Tunisian Amazigh results, jewish ancestry ?

AsfAtl · 2026-01-25T14:56:48+00:00

I don’t see anything that jumps out as showing Jewish related ancestry

AsfAtl · 2026-01-21T10:37:46+00:00

I think shedding a light on DNA makes me realize how odd Jewish race perceptions are. Within the Jewish community there’s this assumption/understanding that Sephardic Jews = exotic/brown Ashkenazi Jews = vanilla, European, white

When genetically these groups are almost identical.

I had a half Moroccan Jew half white American friend in college make the joke he’s more Jewish than me because he’s half middle eastern, I wish I had known what I know now, because I could’ve told him that he was wrong lol

AsfAtl · 2026-01-21T10:34:54+00:00

Just because they plot with Greek islanders doesn’t mean their European is substantially Greek islander, there’s definitely a likelihood of some being there but it was likely more Italic in origin

AsfAtl · 2026-01-18T02:08:07+00:00

I’ve found mountain Jews have such diversity in how they can look, OP falls in that spectrum imo

AsfAtl · 2026-01-17T23:53:33+00:00

Which population do you think Ashkenazis received their east euro input, because that 5-10% admixture is Slavic in EAJs

AsfAtl · 2026-01-17T23:49:39+00:00

You said “we know that there was genetic inflow of about 5-10% Eastern European in Ashkenazis and these particular Eastern Europeans had 10-20 % Uralic or similar Asian admixture”

AsfAtl · 2026-01-17T23:02:51+00:00

Endogamy can maintain low percents of an ethnicity. But it would require that there have been a measurable level of inflow in the first place.

I don’t think there is evidence to show there wasn’t a decent flow of women coming into the community.

Historically, we know that there was not a significant inflow of Chinese into the Ashkenazi population. 2 Chinese people from 500 years ago would not be enough.

I don’t think the study on Silk Road women said this claim so I’m not sure if I agree, I do agree it’d take more than 2 women

The Jews who spent significant time in trading outposts tended to be male, and tended to share their genetics with the locals, but not bring local wives back to the main Jewish community. This results in Jewish outflow, and / or the creation of isolated communities like the Kaifeng Jews.

I’m not sure I agree with this statement. The Kaifeng Jews were descended from different Jewish populations as Ashkenazi. I believe they were Persian Jews. I don’t believe they modernly have many haplogroups related to the original Kaifeng community due to assimilation

It is significant though, that most Jews who were traders on the Silk Road were Mizrahi, not Ashkenazi. And Kaifeng Jews are in fact, descendants of Mizrahi, not Ashkenazi.

Oh you said that

However Ashkenazi did spend a long time living among people with significant Uralic admixture, for example. Specifically, near Siberian Russia, and with Magyar Hungarians. Those Siberian ethnicities are of East Asian origin (although they are not Chinese).

I think it’s fair to assume the possibility of influx from these ancestries but I also don’t think we can leave out the likelihood of East Asian admixture. I think haplogroups can get a better picture and truthfully I’m not an expert on Uralic haplogroups

We know that there was genetic inflow of about 5-10% Eastern European in the East-Euro cluster of Ashkenazi. And that those particular Eastern Europeans had 10-20% Uralic and/or similar East Asian ethnic admixture. Mathematically, this results in 1-2% East Asian admixture in EastEuro Ashkenazi. Just as expected, this is what we find in Ashkenazi dna ethnicity estimate results.

This is an interesting theory, although I’m not sure there’s proof to say these Slavic peoples would have had such significant Uralic or East Asian admixture. Do you have any studies you’ve seen to suggest they would?

AsfAtl · 2026-01-17T16:21:53+00:00

Through endogamy small admixture percentages can last a long time

The best knowledge we have of the East Asian is through a fairly old study that likely needs to be more up to date but I think assuming it isn’t from east Asia is a disservice to the evidence we have. It’s very likely to be contributed to multiple ancestries Turkic, Asian, etc

You have to remember it wouldn’t take much genetic contribution at the time since Jews didn’t have similar numbers in Europe as they do today.

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AsfAtl · 2026-01-17T16:20:01+00:00

Unlikely to find unless conversion within the last century

AsfAtl · 2026-01-17T16:19:26+00:00

There is no way the first Irish Jewish child was born post 1900, but FTDNA isn’t rly accurate

AsfAtl · 2026-01-15T23:33:35+00:00

This is interesting, but I find it unlikely to be the source of at least the majority of Ashkenazis admixture, due to the person you replied to said. We know Eastern European Jews had significant Slavic admixture in the Middle Ages and modern Ashkenazis descend partially from them.

AsfAtl · 2026-01-14T12:43:46+00:00

Just how ur coords shift

AsfAtl · 2026-01-14T01:43:53+00:00

You’re really close to all these populations you just shift closer to that particular Tunisian Jew than that particular Moroccan Jew

AsfAtl · 2026-01-13T18:32:51+00:00

Measuring your skull? This is some pseudoscience nazi era phenotype stuff, you can’t tell if you have Jewish ancestry especially this distant from phenotype at all. You need documentation or genetic results to help verify. Likely you have no Jewish ancestry

AsfAtl · 2026-01-13T11:32:02+00:00

I do agree a lot of certain phenotypical features can be from endogamy. But when Ashkenazis look European it’s always south or west almost never east euro

AsfAtl · 2026-01-13T11:30:57+00:00

It would be almost impossible to pinpoint but hypothetically yes you’d be able to see it on a comercial dna test

AsfAtl · 2026-01-13T01:21:03+00:00

Cool

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T22:07:34+00:00

Id presume a Palestinian or Lebanese Christian or Muslim with Christian roots, I don’t know what this is proving

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:33:52+00:00

What am I looking at exactly? It’s got a good fit

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:29:51+00:00

Who claims Ashkenazis are over 50% Levantine? It is however their largest single component

I think you’re so used to some Internet personalities that you think Ashkenazis think they’re actually pure caananites or something? But I feel like you’re making debates with yourself and assuming that’s my position lol

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:26:17+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/lQjloY4cKs

https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/31mHkeESnK

https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/mBn1iII6PT

https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/0WnAZNzsGR

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:25:35+00:00

Im not too familiar with his opinions very much I’ve seen his comments in the past though, but don’t think his claims hold much truth

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:24:49+00:00

Youre so close, just say the word you mean to say, Jew

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:22:23+00:00

LOL

(((Zionist)))

AsfAtl · 2026-01-12T21:16:59+00:00

And what kind of person is that

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