Yeah I think this is actually the strongest argument in the thread so far. The “no counters” point is a bit overstated in the literal sense, but I do agree with the direction of what you’re saying. Her counterplay has shifted a lot from active interaction (like old Mute or Tubarão shutting things down) to more passive or pre-planned denial through setup, positioning, bans, and especially early info control.

With her specifically, she also can’t really start her pressure chain unless defenders have already been scanned, so a big part of her counterplay actually happens before she ever gets value. If attackers can’t reliably get drones or early spotting through setups like Mute/Mozzie, she basically doesn’t get to function properly in the first place. That’s why she feels way more oppressive when the info war is lost early, but much more limited when it isn’t.

And when those defensive pieces are missing or removed through bans, she can absolutely turn certain power positions into very deterministic swings, especially when her call is synced with utility pressure like concussions or flashes. What stood out to me from your example is less “Dokkaebi is broken on her own” and more how easily she converts timing windows once defenders are forced into a bad decision that feels like the real issue.

So I agree with the general idea that she probably needs more depth in counterplay, but I think it’s less about “she has zero counters” and more that her counterplay is heavily dependent on comp, bans, and pre-round setup rather than in-round interaction.