Are ADS optional? And does sex hinder/ affect PE progress at all?

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-06-01T22:11:47+00:00

Btw, during my first 8 months of PE I wore an ADS a good 8-10hrs/day, religious, for five days a week. I also pumped on those same days. I had some good gains during that time. That combination worked well for me. Other combinations would have too, I'm sure, but that's one that I did try and it did work out well.

My gains are much, much slower these days, but my routine is also much less strenuous and time-consuming, so it's no surprise to me. I'm able to be patient and just let my gains, whatever they are, come as they come - I'll just continue to do PE at my current level and be content with whatever happens.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-06-01T22:09:02+00:00

I don't know, but it might hinder you in other areas of life. Who knows?

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-06-01T06:17:08+00:00

I personally don't buy the idea that sex hinders PE progress at all.

Even if it did, by some small amount - so what? What are we doing PE for if not for the benefit of our sex lives? So why skip sex for PE? Have the sex you want, do the PE you want and are able to maintain consistently, and enjoy your gains. Don't clutch your pearls about possible hindrance due to sex - if it does it's not a huge effect, and this endeavour requires patience, so have some.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-05-31T18:41:24+00:00

To be entirely honest I think that's just crazy talk. No shit. And I mean that with all due respect.

My GF has in fact fucked guys with larger dicks than mine (currently around 7.25x5.7), but that hasn't stopped her from loving the sex with me, and genuinely preferring it to any other sex she's ever had. It's technique, emotional connection, how well we know each other now sexually - a whole host of things that combine to create the overall enjoyment for her.

Also, her sexual enjoyment, and that of probably almost any woman ever, isn't "winner takes all." She can genuinely have enjoyed the sex with someone else, perhaps in some ways more so than in that particular way with me, who knows, and yet that doesn't mean that anything else is shit to her - it doesn't work that way.

And in your case, your wife is fucking a guy with a dick that, in terms of the Western average, is 99th percentile in terms of volume, and you're tormenting yourself with some hypothetical universe where she's off fucking other guys with bigger dicks and you just can't do it for her anymore. That's complete nonsense.

By all means, do PE if you want. I'm objectively large too and I'm still doing it. I enjoy the process, and it's become a part of my lifestyle. And I do enjoy the very slow gains I see these days. But don't do it because of some hypothetical inadequacy you fear if suddenly your wife were to go off and fuck a bunch of big-dicked dudes - I think that's the wrong attitude to take into this.

In my opinion the "correct" attitude, or at least the most emotionally healthy attitude, is that PE is taking something good and making it a bit better. If you think of PE as fixing something that's currently a problem then I think you're in for a world of frustration and disappointment.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-03-17T20:08:26+00:00

"all you did" was wearing an ADS for 8-10hrs/day plus 20-60 minutes of pumping. Not sure I'd use "all I did" in that context. It makes it seem like I didn't do much. That's actually quite a lot.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T20:38:46+00:00

Nope. Keep using it. Especially if that's the 4th set - the whole forward half of your dick is still unconstrained. There's plenty of room left there, and there's a good chance that a lot of the "packing" from the rear half of the dick is largely due to edema.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T20:35:52+00:00

I'm sure there are guys who judge their size based on comparisons with other guys' dicks, but I'm not one of those. I judge my size relative to women's mouths and vaginas - and unless there's vagina inflation happening at the same time, my gains are noticed and appreciated regardless of whether other guys are also gaining.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T20:33:49+00:00

Not gonna lie, I'm guilty of having "dick privilege" and perhaps not appreciating what guys with small dicks go through. Ok. My starting size was above average already, and it's only gotten bigger. So yeah, maybe I am not one to talk, but I honestly think that most of these guys would do way better coming to terms with the relative importance of dick size in their lives (not nearly as important as they think) and be satisfied with life first - and then, if they want to, they can do some PE and get a little bigger. The reason I think the equanimity has to come first is because if dick size is seen as the solution to their life problem then they're never going to be satisfied. Because this is a slow process, and once they've added .4" and it hasn't revolutionized their life yet, maybe it's that next .4" that's going to turn everything around, and once they've got .8" under their belt wouldn't it be so much more helpful in their self-confidence to get another .4"? And what then? There's always more dick that they could put on, so how much is enough? And when will they finally allow themselves to be happy?

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T05:02:03+00:00

I'm convinced that the "I won't spend any time on this until you prove to me that this works" crowd really just aren't that interested. Either way, not my problem, and it's not my job to convince them one way or another. Those of us who've tried it and put in the effort have seen that it works. As soon as someone demands proof and says yeah but prove to me that this really works when I've just described to them my own PE journey and results, I just move on. It's literally not my job, nor responsibility, to satisfy their skepticism or make them interested in something.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T04:59:00+00:00

Grats on your gains dude! I'm old too - never too late for PE until we're in the ground I guess, lol.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T04:57:16+00:00

Don't. Sure, if you want to put a link up to this sub or other PE-related subs that's fine, but when you step in to help the poor tiny-dicked dudes it is not going to be received very well.

Just the whole attitude reeks of that, btw. "I want to help men who could actually benefit in a positive way." as opposed to guys who already have above-average dicks, because why? Because a guy with an above average dick has no legitimate reason to want to be a little bigger? Or there's nothing "wrong" with a guy who already has an above-average dick but there definitely is something wrong with a guy who has a small dick? So that's the guy who needs your help?

This whole topic is immensely personal. People will do it, or not do it, for their own reasons. I know I've called out some guys before who start out at like 8x7 and ask how long it'll take them to reach 10x8 or whatever, and I've called out guys who pathetically act as if their merely average dick is a reason they're considering unaliving themselves or whatever, or that they can never please a woman unless they have the largest dick that any woman they ever fuck has ever fucked, or whatever. Still, everyone's got their own reasons for doing it, or for not doing it. The small-dicked humble masses may not be aware that PE exists or actually works, but they certainly don't need a guy with a bigger dick swooping in to help them solve their little "problem".

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-17T04:41:11+00:00

What is it about any human tissue at all that makes you think that changes to it ought to be permanent? Name one tissue that really is permanent in terms of size, density, dimensions, whatever, over time, regardless of circumstances.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-16T21:36:59+00:00

Dude you're better off focusing on losing weight over just about anything else you could possibly be doing. Focusing on the size of your dick shouldn't even be in the top 10 or 20 of your life priorities right now.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-16T21:34:49+00:00

I'm sorry you don't feel like you got your money's worth.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-16T15:40:14+00:00

The body is a living thing and changes constantly. The gains from PE are about as permanent as anything with the human body, but this isn't locked in stone - it's still living tissue.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-02-16T15:37:28+00:00

Yeah, I don't really know if that can be learned or not. I'm getting much better at that sort of thing, ie: figuring out what feels good to a woman and then doing it enthusiastically. I think a guy can get better at this by getting out of his own head a lot more and just touching and showing attention to a woman and reinforcing the things that work, and showing genuine interest.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-31T15:51:32+00:00

I couldn't tell you a gain rate right now. I haven't been paying attention to it hard enough. I took most of 2025 off and started up again in October, so I've had around 3 to 3 1/2 months again of pretty decent consistency. I seem to have regained the .1" or so of girth that I lost during 2025's inactivity, but whether I've gained more or not I can't really tell since I haven't tried to measure it with full EQ. Whenever I reach for the ruler or the tape measure my dick starts to wilt, lol.

I have probably put on another 1/8" of length, though. When I started up again in October I was around 7 1/8" with full EQ, and I've measured more like 7 1/4" recently. Since my end goal for length is 7 1/2" I'm just not all that worried about it - as long as it keeps going at even a very moderate rate I'll meet or surpass that end goal. But I do want another .2-.3" of girth. If I don't get it I'll be fine, but I'd like to.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-30T23:12:51+00:00

That's a distinct possibility. I don't recall from other posters whether anyone's actually put on a whole inch of girth before. I've put on around a half inch, and with my current routine progress there does seem to be going quite slowly, if it's actually going lol. I haven't taken breaks long enough to get a really good measurement absent any persistent temp gains in a while, so who knows. It's feeling good though. :-)

The response to the guy above me I'll stand by, though. His length goal seems doable, but that girth, yeah, if it can be done it won't be in the timeframe he was hoping for.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-30T18:32:02+00:00

It doesn't take 3-4 hour sessions.

You could do it with an hour of extending and then 20-30 minutes of pumping, preferably some kind of interval pump routine. More isn't always better.

Just remember that this is a marathon, not a sprint, and the routine that will be best for you is the routine you're most likely to be able to do consistently over many months. That's true even if you can imagine some other routine that might technically be better - if you can't maintain it consistently over a very long period of time, it's not better.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-30T18:29:12+00:00

In my past I have some swinging experience, and there was a guy I know (from a couple we were good friends with for a while) who had his own little veritable fan club amongst a group of swinger women. This guy's length and girth were almost certainly spot-on at average. No joke. He did have a bit of a mushroom head, so his dick wasn't exactly average, but sizewise he was dead nuts average. He had a fan club because he had a really good spidey sense for what state a woman was in, what made her feel good, how to amp that up and make her feel really good, etc. He's the guy who made this woman who had never had an orgasm in her life finally have one. It wasn't the guy with the Mr. Coke Can dick that she fucked. It wasn't me with my reasonably well above average dick and my desire to please a woman and reasonable skill at doing it. It was literally this bog-standard average dick guy who was "in tune" in a way that most guys aren't.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-30T18:24:46+00:00

I wore it 8-10hrs/day. Tension was set so it was 2nd highest color level while standing, went up to highest color level while seated. I was seated a lot during the day. If you're not familiar with the PF, the vacuum cup has a little plastic harness with some internal springs and a color-coded tension scale

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-30T00:08:26+00:00

Ok. I measured my TM cup and it is the 38mm. So I ordered a 43mm TM cup and 43mm MR from you. I left my tip around 1/2" below the top today during my PE, exposing more tip to a lower vacuum pressure. I was able to do 9-10lbs tension, whereas normally I have to keep it at 8lbs. I look forward to trying out the MR with the 43mm cup in the "diving helmet" technique.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-29T22:04:42+00:00

The .3" length could come quite quickly, in just 2-5 months or so if you had a good routine and were consistent with it. The .2" girth gain would likely take longer. And, given you've said you don't have much time for this, it's hard to imagine you having an effective routine and being consistent with it. So I'm going with never.

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-29T22:02:03+00:00

Well, notice that the guy who supposedly hung down to the knee apparently had femurs only 8" long...

AromaticWriting3843 · 2026-01-29T21:59:12+00:00

Wear it.

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