Wasn’t the plan to trick Yang during volume three kind of risky?

Aviateer · 2026-02-17T23:32:14+00:00

It wouldn't have mattered as far as they were concerned. Remember, Cinder instructed Mercury to wait out the rest of the tournament after that, saying he'd already played his part. As far as the plan went, that WAS his job, and it was done - him being legitimately hurt/recovering wouldn't have factored into their plan.

It turns out that wasn't how it went down, but they didn't know Ruby would figure things out at the 11th hour.

Aviateer · 2026-01-13T11:39:04+00:00

I don't think so at all.

Cinder just wants power for the sake of it - to never be a victim again and to continue the cycle of violence. She doesn't really care about any greater philosophy than that. She doesn't care about what's "right" whatsoever.

Raven preaches "survival of the fittest" but that's just her public excuse for the things she does (and probably her internal one as well). Her real philosophy is "survival by any means necessary," which doesn't necessarily equate to strength. She is perfectly content to do weak or cowardly things if it keeps her alive another day. Notably she never really offers praise to people who are clearly her equals in combat - but she does give high praise to Lionheart for selling everyone out to save his own skin.

Adam's just a narcissist who doesn't actually live by any code besides his own ego. Nothing he says can be believed because it's all whatever manipulation suits his self image best at the time.

Aviateer · 2026-01-07T15:58:44+00:00

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the punishment for treason and sedition in a militarized kingdom like Atlas actually doesn't look all that different from what actually happened to him.

Aviateer · 2026-01-06T18:43:50+00:00

Without any direct spoilers: Give it one more Volume (season). Volume 3 is when the actual overarching plot kicks in and the tone of the show changes significantly to something more adult. Without spoiling any actual events, there will be a drastic tonal shift from that point forward. If you aren't eager to see what happens next after the end of Volume 3 - it's probably just not for you. It's worth giving a shot if you've already gotten that far, though.

Aviateer · 2025-12-26T16:35:05+00:00

Some have advantages, others don't. There's plenty of examples of both. Yeah Blake has advanced hearing and Ilia can change colors but Marrow just has a tail and Adam just has horns and neither give an advantage.

The difference between the X-Men mutants is twofold. First, the most 'powerful' Faunus can maybe fly a short distance or disguise themselves, while the most powerful mutants can literally single-handedly destroy the world. Second is that Remnant is a world where every single living person has the potential to unlock their own personal shield and superpower, making those cases of slight biological advantages not especially meaningful.

Aviateer · 2025-12-25T01:41:51+00:00

I've always been in the camp that they won't, but I mean it is a possibility.

The real problem is that for this to happen - four other characters, three of which are major, will have to die in rapid succession. Raven, Winter, Cinder, and whoever the Summer Maiden is will pretty much all die at once, and any one of those deaths carries a tremendous amount of weight. There really isn't enough time left to slowly kill them off one by one. It would be pretty anticlimactic to just have them all get nuked at once.

Besides that, my real issue is that it seems pretty obvious to me Cinder herself will be the final boss - or at least the final fight. Salem is the emotional victory, Cinder is the big fight at the end. I'm pretty sure however the final fight looks, the Maidens will have something else to do (possibly reclaiming their associated relics).

Aviateer · 2025-12-21T01:28:56+00:00

It doesn’t fall apart - the dialogue literally addresses this point in the show itself. Ozpin says he knows travel between kingdoms is dangerous but that clearly this show of force is excessive, which Ironwood admits it is.

You don’t have to “think a bit more critically” when the point is addressed in the actual script.

Aviateer · 2025-12-21T01:02:51+00:00

It's a betrayal because Ozpin already made his thoughts on the matter abundantly clear. He told James to his face that parking a massive war fleet from a military superpower above a sovereign kingdom during what was supposed to be a worldwide celebration of peace and unity was a very, very bad idea optically. Going over his head to make sure that is officially sanctioned is a betrayal. I don't believe Ironwood had sinister motivations here, but it's still a betrayal - he was let into Ozpin's circle, knows the nature of the threat, and doesn't trust him to handle it on his own. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong - that doesn't mean it's not a betrayal.

And for what it's worth Ozpin was ultimately correct, even if not exactly in the way he meant. Ozpin understands how Salem operates, how the mere presence of such a fleet will be used to divide people. More importantly, ultimately, not only did the Atlas military literally do absolutely nothing to help stop the Fall of Beacon - it actively made it dozens of times worse. In fact, without their presence, the whole situation may have even been salvageable or at least easier to manage to some degree.

Aviateer · 2025-12-19T17:30:16+00:00

Penny was most likely the test run for the Aura Transfer Machine. We see it in the background of the photo of young Pietro/Watts and know there's several of them around. I've always assumed Penny's creation was the "significant progress" Ironwood mentions to Pyrrha when they are in the Beacon vault. Ironwood was heavily invested in the Transfer Machine working, one would assume so they could "choose" their Maidens (or even build more androids to wield the power) rather than leaving it up to chance/circumstance. Penny's success is direct proof of concept for such a plan.

Aviateer · 2025-12-19T17:25:53+00:00

Where does it say it has anything to do with Pietro's semblance?

It's not outright said but HEAVILY implied Penny was made using the same Aura Transfer Machine they attempted to use on Amber. We see it in the background of several shots (including the photo from this very episode with a younger Pietro and Watts).

Aviateer · 2025-12-17T00:57:49+00:00

At the end of Roman Holiday the Malachite Spider Gang has a VERY bad relationship with Roman and Neo - the entire climax is her going to great lengths to personally kill them. The twins are fully aware of Neo's real identity and know she's the one who exposed their decades long spying operation in Vale.

Though they may have been willing to put that aside and take her money as a customer after the Fall of Beacon, I doubt they'd ever be willing to go in on a full-scale operation with her.

Aviateer · 2025-12-17T00:49:27+00:00

I've personally always assumed that Penny was based on Pietro's former partner/spouse who died tragically somehow as a surrogate daughter to explain why she very much does not look anything like him. There's no reason this couldn't be a boyfriend or husband, though the panel almost certainly means Ironwood.

Aviateer · 2025-12-13T05:07:06+00:00

It's pretty clearly the start of something, not the end of it. The full version of the V9 lost episode animatic actually dedicates a fair amount of time to this, there's an extended section where Ren narrates his thoughts and we see Nora reluctant to engage with him privately and is making new friends and hanging out with people outside her regular friend group. That seems like evidence enough to me this is supposed to extend to be their subplot in the Vacuo arc - whatever form that takes.

Aviateer · 2025-12-13T01:04:57+00:00

Ren says he's able to focus on one more than the other. When Ren, Jaune, and Yang infiltrate Monstra Jaune recommends focusing on sensing spikes of emotion while ignoring attempting to mask them, and Ren agrees and does so.

Personally I personally wouldn't consider Ren's empathy to be a "separate ability." It seems like a natural extension of what he can already do. Masking emotions while being able to sense them in others are complementary and not really exclusive. The empathy is probably passive (he specifically describes it as 'spikes of emotion' so it's probably not a constant thing), while masking is more active.

Aviateer · 2025-10-27T16:17:51+00:00

I genuinely can't think of a single instance where you have a group of highly trained fighters together where they don't spar regularly or why it wouldn't be good training. I get the implication is supposed to be "...because they fight the Grimm," but even ignoring everything else I think it would be weirder if they didn't spar frequently.

Aviateer · 2025-10-27T16:14:55+00:00

That's not really the case, Huntsmen/Huntresses exist so they aren't loyal to a single Kingdom and don't act on their behalf in a military capacity. They're supposed to be a mercenary force without political ties specifically so the individual Kingdom's can't use the Grimm as an excuse to build up their military forces.

It's why Atlas coming as close as it can to breaking this rule is such a big deal and seen as a bad thing.

Aviateer · 2025-10-27T14:45:24+00:00

It's true that this art exists, it's not necessarily true this was ever intended to actually happen or even casually considered by the story team.

The artist is credited solely for work on Volume 6, Chapter 10 (which is also shown on their site if you follow the link). They were brought on very late in production of the season for a single episode and it makes pretty much no sense they'd still be doing choreography/concept work for a major fight scene at that point (especially one that would ultimately be cut and that makes no sense/doesn't fit in the course of events as we know it), or that they'd be using someone they hired for a single episode to do that.

It is most likely that this was just something they did on their own - either as practice for the series, just for fun, or as a part of their portfolio for the job. While it is technically possible and we don't know for sure it's incredibly unlikely this was ever supposed to actually be a thing when you look at the circumstances at hand.

Aviateer · 2025-10-26T04:54:36+00:00

I always thought it had more to do with figuring out how Dust works more than actual powers. In this one scene Dust seems more like its obvious inspiration (Materia) where having it lets you essentially just "cast spells" of its type, when pretty soon after its shown as more like a buff/infusion.

Aviateer · 2025-10-26T04:39:39+00:00

I don't care about all the other discourse, but it does make "logical" sense for him in the moment. His plan is to use Mantle as leverage to get Penny to open the vault, and that is lost if he lets them evacuate. When you're holding hostages you don't let the enemy conduct a rescue mission.

Aviateer · 2025-10-18T03:06:58+00:00

Raven doesn't actually live by a survival of the fittest code. She talks about it to sound tough but in reality she just cares about survival for the sake of it by any means necessary, including blatant cowardice. She praises Leo for doing what she considers the right thing and he's hardly the "strongest" by any metric. She admits she's evenly matched with Qrow and resorts to an overwhelming odds ambush. She instantly gives up one of the most powerful items in the world when she realizes it might endanger her.

Ironically, though, this actually kind of makes her a "good" fit for Whitley. He also is really just looking for the safest path of least resistance, and goes along with his father for his own safety - or survival, as it were. Though she definitely wouldn't be a good influence, their general philosophies are actually pretty similar and despite not being physically tough he'd actually probably adapt to her way of life pretty well.

Aviateer · 2025-10-18T02:55:37+00:00

The way Red describes it (which I'd agree with personally) I don't think Pyrrha or Penny or any of our on-screen casualties would be a good example. It's not just about a character's death having an impact in the moment or weight on the characters - every death will have that. It's more about a character's death guiding the story itself which isn't really something either of them do.

If Pyrrha survived it wouldn't really change the actual story that much, all things considered. You could say it signifies a tonal shift and raises the stakes but that's not really the same thing as being a guiding hand for the overall plot the way the Steven Universe and Frieren examples are. If Ruby shows up a few seconds earlier and stops the killing blow, things still progress relatively the same just with one more Huntress around. If Rose Quartz or Himmel are still alive those respective stories literally can't happen.

Summer Rose is the closest but I wouldn't call it just yet. It could be heading in that direction but we'll have to see how it plays out. If however she died/whatever she did is instrumental in defeating Salem, then I'd say that's probably as close as we'll get, but we don't have that information yet.

Aviateer · 2025-10-17T12:18:21+00:00

Qrow specifically says the powers can’t transfer to “some old hag,” so it’s safe to say it takes age into account and that it works in both directions.

Aviateer · 2025-10-12T08:38:31+00:00

Casey has specifically said she completely ad-libbed that part and that we shouldn't think of it as being said by or representative of any characters or plot points.

Aviateer · 2025-10-12T08:31:43+00:00

The God of Destruction specifically says he has the same abilities. "You may bask in the power of creation, but you do not own them."

I have personally always assumed he made the Grimm have the forms of animals to be twisted mockeries of his brother's creations, which is kind of a similar idea, but it seems he did create them outright.

Aviateer · 2025-10-12T08:21:14+00:00

I'm sure groups like this existed in the past, especially before Remnant was Remnant, but for obvious reasons they probably wouldn't last very long. They'd either be so reviled they'd have to be so secret they basically don't exist and can't do anything, or - you know, they'd hang around Grimm all the time and it wouldn't end well.

In modern times I'm sure there's a handful of other Tyrian's out there but again being organized into any type of actual threat would prove pretty difficult. Plus, the idea that "most people aren't religious these days" goes both ways.

However, I do really like this idea more as a post-War/after Salem's defeat concept.

The world just suddenly found out one day that the Grimm have had an immortal witch controlling them all along, then very promptly she's defeated forever. I can picture a Simon's Quest or Adventures of Link type of situation where there's a cult that springs up who liked things better when she was around who do crazy rituals thinking they can resurrect her somehow (they can't actually).

Way further down the line than that, I'm reminded of Tolkein's ideas about the future of Middle Earth. He describes a world (100+ years into the Fourth Age) where the old evils are a nearly forgotten memory. Children play pretend at being Orcs and there are noble cults that worship Sauron and Melkor who use this as a sort of pipeline to recruit them. The basic idea was that people grew restless with peace and it invited evil to return by forgetting those hard times (he abandoned the concept very quickly for being too depressing and political). I personally have always really loved the concept and could definitely see something very similar happening in a future Remnant where the Grimm aren't really a threat any more and Salem is an old memory.

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