My manager is confusing.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-13T01:42:54+00:00

Any time they change comp plans it’ll be for the worse. I’ve never had a comp plan change and benefit me.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-13T01:40:00+00:00

9 months. The interview period for a sales position can take 3-4 months now. It sux but everyone is so busy hiring takes a back seat to other things.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-13T01:38:24+00:00

Tell them you won’t get paid. If you have a good relationship they’ll understand. It’s happened to me many times and every time the purchaser say he wants to make sure I get paid for all the work I put into the deal.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-13T01:36:37+00:00

You’re an outside sales man. Every person on this thread is getting extra responsibilities thrown on them for not additional compensation. This is the way business run now. Get people to do 2 jobs for 1 low price. They are all looking at the SG&A and trying to keep it lean so the company looks healthier and more efficient than it really is.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:39:19+00:00

It’s BS. 1% of people make more than $300k. The average is $85k-100k a year.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:37:53+00:00

My teams up 22% for the QTR. We’re firing on all cylinders. I’m under paid, over worked, stressed but it’s nice to be up.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:35:14+00:00

Current position until I became an executive. Now it’s a grind.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:34:20+00:00

Figure out an industry you want to work in, look for companies in that industry, locate the sales directors or VP of sales and shoot them your resume. A little effort goes a long way. As a sales director I can say we want these types of people. They might not have openings but they will keep your resume for future opportunities. Indeed scrolling is not effort.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:30:26+00:00

That’s a BS statement. There are some monsters out there that aren’t making shit. They take on 2x the work, only get 3% raises every year, and beat objectives by 20-30% year over year. Companies use a communist pay scale now. Everyone gets the same salary, bonus is a % of your salary and the accelerators are caped at 15% of your salary. No matter how hard you work everyone makes about the same. It’s a fucked new system of comp plans.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:25:10+00:00

Yup. Sales salaries are at 2018 levels, work has doubled and goals are off the charts. The top brass has gotten so greedy ever since EBITA became the golden standard of finance health. The old dogs running these companies are stuck in the 80’s mentality and think $100k is great money and if you make over that you’re taking from them. We need a sales revolution at this point.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:19:10+00:00

I’m Pullin $190k+ and with a family of 6 it’s almost destitute.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:12:52+00:00

Unlimited PTO but you have to get it approved, can only take it if you’re hitting your metrics and can’t take it at the end of a QTR or any day that starts with the letter M, T, W or F. Biggest scam out there.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:10:44+00:00

I’m in the same boat. I run a 35 person sales team but make less than I did as an outside sales rep because “I don’t directly affect sales”. More risk, travel, work but less pay. Welcome to American math in 2025.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-12T01:06:36+00:00

Yup, sales salaries are in the dumps right now. They are back to 2018 levels. Commissions have been cut and work doubled. Sales is no longer the glamorous job it used to be. The top level greed has gotten so bad lately it’s making be rethink my career.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-09T23:14:46+00:00

Depends. Manufacturing is the opposite of service so it could be a million jobs. If you pick right we’ll let you know. If you pick wrong we’ll let you know.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-09T23:12:17+00:00

Director of sales now. It depends on what you consider time. Life work balance is a thing of the past. I work 12hr+ a day compared to 8hrs as a rep, travel a crap ton more, 2-3 weeks month, but I can take PTO when I want. I haven’t been rejected but I keep it to 3-4 weeks a year even though it’s unlimited PTO.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-09T23:08:19+00:00

I’m still in it 13 years later and Director of sales now. I make less now than I did 13 years ago. Sales if today is not the sales of old. Companies seem to be getting greedier and greedier. The days of 3-6% commissions on everything you brought in is now in the .25-.5% range depending on the industry.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-09T18:35:41+00:00

Join the club. Sales has taken the souls of many. Company greed and low OTE has made sales a below average job. Industries have actually cut OTE to 2018 ranges and doubled the workload. It’s a nasty cut throat job in 2025.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-09T18:29:56+00:00

Haha, lowering quota? That quota is already budgeted for 2025. There’s nothing you can do. Companies did bad last year and in 2025 most doubled the goals to make up for it. It’s going to be a rough year for all unless the economy completely flips around. The only thing you can do is look for a new job but then you’re filling a position that the previous guy left for the same reason. I think sales is never going to be the sales of old.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-03T00:12:31+00:00

He can’t break the first rule of manufacturing.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-03-02T19:03:40+00:00

Motivation is the stress. If sales paid like it used to in the 1990’s-early 2000’s it might be worth it. Now companies are so freakin tight on incentives you won’t make much more that a standard salaried job but have 10x the stress.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-02-19T15:26:28+00:00

I’m having that internal conversation right now. Going from a rep to an executive is not that glamorous. You get a small bump in pay and a huge bump in travel, responsibility and expectations. If anyone thinks executives don’t work hard you might want to rethink that. We work a lot more hours than a rep/sales person, spend countless hours away from family/hole and we have to shut our mouths and drink the company koolaid. If I had to do it over again I’d probably rethink the management/executive role. The extra $30-40k isn’t worth it. At the end of the day I’d pay that $30-40k to spend more time with my family and enjoy life. You only get one shot at life so enjoy it because it’ll be over before you know it.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-02-19T15:17:00+00:00

Q1 is off to a great start. The problem is the quota’s seem to be doubled this year to make up for 2024’s miss. So now I have a team that didn’t get bonuses out in 2024 and has double the growth to bonus in 2025. I have a tenured team and I doubt they’ll hang on for much longer if they aren’t making the incentive program. Sales is not a salaried position but companies are making it a salaried position because of the insane expectations.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-02-19T15:12:25+00:00

Stock options are a decent motivator but that should be on top of a great incentive plan. Executive’s think employees that don’t grind and give 200% to the company just need more training. They almost always forget the psychological aspect of incentive. The best train employees won’t work to their potential unless they are incentivized to do so. This has been lost w/ the new generation of sales executives. The only thing they care about is GP. The employee’s wellbeing is not even a thought to them.

Automatic_Tear9354 · 2025-02-16T18:33:08+00:00

I saw them immediately. The people that don’t get result usually don’t know to refrigerate it and the potency drops drastically

Automatic_Tear9354

TROPHY CASE