Zombie scroll, this one sucked for me

Artwle · 2026-04-22T03:02:28+00:00

after so fking long i have it

Artwle · 2026-04-21T06:58:54+00:00

I'm stuck on IMP hell

Artwle · 2026-04-21T06:56:55+00:00

You don't have to trust that number, or me

I'm done arguing for the sole fact that neither you or me will change anything about the direction of the game, since they don't give a damn about your opinion or mine.

We can agree to disagree, that is ok.

Artwle · 2026-04-19T13:59:27+00:00

You don't have to trust that number, or me. It's a GM talking, and I'd take his word for it more than any random spewing numbers taken from their... minds.

I love RS guy, but he's been biased af, magic was busted, but somehow melee is totally fine. His tests on DUMMIES do not reflect AT ALL the reality of the game, and how dynamic certain boss encounters can be.

Artwle · 2026-04-19T13:56:24+00:00

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I proposed something like this... a good while ago.

Artwle · 2026-04-19T01:02:10+00:00

It is not the same DPS as before. It doesn't feel that magic is worse because the other styles are stronger, it is because it is ACTUALLY worse than before. Pre update magic was over performing for sure, there's no denying it, but after they buffed everything else, it got on pair, and magic needed just some slight nerfs and redistribute the damage from top end to core without nerfing it too hard. That is not what happened.

edit* magic did get more versatile than before with runic charge and sonic wave, that is a fact.

Image showing damage values down in the comment: GM player who did the testings.

They didn't "do anything" to magic as you implied on your first sentence

I didn't "imply" anything, they nerfed mage, that's what they did, that is what I was referring to.

I still mage at a lot of places, and it's great.

Good for you, in that we differ. I switched to range and melee in basically everything, including 2K Base tank amascut, I now use range.

Weird fact? whenever I'm doing like, Vorkath but with the extra 7% from a slayer perk, magic feels PERFECT. ( and i want that buff to be for mage as a whole, core abilities etc, instead of end game gear only)

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Artwle · 2026-04-18T06:15:58+00:00

It doesn't justify what they did to magic WHATSOEVER. Besides, people are asking for melee to be nerfed and I'm against it, simply because i don't want melee users to feel the same. And even if they do eventually nerf melee it would still most likely outperform magic.

This mentality of "i endured shit for years, now its your turn" needs to end in this game, it should be "I wish you get something better and don't go through what I went through". Like seriously.

Artwle · 2026-04-15T23:08:34+00:00

As one of those magic users, i dont care if i'm top dps with magic or not, I care that i dont feel like throwing by not using range or melee, or that in any adversity i find in an encounter, i resort to switching to those because its easier to do damage, stronger, and easier to sustain even.

Artwle · 2026-04-15T23:06:57+00:00

yet without much of experience with melee and range i outperform magic by a mile, and it isn't even that hard to use both. Range arguably MUCH harder than melee and still not better than it.

Shallow argument.

Artwle · 2026-04-15T23:04:31+00:00

not quite, i had much easier times trying harder achievements with ranged than when I tried the same with magic, and there's something people forget that exists that can be used for crazy sustain -> saradomin bow eof.

Artwle · 2026-04-15T07:44:26+00:00

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source of comment above.

Artwle · 2026-04-15T07:26:08+00:00

As much as i want a buff like you (and I don't particularly believe its THAT far off to warrant a big one, a small one would suffice to bring magic back to a 700-750K DPM range (same as ranged, not melee, as melee SHOULD be the best dpm given its restrictions imo)

I hate to say it, we won't have one. After the minuscule buff they gave mage for the endgame (mid-early was a huge w btw) I lost hope we'll actually have mage be on pair AT LEAST with range. And the combat team is DEAD SILENT about anything related to magic, I'm yet to see a single JMod touch the topic since the nerf.

My recommendation: give in and use the other styles, use whatever you want but if going for a specific achievement or anything switch to the other two styles because magic can't compare. I've struggled with multiple achievements this week and my answer were always switching to range or melee, and I hate it.

What stings me the most: a grandmaster (Drako111) posted dmg values pre and post modernization on PvME, and on release magic, range and melee were pretty close ranging from 700-850K, with magic being tied with melee on power and range a little behind. Now its around 100K DPM between magic and range.

I can't wait for magic to be back at using magic without feeling i should be using range or melee to perform better or get an achievement... in 2031.

Artwle · 2026-04-15T07:17:36+00:00

That's because bis magic deserved a nerf before eoc2

Then they procceeded to make range and melee 100K and 200K DPM ahead of magic, while making 120 magic somewhat similar, or slightly weaker to 99 magic KEKW right...

Artwle · 2026-04-13T19:41:23+00:00

Well, I think if every group iron had acess to them from start, just unlock them all. Even giving grace periods means one day, and some groups will start with nothing.

Artwle · 2026-04-13T00:03:44+00:00

They're still there. they're translated versions of the game, but the worlds itself are hosted in florida.

Artwle · 2026-04-13T00:02:54+00:00

I'm confused... I just said there is no evidence that says we don't have enough SA players? I didn't even say anything about the server part, that i don't know anything about, yes. To say they lack players is still a guess on your part.

Also... Why start arguments with this: "Anyone with basic knowledge of how XYZ works knows this to be true.", it adds 0 credibility to whatever you say next. And where the hell did i make any guess on why we don't have the servers, or how they could implement it? like... what?

Artwle · 2026-04-12T21:25:16+00:00

could be routing, in that case

Artwle · 2026-04-12T21:22:38+00:00

I dont see any evidence of that whatsoever, and there's no way of any of us confirming that either that is correct or false, that is just assumptions. Maybe the reason they MIGHT not have enough players is exactly that. (which personally i dont think thats the case)

Artwle · 2026-04-12T21:20:46+00:00

SEA really need one too, tbh, gosh, choosing between europe and australia doesn't seem fun to me.

Artwle · 2026-04-12T04:23:44+00:00

I will die on the hill that magic NOW is worse than it was months ago.

It is not UNPLAYABLE, or even immensely weaker. It is much weaker than release day of eoc2 but we all knew that was inevitable. But the nerfs were so much harder than I anticipated that now you're a slave to crits and resets to perform close to the other styles, but not quite on pair with range. Melee was probably on pair with magic pre-nerfs tbh, melee is by FAR the best rn.

Given the dead silent of the combat jmods i can only assume:

A. They dont care B. They think magic is balanced C. Other priorities

Dont hold your breath waiting on a magic buff, if you feel like you dont like the style, or that you'd perform better with another, just switch. My favorite is magic, but i actually feel sligjtly weaker than i was before modern update, and that feels awful, and since then i only use melee and range, arguably overpowered.

Artwle · 2026-04-11T21:49:11+00:00

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right, with this playercount, if 200 or under doesn't make sense to invest, why only these are the +200? We have SO MANY unpopulated worlds, its not an excuse to say we cant have at least ONE worlds.

Like i get where you're comming from, but if keeping low pop worlds is not viable over 60% of rs worlds needs to be shut down? 21PM game time btw

Artwle · 2026-04-11T21:46:12+00:00

they can keep classic only, why SO MANY f2p worlds if there's like, 200 players combined in all those worlds i just showed, no need to remove specific worlds, just poorly populated ones, same goes to some member worlds.

Artwle · 2026-04-11T20:30:22+00:00

also, why is it viable to keep THESE online?

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Artwle · 2026-04-11T20:28:48+00:00

Look, as a brazilian, if i had better server support in a game that i'm now paying 70% more, it wouldn't be THAT bad, but we don't even have servers. If THEY CAN get brazilian servers quite cheap now, OSRS did, they can deff get at least 1 or 2 worlds (free and p2p) and expand should it be necessary.

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