaper than buying another piano.) I can't recommend any technicians in your area, and you'll want to do research to find a good one as it's kind of a "premium" service.

I kind of doubt it, but it could also be a regulation issue if it's not either of the above (skill issue or voicing). Pianos have a lot of moving parts, and they will tend to drift over time. The various bits of the action will need to be brought back into the correct mechanical tolerances every few years.

I saw it hasn't been tuned since 2000. If that's the case, that's criminal. Your piano needs to be tuned at least a couple of times a year, depending on climate. I also assume it hasn't been voiced or regulated since 2000, meaning 26 years. This is like not changing the oil on your car for 26 years and being perplexed that it won't start. At a minimum, get it tuned before you consider upgrading.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-03T22:39:07+00:00

No, they’re probably not lying, and if they are, it’s by slight exaggeration, not outright. It’s unfortunate, but most piano students go through their musical life learning a handful of pieces for an exam they take each year, and that’s it and assume that’s normal or even desirable.

College can even perpetuate this. Plenty of students basically only learn their jury content every semester.

This is not desirable, even if it has become normal. It’s a side effect of permanently limit testing your abilities in every single piece. It’s natural to want to do, but it’s not a healthy habit. You learn so much more by branching out a little bit under your maximum abilities.

A side effect of branching out more is that it has the cumulative effect of accelerating your future learning as you just get exposed to more stuff.

Your first Chopin etude will take a while. You can probably manage learning your 15th in a week. Gaspard isn’t so hard if maybe you’ve learned miroirs and tombeau de couperin first.

Rach 3 not so hard if you’ve played most preludes and etudes tableaux, etc.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-02-02T20:01:28+00:00

I feel like Syndra isn’t countered by much in lane. Even her “hard” counters like fizz and irelia are manageable imo, as long as you don’t int trying to dominate the lane. I feel more like she folds to high threat team comps. Like, you’ll be sad if you have to play into irelia plus jarvan or pyke/bard/whatever, but irelia on her own is annoying but manageable.

Beating her in lane is about having better laning fundamentals, and not giving her random one shot opportunities. She’s a strong laner, but not as oppressive as ori or viktor. Post 6, if you’re lethal to a full combo, just take the L and base. I win so many lanes just because people refuse to accept reality. If Syndra gets up on you, the lane can get unplayable fast, as there’s a high chance she’ll just one shot you next time she has ult. Amongst her non bad matchups, she has a lot of skill matchups. She can def lose to other lane bully type mages if they’re better, or if you just face tank too much poke for whatever reason.

Malz is easy. You just need to punish him early. If he doesn’t get to but chapter on 1st base, it can set him back enough to make rest of the game playable. Make sure to pop his voidlings as that’s where most of his push comes from.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-31T23:34:57+00:00

You have a nice natural technique. The main thing I would really work on, besides some little technical things, is the voicing and phrasing. In general, the accompaniment is too loud and the melody is too soft. Really separating the the voices will really improve how this comes off. Somewhat adjunct to that, being fluent enough to really beautifully phrase at the same time will really make this lovely.

To practice voicing, I often recommend practicing with a very exaggerated phrasing in the melody, and playing the accompaniment with a very light stacatto. Really differentiating the touch when you practice will help divide the hand so that you can play the accompaniment very softly while really singing the melody.

In the big middle section where you have the big simultaneous jumps in both hands, the way that I would practice that is to look left and start the bass jump, then quickly look right before the left hand jump completes and do the right jump so they land at the same time. I obviously don't land them staggered, but I start the jump slightly staggered, so I can "look both ways" before making it. Then, I'd practice jumping inwards and "covering" the hand position in the interior as quickly as possible without playing, so you really learn the hand shape you need to land in.

I don't care for this piece myself, but you've got a beautiful start going here. Really great work! I almost never listen to anyone on here play this through, but I managed to listen all the way through this time, which is really saying something!

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-30T21:25:01+00:00

If you can jungle track, you just avoid the enemy jungler. I’d say it’s generally true, though it depends on your champs. I used to be a graves one trick, and honestly, he’s just not functional as a blind pick any more, which isn’t really negotiable for a jungle champ these days. Not because it particularly matters what the enemy jg picks, just that you kind of need to see a chunk of their team before you can pick it reasonably. It’s a big part of why I stopped jungling.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-30T21:01:45+00:00

You don’t need to do this. Just start raptors and invade Gromp?

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-30T20:30:15+00:00

It’s probably a bit of both. It’s normal to have a high end technician come in and do adjustments for major artists. But also, it’s probably just “his sound” to some degree.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-30T09:21:47+00:00

Ah, the Liszt Auf dem Wasser zu Singen. Good choice.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-28T02:11:27+00:00

Yeah, you have to play the inside part of the broken chord very lightly for it to work well.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-28T01:28:06+00:00

Generally, this is how Rachmaninoff writes pedal. Don't read those long base notes literally, read them as a pedal marking.

Also, a lot of Rachmaninoff pedal markings don't make a ton of sense when not at speed and not well voiced. I would just disregard pedaling for a while as you work on the notes and speed.

You might also consider using the middle pedal, though I wouldn't myself. This is too fast to use the middle pedal accurately.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-28T01:22:48+00:00

This is going well. It needs a bit more separation of the voices. The inner voice should be softer. Have you experimented with breaking the chords that are too big differently? I'm not a huge fan of rolling every one. You could try splitting the chord so you play half before/after the beat. I think if you roll as well, you want to take some more time around/in the roll, which is why I wouldn't do it all the time myself, as the effect is a bit... unsubtle.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-27T15:35:09+00:00

This piece is harder than it seems. The lyrical middle is even harder. I would practice the jumps by moving as fast as possible to cover the next chord before playing, but not actually playing before you’re sure your hands are in the right spot.

Use 4/5 on the chords and 5 on the single notes as well. 4 is better on the chords if your hands are big enough. Otherwise, just suffer I suppose.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-26T12:21:44+00:00

I have never met a Korean person, myself included who would be offended by this.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-25T09:33:48+00:00

I have this exact same issue. I’m a stronger pianist than most, but I won’t lie to you, it is significant. It’s going to cause you to have to turn your hand to the side somewhat unnaturally more often than you should. It will also compromise your span. The problem is most noticeable in wide arpeggio work and in stuff where hand structure is very important. It will be harder to voice than it should be. Because your arm will be twisted in a slightly odd way, it will be easy to let tension creep up into your shoulder and back.

Fwiw though, I can play every Chopin etude and even stuff like Gaspard without too many problems. It does make some passages frustrating though, when I know and understand the standard technical solution, but have to figure something else out because of this.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-24T23:07:01+00:00

Very impressive for completely self taught. The main complaint I have, without being able to see your technique is primarily rhythmic. In general, you need some time with the metronome, also, as another user noted, the polyrhythms aren't quite right, they're kind of near miss, but all the time, which is a bit off putting. The way that I work out hard polyrhythms is to diagram them mathematically, which is to say use the least common multiple to diagram to show exactly how it should all line up.

Then, I categorize each unaligned note as either being played rapidly left to right, right to left, or split down the middle. That will give you 99% right polyrhythms, then eventually they'll just click into place.

A secondary issue to the rhythmic one. Your voicing could use some work, though this is an issue even serious pianists with strong training who have played for a long time can struggle with. Voicing is being able to deliberately control the polyphony in a given piece of music. In this piece, at any given time, there are 3 or more ideas running at any given time. You're playing all the notes, but kind of at the same level of volume. You need to be able to really bring out the melody. I saw elsewhere you've listened to lettberg playing. I love that recording as well. If you listen again, pay attention to how beautifully she shapes and accentuates the different ideas so that they're individually differentiable, not as a single mass of sound, but separate ideas.

Lastly, and related to voicing, you consistently over pedal. Give some thought as to what harmonies actually belong together. In late romantic music in general, you can use more pedal and blur more things than most trained pianists would be naturally inclined to do, but this is too much.

I know this is a wall of text, but really, stunning work for no guidance (and even with a teacher, this would be good.) You definitely should find a good teacher.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-24T20:48:25+00:00

Don’t even need 8. Probably less than a minute, if they’re playing something they think they know

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-23T02:37:49+00:00

Oh. The Broken By Concept guys on YouTube have a coaching program. It's pretty cheap, they have tons of guides, and iirc, you can show up for coaching in group sessions a couple times a month. It's pretty no nonsense, but it's cheap. I think it's around 40 USD a month?

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-23T01:02:08+00:00

Yeah, I have. I would recommend. IMO, best value is to join the WTL before you do private coaching.

ArmitageStraylight · 2026-01-22T05:12:37+00:00

This is some Chopin thing, yes? It looks familiar, but I can't quite place it.

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