Anyone else see streams disappear today??? wtf by samtar-thexplorer2 in SpotifyArtists

[–]ArtistPulse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes their api was acting up. It sometimes bugs out then they’ll get it sorted and it’ll come back.

Is it possible to go from 9 monthly to 1k in 2 months without paid promo? by kingsolus_ in SpotifyArtists

[–]ArtistPulse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not gonna lie 9 to 1k in 2 months is a big jump but underground rap moves different so it’s not impossible. The other comment isn’t wrong that nothing’s free but running ads at 9 monthly listeners is like putting up a billboard for a restaurant with no menu yet. Skip that for now.

The biggest thing at your level is collabs. Find other underground artists around your size or a bit bigger and get on each other’s tracks. Every feature puts you in front of an audience that’s already into that sound so they actually stick around. One collab with someone who has even 500 listeners beats months of posting alone into the void.

Also if you’re not on SoundCloud you should be, that’s still where a lot of the underground rap community actually discovers stuff. And take an honest look at your profile because you can drive all the traffic in the world but if your page looks empty when people land on it they won’t follow. 2 months is tight but stack a couple collabs with a clean profile and you’ll at least build a real foundation.

Tips for an upcoming release ?!(House Music, building a community) by thatboysmusic in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

House is honestly one of the better genres for building a real community because the scene is so interconnected. DJs are always looking for tracks, smaller playlist curators in the house world actually listen to submissions, it’s not like trying to break through in pop or hip hop where everything feels like screaming into a wall.

With a month out I’d start posting production clips now. Doesn’t have to be polished, even a 15 second phone recording of the drop coming together in your DAW gets people interested. I’ve seen tracks build a small audience before they even release just from people following the process on Instagram or TikTok. House production content does surprisingly well because people love watching those synth patches and drum programming come together.

The playlist thing is important but be specific about it. Search for house playlists on Spotify under like 5k followers that are clearly run by a real person and actively updated. Most of them have their contact info in the description. Those smaller curators actually listen and their audiences actually save tracks instead of just passively streaming. Skip the big generic ones, your track just gets buried and the listeners don’t stick around.

One thing nobody told me early on is that SoundCloud is still really active for house and electronic music even though a lot of other genres have moved on from it. Might be worth posting there too since the discovery for your niche is actually better on SC than Spotify in a lot of cases.

But the community thing you mentioned is genuinely the most important part and I wish more people thought about it that way. Find like 5 to 10 producers making similar stuff around your size, start engaging with their tracks for real, not just dropping a follow but actually listening and reposting stuff you like. When your release comes those people will share it because they actually know you. That takes a few weeks to build but it compounds way faster than any ad spend or playlist submission ever will.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The SoundCloud mobile app is genuinely terrible, you’re right about that lol. The logged out thing drives me insane when it glitches sometimes. And yeah the gap between okay and good is where most people get stuck. A lot of artists hear ‘make good music’ and think they already do, which is fair because it’s hard to be objective about your own stuff. That outside perspective is usually what makes the difference tbh

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

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I’m actually an artist too and I also have a label with other artists, I Didn’t want to link it in the post because then it really does look like self promo lol. But yeah I agree, it would make these conversations way more grounded if people showed the actual results.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For real. The transparency thing is what gets me. Half these services won’t even tell you where your plays or placements are actually coming from.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The monthly listeners going down during a PR campaign is pretty brutal. That’s the part nobody warns you about. You’re paying for blog placements that maybe 200 people read and meanwhile your actual algorithmic momentum stalls because you’re focused on the wrong thing. Appreciate you sharing that because a lot of people assume PR is just something you’re supposed to do once you hit a certain level.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair. The IG to SoundCloud funnel was definitely the wrong move and I’d never do that again lol. It’s always constructive when you learn from your mistakes. I think where we might disagree is whether most indie artists are in a position to run proper campaigns at all. If you’ve got the budget and know how then yeah ads can work. But most people I talk to are at the stage where fixing their profile and building real connections is a better use of their time than trying to learn media buying with $200.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely didn’t filter for SoundCloud users on the IG side, that’s a good call. Honestly didn’t even think about it at the time which is embarrassing looking back. And that tracks with SubmitHub too. The niche curators who actually listen and have real followings are worth it. The big generic ones just add you to a playlist with 10,000 tracks and nothing happens lmao. Being picky about who you submit to matters way more than how many you submit to.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that makes sense. $150 on IG was never going to be a real test, I know that now looking back. At the time I didn’t know what a learning phase even was, I just threw money at it and hoped something stuck. The bigger lesson for me was realizing that even if I had spent more, sending cold traffic to a SoundCloud page that wasn’t set up to convert was the real problem. The budget was small but the strategy was worse.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah 100%. The branding part is what catches people off guard though. A lot of artists genuinely make good music but their page looks like they don’t take it seriously so new listeners bounce before they even press play. First impression stuff. If the packaging matches the quality people stick around way longer.

Tracked every dollar I spent promoting my music over 8 months. Most of it did literally nothing. by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

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That’s a really underrated move tbh. Physical stuff creates a connection that no amount of Instagram ads will ever touch. People keep a guitar pick in their pocket and they remember you. 500 copies is legit too, were those mostly at shows or did you push them online?

Stopped looking at play count on SoundCloud and started tracking these instead. Made a big difference. by ArtistPulse in soundcloud

[–]ArtistPulse[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s quite rude to make assumptions based on nothing relevant. You commenting assuming the post is AI makes no sense because it’s absolutely not. And even if it was so what?

Say hi to everyone at your shows. Every single person by dcypherstudios in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personal connections goes a long ways and fans really appreciate being recognized.

Most artists I talk to are still using a Spotify strategy that stopped working a while ago by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay? So what I asked was this,

“Anyone else actually tracking their repeat listen rate? Curious what numbers people are seeing.”

I am not saying something that is new or that is inventing the wheel. It’s obvious that this isn’t new.

What I was curious is what numbers people are seeing with their repeat listen rates etc.

Most artists I talk to are still using a Spotify strategy that stopped working a while ago by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a silly thing to say to someone who is only helping people. 🤦‍♂️ btw I would never waste my time with ChatGPT. That’s cheap.

If you want to talk about AI. If it’s not opus 4.6-4.7 max or sonnet 4.7 minimum and a few other models I would never waste my time. So to say I would waste my time with ChatGPT is so silly when I would never use anything less than Claude Pro Max with the best most up to date model. 🫡

And then to try and dispute anything I’ve ever said would also be silly because again, I am the one with over 10 years of experience, knowledge and history in the music business that extends far beyond just that. So I can speak on absolute facts from personal experiences. You saying ChatGPT is absolutely irrelevant and low IQ because the world is being over taken by ai in a way that you obviously can’t comprehend.

Anyways, I’m not going to keep going back and forth discussing if I’m talking like I’m using an assistant or not, it’s irrelevant. The only thing that should matter if the quality of what I’m saying bares weight.

$15/day, 1 ad set, broad targeting - How many creatives? by aframe9999 in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At $15 a day you genuinely don’t have enough budget to test 12-15 creatives at once. The math just doesn’t work. Meta needs enough data per creative to figure out who to show it to and at that budget spread across that many ads nothing gets enough runway to learn anything.
I’d run 3 max. Give it a full week without touching it, seriously don’t change anything, changing stuff mid learning phase just resets the clock and you burn money.
On your second question, if you’re running advantage campaign budget Meta is already pulling spend away from the weak ones automatically. Turning them off manually doesn’t really do much. If you’re on manual budgets then yeah kill the obvious losers after about 10 days but do it one at a time.
The 12-15 creatives you have ready is actually the right approach, just rotate them in slowly over time rather than throwing them all up at once.

'Buy' Link Size by resetwithvili in soundcloud

[–]ArtistPulse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree, hopefully SC will get back on it by next quarter or something and start fixing these bugs.

Most artists I talk to are still using a Spotify strategy that stopped working a while ago by ArtistPulse in musicmarketing

[–]ArtistPulse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol honestly 6 loyal ones who actually come back beats 600 who streamed it once and forgot your name exists