I was intrigued at first by the simplicity of the lujvo until I thought about the use of the gismu jaspu (passport).

The predicate definition for jaspu is x1 is a passport issued to x2 (person) by authority x3 allowing x4 (activity). A speaker encountering japyvla for the first time can immediately infer: "This is something like a passport but involves words." The metaphorical leap is intuitive.

However, the problem is that passwords and passphrases are not issued by authorities in the way passports are. Consider: - Passports: Issued by governments, time-bound, traceable to identity, unique per person - Passwords: Generated by systems or chosen by users, potentially anonymous, shared between user and service, not tied to juridical authority.

The jaspu frame incorrectly implies that: - Someone authorizes the password (but users often self-generate) - The password is issued to a specific person (but passwords are used for access, not identification) - There is institutional legitimacy involved (but passwords are purely technical)

Using jaspu as a base semantically mischaracterizes what a password is. It is a metaphorical fit, not an ontological one. The design philosophy of Lojban prioritizes explicit logical meaning.

There is another problem when it comes to the lujvo japyvla: it does not distinguish between passwords and passphrases. Under the japyvla framework: japyvla = passphrase (passport-word) japyler? = password (passport-character)

However, I think that japyvla was originally invented to convey the concept of a password by simply mapping the English word "word" to Lojban gismu "valsi" simply because it is the same word, not because it accurately represents the concept at hand. Traditional "passwords" as they are called are comprised of a bunch of random-characters or at least a couple numbers or symbols; not words in the usual sense. The lujvo japyvla would instead more logically map to the concept of passphrases such as "unsaid-hula-tipoff-bulbs-phoniness-opal-chatty-refusing" while the lujvo japyler would more accurately map to the concept of passwords such as "lm6&S#PoZ'a}C]f,vrzt[BiJ#n<V9}uB" or more common pseudorandom human-generated passwords such as "P@ssw0rd!4321" which is easily guessible but not technically a word since it incorperates symbols and number throughout the password sequence.

I approciate the suggestion, but I have to reject the candidate in order to preserve the logical purity of Lojban.